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PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES
March 11, 2024
Public Meeting
I. CALL TO ORDER:
On March 11, 2024, the regular meeting of the Public Access, Open Space, and Natural Resources
Preservation Commission (PONC)was called to order at 10:02 a.m. by Chr. Kelepolo,who welcomed
all in attendance and introduced the Commissioners of the Commission and PONC staff. Those that
were present constituted a quorum.
Present: Deborah Chang, CD-1
Alexandra "Alex" Kelepolo, Chairperson (CHR.) CD-2
Deborah J. Ward, Commissioner CD-5
Jodie Rosam, Vice Chair(V. CHR) CD-6
Justin Lee, Commissioner CD-7 (joined the meeting at 10:25 a.m.)
La Crivello, Commissioner CD-8
Kamuela Plunkett, Commissioner CD-9
Absent: Amedeo Markoff, Commissioner CD-4(excused)
Vacant: District 3
Support Staff: Jean Campbell, Deputy Corporation Counsel Representative (DCC)
Hamana Ventura, Property Manager and acting Commission Secretary,
Department of Finance
II. STATEMENT(S) FROM THE PUBLIC:
Chr. Kelepolo opened the floor for public testimony and explained that testimony may be made at the
beginning of the meeting or immediately preceding the agenda item being opened for deliberation by the
Commission.
JOHN REPLOGLE spoke in favor of Sugg. 24-08. He stated that the perception was that the parcel had
already been purchased however,that is not the case. The makai portion is an important piece according
to the public. Suggested that County move to condemn the makai portion.
There being no further testifiers, Chr. Kelepolo closed public testimony.
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III. NEW BUSINESS:
1. 2024 Suggestions: Review and interview the nominators.
Chr. Kelepolo requested to move Sugg. 24-02 after Sugg. 24-05 so that she would only have to
recuse herself once regarding Sugg. 24-02 and Sugg. 24-06.There was no opposition to this
request by the Commission.
Chr. Kelepolo asked if they could review Sugg. 24-10 out of order at the request of the
suggestor. There was no opposition to this request by the Commission.
(j) Sugg.24-10, Minuke Ole Corral Bull Pen,S. Kohala, Hawaii. TMK(3) 6-7-002:005
WENDY BOTELHO-CORTEZ, CEO of the Island of Hawai'i YMCA introduced herself and was
available to answer questions.
Cmr. Ward asked what was the urgency of the request as there is an existing 99 year lease.
Ms. Botelho-Cortez replied that although there may be no real urgency, they were
interested in being stewards of the land and having the land remain as part of the YMCA.
Current maintenance is provided through volunteers. Cmr. Plunkett noted that this parcel
does not fall within Waimea Trails.
Cmr. Chang asked for clarification regarding information that continued development has
impacted encroachments along the rock walls. Ms. Botelho-Cortez replied that the goal is to
maintain the boundaries for the approximately 8 acres.
PETE HENDRICKS, a volunteer of the Waimea Preservation Association provided additional
comments regarding the care of the property over the past 25 years.
(a) Sugg.24-01, Honalo Ahupua'a, N. Kona, Hawaii. TMK(3)7-9-005:008,009,039,&040
EDWARD RAPOZA and LORI MASON CURRAN were available to answer questions. Chr.
Kelepolo asked if the owner would consider a partial sale. Mr. Rapoza indicated that the
owner would be willing to assist with various potential options to purchase, and
understands the County appraisal process.The intent is not to list the property for sale.
Cmr. Chang asked about the number of fatalities and injuries reported at the "end of the
world." Mr. Rapoza replied that he was not aware of any recent events.
Cmr. Crivello asked about entities and partnerships as well as lineal descendants and
families from the area. Mr. Rapoza stated that he provided support letters and had begun
to reach out. He further stated that he would provide additional information as the process
develops.
Cmr. Plunkett asked about access easements. Mr. Rapoza stated that although
Kamehameha Schools has installed a gate across the road, the public may request access to
cross.The mauka parcel is bordered by the bypass,which provides public access, and Na Ala
Hele supports trail access in the area as well.
Cmr. Ward asked if the owner explored matching funds. Mr. Rapoza stated that the Trust
recently decided to sell the property in December of last year. Due to time constraints, the
focus was to assemble the application to PONC and then explore other partners such as
OHA and TPL.
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(c) Sugg.24-03, Kaloko Residential Park, N. Kona, Hawaii.TMK(3)7-3-009:028(por.)
JAMES AGENA and SIDNEY FUKE represented the owner and was present to answer
questions.
Chr. Kelepolo asked if the owner would be open to a Conservation Easement. Mr. Agena
replied that a fee simple sale is preferred but would consider a CE.
Cmr. Plunkett asked if the owner would consider putting the entire parcel into a CE to
preserve the native dry land forests. Will a high capacity develpment go in next to this and
defeat the intent of preserving this resource? He questioned what future protections will
ensure that future developments will not encroach on resources that are trying to be
protected. Mr.Agena replied that should this parcel go through the process, any future
developments would be subject to multi layered approvals. He noted that the owner has
carried the property for almost 10 years and paid more than $300,000 per year in taxes
without generating income. The owner is willing to be flexible; having the dryland forest
separated from present ownership and be taken over by stewardship that is more capable.
Cmr. Crivello asked if the AIS performed in 2008 was for a portion of the parcel. Mr. Fuke
replied that the AIS covered the entire parcel and that 11 sites were identified, of which 8
are found within the proposed submission. He proposed a potential hybrid situation that
combines a CE and fee simple purchase.
(d) Sugg.24-04, Kapalaoa, N. Kona, Hawaii. TMK: (3) 7-1-003:004,005,006,&011
LEHUA ALAPAI represented ohana who could not attend. She went on to state that Beth
Robinson, Chad Wiggins of Hui Aloha Kiholo,Aric Arakaki and Rick Gmirkin from Ala Kahakai
Trails and her ohana, started the process for the parcels and asked to schedule a future site
visit. Cmr. Crivello asked her to explain the relationship between 'Anaeho'omalu and
Kapalaoa and Ohana. Ms. Alapai stated that it is a "source of eha and sadness and grief and
burden that my Ohana has carried throughout the generations because we love this place so
much, and I've only really been able to go a handful of times to learn about the place.
So when we originally used to live on the coastline,we had to move Mauka to show that we
could be good paniolo when you're away, and to go to school and have jobs. So we had to
move off the coastline. And so,you know, for the generations, we've had this disconnect
between Mauka and Makai..."
She went on to share the very many stories that have been passed down about the
memories, fishing and the petroglyphs, iwi Kupuna, the trails,the houses, the hale out
there, the water sources, and lots of traditional practices that have not been passed on to
us, but that we're aware of. And so, it's a big deal.
Further background information pertaining to the Ahupua'a was shared. Commissioners
followed up with additional questions related to 'Anaeho'omalu Bay.
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(e) Sugg.24-05, Kawainui Makai,S. Hilo, Hawai'i.TMK(3) 2-7-011:001&(3)2-7-010:027
TAWN KEENEY spoke in support of Sugg. 24-05. He is the recently elected Chair of the
Hamakua Community Development Plan Action Committee and spoke of the property
features; that it was one of the very few pieces of property that was forested rather than
residential. He went on to speak of the very wide and extensive estuary and two waterfalls
that passes through the property, as far up as the old Mamalahoa Highway. He further went
on to share that he inquired about the property and found out that the owner recently
passed away, and that the property would be going up for sale. He and several others were
allowed to explore the property and now that it's listed on the market, there is a sense of
urgency.
ROBERT NISHIMOTO spoke in support of Sugg. 24-05. He is a resident of Ninole and a
Marine Biologist by trade, now retired from the State. His hope today is to impress upon
the Commission why the purchase of these two parcels is so important and stand as one of
the best estuaries he's seen in his life. It's a very critical habitat for all coastal fish and native
species, very rare. Hopefully the silos between County and State can be joined with this
purchase, as land is County and water is State. In closing, our mo'opuna will thank us for
this purchase.
KANOA WHITHINGTON spoke in support of Sugg. 24-05. He wanted to reiterate Bobby's
remarks about the difficulty of preserving resources that have cross-jurisdictional issues and
emphasize the significance of the property as a coastal resource. He also wanted to
reiterate some testimony from Ed Johnson,who couldn't be here today. Ed visited the site
first in 1985 which had public access, and today there is none.
PHAETHON KEENEY spoke in support of Sugg. 24-05. She praised all these great projects
here before the Commission today. This is her first time doing this, so wanted to clarify
some of the things that were left out from their nomination.The listing might not have been
active a week ago, and of course,just like the other nomination earlier,the mention of
private beach is repeated in that listing multiple times. She noted that these resources are
so critical to the community, and Ed Johnson's testimony actually notes that the sugar
company would keep trails to places like this open, because they did recognize the necessity
of use of the community to these critical places of fishing and subsistence, and how
important the waterways are.
She also clarified the trees on the parcel and that they did not have as much information on
the large forestry operation of 50 acres of African and Honduras Mahogany,Teak, and
Queensland Maple. They received from the builder this week, to put into the written
section detailed information about the planting in 2000, towards the planting, and the
number of trees.There's about 8,000 on the Hilo side for the parcel of those mixed trees,
and about 7,000 on the Hamakua side. In our nomination of the trees, Alex Woodberry of
Kamuela Hardwoods, mentioned that he would be willing to harvest and work with the
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County as he's done with different parcels around, in selectively harvesting, and managing,
and milling, and bringing to market valuable timber.
BLAKE MCNAUGHTON is the President of Makahanaloa Fishing Association, and Co-Chair of
the Fishing and Access Committee for the Pepe'ekeo Community Development Corporation.
He spoke in support of Sugg. 24-05 and is here representing community that couldn't be
here today and the fishers who use this site. The upper reaches of the stream, you can go
there at any time. They want to keep that generational connection.
Cmr. Ward asked if they've been in contact with the owner to let them know that this is
going to go on? If they are in support,would they be willing to pump the brakes on keeping
any further offers on it? It's listed as two separate properties.
Phaethon Keeney replied that she does know that the owners are not willing to pump the
brakes.They are interested in maximizing their profit on this property which is why they're
focused on highlighting its features to a larger market. They do want to sell both parcels
together.The previous owner has passed away and now it is all together. So far there has
been one expression of interest. Properties are listed for$8.25 million and the nearby Old
Mill was about that much in 2022 and would be a comparable property in the area.
Mr. McNaughton noted that the owner submitted a letter of support and is aware that they
nominated to PONC. This property has been on the market before and didn't sell, so they
will see what happens.
A discussion ensued between commissioners, Ms. Keeney and Mr. McNaughton.
Cmr. Chang disclosed that this property falls within her district and that she has been in
communication with the group that's been putting the nomination together, although not
really intimately working with them on it.
(b) Sugg.24-02,Joseph Rock Arboretum, N. Kona, Hawai'i.TMK(3)7-4-008:057
Chr. Kelepolo disclosed that she is the Vice President of Moku o Keawe Land Conservancy
(MOKU) and will be recusing herself from the discussion for Sugg. 24-02 and Sugg. 24-06 and
V. Chr. Rosam will take over the meeting.
DEBBIE HECHT is the President of MOKU and asked for support on behalf of Sugg. 24-02, a
37-acre parcel in Kailua-Kona that is owned by Jill Wagner which will be a public garden.Jill
has a degree from UH in environmental biology and her life's work is restoring native
Hawaiian ecosystems through seed banking and reforestation. She is committed to ensuring
the survival of these species in her work and sharing her knowledge with others. She has
been a consultant for decades, designing and restoring properties, and large-scale
restoration projects and has called Hawaii her home for over 30 years.
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JILL WAGNER, spoke in support of Sugg. 24-02 and how she acquired this beautiful property
with the plan to create an arboretum. Her intention is to create a garden that people can
come to visit and learn about Hawaii's dry forest. The major portion of the garden is
restoration of the dry forest. She hosts school children each month, and provide a learning
experience, including taxonomy, collecting seeds, planting native plants. She plans to build
a pavilion so groups can come and have a covered space which can also be used for events.
She is President of the Chamber Orchestra of Kona, a community orchestra of musicians
who play for the love of music and this could provide a venue where they can also rehearse.
Cmr. Ward asked if the additional 10 acres is excluded completely. Ms. Wagner replied yes.
Cmr. Ward asked if she could expand on that timber zone that's mentioned as it seems
other varieties of plants will be growing there as well. Jill replied that she's been part of the
Hawaiian forest industry for decades, and the timber zone is tropical arbor trees. There are
non-invasive trees, like Mahogany, in Hawaii which are very important for doing land-based
projects other than development. Her ultimate goal is for people to come and learn, and
these tree species are popular for timber in other places as well as Hawai'i. She added that
the dry forest is one of the most rarest eco-systems in the world;there's only less than 10%
in Hawai'i, and it's very important. The property has no irrigation, it's all natural, and in
three years, it's really thriving.
V. Chr. Rosam asked, I know you're committed to native forests and native plants in the
future, but I don't understand why in a group garden forest would you plant Australian and
South American cactuses. Ms. Wagner replied that the way she learns about botany and
taxonomy is very broad. She started the Hawai'i Island Seed Bank in 2008, and the seed
bank is housed at the Joseph Rock Arboretum. She trains people all over the world about
how to collect their native seeds in their region, and to help them to save their native seeds,
and part of that is really understanding and knowing about plants in many places in the
world, and really understanding the importance of ecosystems and regions all over the
world, and that's what our agreements do.
A discussion ensued between commissioners and Ms. Wagner.
Cmr. Crivello noticed that there's numerous support letters from the community but has she
done any outreach with any of the cultural descendants, practitioners in the area and
whether they are interested in providing input and being a part of the process. Ms. Wagner
replied that yes, she intends to do so and has been working with Kepa Maly who has
provided preliminary maps and background information along with support.
Cmr. Plunkett asked about public benefit for the conservation easement and succession,
stewardship goals in relation to a property that has private interests. He is asking this
question because in his previous experience working with properties that last over the
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course of multiple landowners, and agreements made during transition,the intent that was
originally made doesn't carry over. What do you foresee for the property with the
conservation easement and in keeping the vision. It's very common for gardens to be
started by private landowners with money and when they die,there are often houses on the
property where people can still live, but the large portion remains a public garden. There
need to be stipulations along with a stewardship plan in place.
Jill replied,yes that's right. The land conservancy will be monitoring the property annually
to ensure that the conservation values are being met as outlined in the easement, and that
the property can't be subdivided. These monitoring plans are super important.
Cmr. Plunkett noted that at least once a year, the property will be monitored by MOKU, and
if any significant changes are made, and County funds are used,the partners will be co-
holders. When would this be directed to the Planning Department? The permits, conditions
and stipulations,they default to inspectors who are not necessarily law enforcement. He's
bringing this up because does PONC have an enforcement arm, he doesn't believe that it
does.
(f) Sugg.24-06, Nani Kai Hoku Farm Agricultural Easement, N. Kohala, Hawaii.TMK(3)5-5-
008:069
JANET BRITT spoke in support of Sugg. 24-06 for Clarence Baber and Gail Byrne Baber's farm.
She thanked the Commission for all they've done to serve as a leader of visible hands. In
1936, President Franklin Roosevelt said, "The history of every nation is written in soil." She
has known Gail since she came to the island in 2012. Clarence and Gail care deeply for land,
and their legacy is to leave their land out here. As Clarence says, his goal is to add an inch of soil
every year.
She has worked in conservation for over 40 years and while her work was with land trusts on
the mainland with wildland ranchers who were also foraging farms, the importance of
conserving land for agricultural production has never been more critical now as prime
farmlands are being converted to residential development every day. The micro-
environments that regenerative farms build help to provide food security and resiliency as
critical components of land use, especially with climate change requiring ever-changing
carbon levels that can adapt to changes in rainfall, temperature, and natural cycle. As an
integrated small farm, Nani Kai Hoku farmers have decades of farming experience, and will
pass that on to the young farmers they mentor. I have already agreed to help draft required
easement documents, as well as provide annual monitoring reports to this commission.
LESLIE NUGENT spoke in support of Sugg. 24-06. She is a resident-inspired farmer and
continue to be involved in social service work that support and advocate for inclusiveness
and for farmers. She sits on the North Kohala Community Development and Agriculture
Group, and there are lots of conversations right now about the vision for the future of
agriculture.
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With this proposal,there's possibilities for public-private partnerships to support folks that
continue to grow food and build soil and care for land in a way that's regenerative. As we all
know, there's a lot of people, a lot of generations that feel hopeless about agriculture,
whether they're from farming families or not, but who want to continue Hawaii's agricultural
tradition, but it's difficult for them to continue to watch those parcels that have perhaps
been generationally sold off to the highest bidder. If were able to show that there's some
hope that the County is wanting to participate in preserving land, not only for open space,
but also for agriculture. In terms of my relationship with Gail and Clarence, I have a lot of
respect for them as farmers and producers, but also having worked in the nonprofit space
with Gail for years, and her work of working with many different projects in terms of
conservation, I have just a lot of respect and belief in their work that include the interest of
the community as a whole. This Nani Kai Hoku project has my heartfelt support.
DEBBIE HECHT spoke in support of Sugg. 24-06. She represents MOKU and their mission is to
protect the natural heritage of Hawai'i island and this project supports the health of our
people. They produce 13 certified organic products, which are distributed through a local
farmer's market in the North Kohala stores. Clarence has been working in agriculture for
40-plus years and has worked to provide organic food for our island families by establishing
the first CSA on the island in 1990, pioneering regenerative methods to increase soil health
and maximize food production. He co-founded the Hawaii Culinary Herb Association, Hawai'i
Hemp Council, Hawai'i Organic Farmers Association, and the Kohala Farmers Union. They
mentored young people on their previous Kona farm through the Kamehameha Hale o
Ho'oponopono Program for at risk youth.
This property will remain in active food production and, again, regenerative uses will
continue.The agricultural easement will protect endangered species, continue to create and
protect pollinator habitat and will prohibit the use of concentrated animal feed operations to
maintain the ecosystem and habitat for wildlife. We need to keep farmers farming. And this
farm could be a model agricultural farm, showcasing improving the soil health to maximize
the yields from this farm.
MEGAN LAMSON spoke in support of Sugg. 24-06. She is a marine biologist and owns a very
small family farm and have been helping in the last few years with organic farm certification
efforts. She noted that four of five board members for MOKU are here today. In addition to
the application that was submitted earlier, 10 days ago MOKU presented this application to
the Legacy Land Commission, and it scored very high and will provide 30%of the easement
funding for this parcel. Preliminary approval from the USDA for 50%of this funding was
received, so we have secured 85%of the funds needed for the Nani Kai Hoku agricultural
easement. However, PONC funds are absolutely needed and critical to ensure that this prime
agricultural land, these 20 acres, are protected in perpetuity. And a regenerative farm that's
producing 13 organic crops and protecting essential wildlife habitat and corridors and that
remains in a very experienced local farmer's hands, and now into the future is high priority.
At the Legacy Land Commission meeting, there were farmers and individuals in the
agricultural community from all over Hawai'i: Maui, Oahu, Kauai, and Hawai'i Island that all
gave emotional heartfelt testimony in support of the deep commitment that they've seen
from the landowners, Gail and Clarence Baber,that they have to agriculture,40-plus years.
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The folks from around Hawai'i spoke about the hours and hours of volunteer work that Gail
and Clarence Baber have done to support other farmers and launch statewide initiatives to
further agriculture. So it's not just these 20 acres where it's happening—these landowners,
from this North Kohala farm, are impacting the state, and that is worth supporting. And as
one testifier mentioned at that meeting, I'm going to quote, "They haven't just grown food,
they've helped to grow agriculture in Hawai'i."
And then second, a couple weeks ago,the USDA came out with a survey highlighting the
real loss and the dire need for food security. We've had over 80,000 acres of farmland lost,
and over 750 farms over the last five years. Agricultural easements can be an important
part of reversing this trend.
In addition,there is an urgent threat of development and urban sprawl in this area.The
general plan is looking at urban development and pushing the boundary within a few
hundred meters of this farm.
GAIL BYRNE BABER spoke in support and wanted to add that 77%of those farm losses per
the recent USDA Hawai'i farm census was on our island. And the reasons for that are varied,
of course, but she worked with the Kohala Center, I guess it was about eight years ago now,
looking specifically at these agricultural easements as a strategy for helping retaining
agricultural lands in farmers hands. It has been used very successfully in many other places. I
think we can address some of the concerns that are really important to address, probably a
little bit deeper on that, but they are absolutely successful in helping to retain farmers and
keep farms farming. I think it was in the PONC application. It's just a map on the right, shows
a bunch of dots around our farm and those are homes that have been built over the last 24
years, but they're not being used in any agriculture around our property, which is fine. I
mean, people buy homes and live on ag land for many reasons, but then the proposed urban
growth boundary will be about 90 feet from our farm, so there are pressures there for sure.
A discussion ensued between commission members and clarified details about the farm,
including that the easement is over the entire farm, the timing of the MRCS funding for the
farm, the impervious surface requirements of the MRCS (no more than 2%of the farm area),
the history of agricultural easements in the U.S. began in the 1970s to keep family farms
farming in the face of corporations buying up large tracts of farm land, clarification that 85%
of the funding is secured and PONC would provide 15%, who would hold the easement
(MOKU and County if PONC funding granted), the baseline and annual monitoring of the
farm that is required by MRCS, questions about the public benefit of ag easements (A:
primary benefit is in perpetuity protection of ag land that zoning can't provide, along with
protecting endangered species, pollinator habitat, regenerating soil, etc.), what happens if
the landowners sell or pass away (A: any future owner of the farm must abide by the
restrictions placed on it by the easement), questions about the maintenance fund being used
for a farm (A: applicant hadn't thought about that, but only those activities that are required
by the easement that are above and beyond farming such as protecting or enhancing
habitat, etc. should likely be eligible.), if gulches were part of easement, and need for
Commissioners to reflect on precedent of this application.
Lunch: 12:36 p.m.
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Reconvene: 1:15 p.m.
(g) Sugg.24-07, Kaohe 1-3, S. Kona, Hawai'i. TMK(3)8-7-009:005
CLIFF VICTORINE spoke in support of Sugg. 24-07 as a Kuleana landowner at the bottom of
Kona Paradise Subdivision adjacent to the property. He spoke of the history of the area
being a fishing village; and the continuous use of the King's trail and numerous fishing trails
by the public. Growing up, he was told to respect the land and the trails.
He mentioned that back in 2005, Mr. McKinley had an archaeological inventory survey done.
In the survey, his mother was also interviewed as to how great or what she remembered in
that area. Today, multiple lots in the area is for sale. Also, it's referred to in some of the
practices in the early 1980's as having access to a private beach, and everyone wants access.
The misconception is that these are private areas but it's community and for everyone to
use.
He asked to protect this property for education and so that people can remember their
heritage.
MELANIE SEYLER spoke in support of Sugg. 24-07 and resides in the Kona Paradise
Subdivision. She is new to this process and has been working with many community
members to bring forth this property. She apologized that Roy Santana and Lily Souza were
not able to be here today along with other members of their group due to community
obligations.
A discussion ensued between commissioners, Mr. Victorine and Ms. Seyler regarding the
names and contact information listed in the application and how it relates.
Cmr. Crivello asked if they can speak a little bit more towards urgency and the current
trends you see happening in South Kona. Ms. Seyler replied, that yes, the property is listed
and available for anyone to purchase so the urgency is there. She added that development
in South Kona is kind of tricky. You see a lot of land being built, and partially developed, so
to say. But you can see that there's plans. So possibly a lot of resort development, luxury
homes and private beaches, and that is going to be a huge impact on the South Kona
community that very much engages in a subsistence-based lifestyle.
Cmr. Plunkett asked Mr. Victorine if he could clarify a couple things. In the application, it
mentions the property was just listed in December, so the urgency is just in the fact that the
property was listed for sale, but what I wanted to clarify is you mentioned there were
multiple descendants for the acquisition of the property, but just due to timing and the
amount of time it's taken for people on it to just become aware of the property sale and
gather it in a short time frame sounds like a highly privatized area, and being listed for sale
could likely contribute to how privatized South Kona is. Also, with the timing of everything,
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you haven't quite had time to develop any strategies or have any conversations about
stewardship, but the main thing right now,the highest priority would be just protecting the
property, correct?
Mr.Victorine replied yes and that he is in contact with the owner, Dan McKinley and has
been keeping him involved in the process.
Cmr. Lee noted that it sounds like a beautiful property with a lot of cultural significance, but
in due time,will we be able to take more time to discuss these things in context with a little
bit more of an understanding of perhaps the property, but what you all envision this space
looking like should it be purchased through PONC and/or other funds. The urgency for
South Kona is the chance to preserve not only cultural but active watersheds.
Ms. Seyler replied that to be quite transparent,that's the biggest puka in this group,
especially seeing the types of presentations and the types of ideas that the other folks have
presented today.
(h) Sugg.24-08, Honu'apo, Ka'u Hawaii.TMK(3)9-5-014:060&029
V. Chr. Rosam recused herself as she is a member of the Board and left the meeting.
MEG LAMSON, a board member with Ka 'Ohana o Honu'apo spoke in support of Sugg. 24-
08. She along with V. Chr. Rosam and Co-Founder John Replogle who testified earlier are
also on the board. She spoke of the past history and current state of Honu'apo. They have
completed additional biological review for the wetland restoration project that has funded
millions of dollars for the area. She would like the County to secure the entire parcel, to
continue to allow for a recreational,food gathering, walking, swimming and fishing area for
the community. This is the second time that the property has been nominated to PONC.
Since a new 10-year Lease with the owner and County having first right to purchase has
been executed, a purchase now will save the County money, more than $700,000. Cmr.
Ward asked why Parks has not purchased this property. Ms. Lamson indicated that
although they have an existing MOA with Parks to protect natural resources, there has not
been any forward movement from Parks to acquire.
(i ) Sugg.24-09 Upolu Point, N. Kohala, Hawai'i. TMK(3) 5-5-007:002
TONI WHITHINGTON
CHAUNCEY WONG-YUEN
RICK GMIRKIN
CLARENCE AND GAIL PEREZ testified in support of Sugg. 24-09.
GAIL PEREZ spoke of the Kupuna Council, and mentioned the past and the future that was given to
them from a cultural practitioner and learned the importance in protection of Iwi Kupuna.
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Chauncey Wong-Yuen, the, Hawaii District Manager, for Airports for the State Department of
Transportation, stated that Upolu, is one of our treasured airports. It's not always open.,
He further spoke of his ancestral ties to the area and sang a song written about an area nearby
that was written by one of his ancestors.
Rick Gmirkin, for the Ala Kahakai National Historic Trail spoke about the significance of the
Upolu trail corridor, which is the beginning of the Ala Kahakai corridor, which extends from
Upolu and all the way through the Volcanoes National Park. Every place is special. But the name
of Upolu also demonstrates how special this parcel is in the Pacific. And how it's taking names
from other places and the connections that they have with other places.
Toni Whithington, appeared before the Commission as the spokesperson for the Nominators'
Kohala Groups.
Toni spoke of the cooperators and introduced Charlie Anderson, Adam Cownie and Roland
Messier.
Charlie Anderson shared that the owner is willing to sell this property. And it's amazing
because this property has been on the market for 20 years. And it's never sold.
Cmr. Ward: wondered if anyone has ever pursued the idea that the Department of
Transportation might be willing to contribute toward this.
Toni -Yes, we have.
We've also talked to Legacy Land and there's possible federal funding. We don't want to talk
about it yet, because we don't have secure information yet.
What we're doing here is to make sure that this property gets on your list.
Cmr. Crivello -Thank you. It does mention that the landowner has confirmed his willingness to
sell the project land, and that it will be listed for$3 million. If the appraisal price is more or less,
what would that look like as part of his willingness to sell?
Chares Andersen -The gentleman who owns the property has sold well over 3,000 acres of
property to the county, to the state, to a lot of agricultural associations. He's met budget
designs and sold below his value. He's not trying to get a good job, but he wants to do the right
thing. Yes, the owner is very familiar with the appraisal value.They have participated in many
sales of land to the county or to county funding over the years. I'm just so happy he's
cooperating.
Chr. Kelepolo -Thank you. That closes our business information, so we have a lot of work to do.
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2. Form Site Visit PInGs for the (10) 2024 Suggestions, select commission members, discuss
scope of the PInG, select deadline for the reports.
MOTION: Cmr. Crivello moved. V. Chr. Rosam seconded the motion.
A discussion ensued between commissioners to select commission members for each
suggestion.
Chr. Kelepolo read the Site Visit PlnG for each suggestion:
Sugg. 24-01, Honalo Ahupua'a —Cmr. Crivello, Cmr. Lee, V. Chr. Rosam, Cmr. Ward
Sugg. 24-02,Joseph Rock Arboretum —Cmr. Chang; Cmr. Ward
Sugg. 24-03, Kaloko Residential Park—Cmr. Crivello, V. Chr. Rosam, Cmr. Ward
Sugg. 24-04, Kapalaoa —Cmr. Chang, Cmr. Crivello, Chr. Kelepolo, Cmr. Plunkett
Sugg. 24-05, Kawainui Makai—Cmr. Chang, Cmr. Crivello, V. Chr. Rosam, Cmr. Ward; Alternate
—Cmr. Lee
Sugg. 24-06, Nani Kai Hoku Farm Agricultural Easement—Cmr. Chang, Cmr. Crivello, Cmr.
Plunkett, Cmr. Ward
Sugg. 24-07, Ka'ohe 1-3—Cmr. Crivello, Chr. Kelepolo,V. Chr. Rosam, Cmr. Ward; Alternate—
Cmr. Plunkett
Sugg. 24-08, Honuapo—Cmr. Lee
Sugg. 24-09, Upolu Point—Cmr. Chang, Cmr. Crivello, Cmr. Lee, Cmr. Plunkett; Alternate -Chr.
Kelepolo
Sugg. 24-10, Minuee Ole Corral Bull Pen —Chr. Kelepolo, Cmr. Plunkett; Alternate—Cmr. Lee
Cmr. Crivello amended the motion to include the members for each Site Visit PlnG as read by
Chr. Kelepolo. Seconded by V. Chr. Rosam.
Chr. Kelepolo asked for a roll-call vote on the motion to accept the Site Visit PlnG's for the
2024 Suggestions.
Ayes: Cmr. Chang, Cmr. Ward, V. Chr. Rosam, Chr. Kelepolo, Cmr. Lee, Cmr. Plunkett,
Cmr. Crivello
Excused: Cmr. Markoff
Vacancy: District 3
The motion passed, and the Site Visit PlnG's for the 2024 suggestions were accepted.
V. DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE REPORT:
Property Manager Hamana Ventura has nothing to report. Chr. Kelepolo asked if Finance could
provide an update at our next meeting of the stewardship grant awards. There was a very good
report provided at the November meeting, and questions continue to come up regarding this. Mr.
Ventura replied that he will need to defer this request for now as his priority has been making sure
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that commissioners and suggesters received all the information in a timely manner for this
meeting. Now that Ms. Braman is on board,they'll be able to provide a more accurate update for
stewardship.
IV. MINUTES: (Motion(s) required)
Minutes (draft) of November 13, 2023, regular meeting
MOTION: Cmr. Ward moved to approve the November 13, 2023, minutes as drafted. Cmr.
Plunkett seconded the motion. There being no corrections to the minutes, Chr. Kelepolo called
for a verbal vote, and all present voted, "Aye." The motion passed with 7 members voting "Aye,"
Cmr. Markoff being excused, and 1 vacancy.
VII. ANNOUNCEMENTS:
1.The next public meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 13,2024,at 10:00 a.m.—1:00 p.m. at
the Hilo County Building,25 Aupuni Street,Suite 1401, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
2. Suggested agenda items for the Monday, May 13, 2024 regular meeting.
a. PInG site visit Reports
b. Formation of PInG for the Stewardship Grant Pre-Review for 2025-2026
Vill. ADJOURNMENT(Motion required)
MOTION: V. Chr. Rosam moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Crivello
seconded the motion. Chr. Kelepolo called for a verbal vote, and all present voted, "Aye."The
motion passed, and the meeting adjourned at 3:16 p.m.
PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL
RESOURCES PRESERVATION COMMISSION
ALEX KELEPOLO, Chairperson
Approved: October 7, 2024
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