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County of Hawaii
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January 9, 2007 — 10:00 a.m.
Department of Liquor Control - Conference Room
101 Aupuni Street, Suite 230
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Commissioners Myles Y. Miyasato, Chair
present: Wayne T. Joseph, Vice Chair
Marilyn L. Nicholson, Commissioner
Patricia Provalenko, Commissioner
Barbara R. Stremski, Commissioner
Also present: Lincoln S. T. Ashida, Corporation Counsel
Diane A. Noda, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Mary E. Crosson, Secretary
1. CALL TO ORDER
The Chair called the meeting to order at 10:03 a.m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF DECEMBER 19, 2006, MEETING
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to approve the minutes of December 19, 2006.
Ms. Stremski seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
3. STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
No members of the public were present.
4. APPROVAL OF ADDENDUM AND /OR SUPPLEMENTAL AGENDA
There was no addendum or supplemental agenda.
5. CLARIFICATION BY DEPUTY CORPORATION COUNSEL DIANE A. NODA
REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION THAT "CORPORATION COUNSEL
IS TO PROVIDE /COORDINATE THE LEGAL, CONTRACTUAL, AND
PROCUREMENT TRAINING TO ALL NEW MANAGERS /SUPERVISORS,
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SPECIFIC TO THEIR DEPARTMENTS, WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF HIRE
DATE"
Ms. Noda explained that in reviewing the December 19, 2006, minutes and discussing the
meeting with Katherine Garson, she realized that she answered the question regarding whether
new departmental managers receive training on legal, contractual, and procurement issues
specific to their departments cold, without knowing what Barbara Bell had said about the issue.
However, after reviewing Ms. Bell's input, she realized what Ms. Bell was asking for and
wanted to clarify the Office of the Corporation Counsel's policy and procedure for the
Counseling and Drafting unit and the Litigation unit. The Office of the Corporation Counsel
does have goals and mandates, and the attorneys provide training constantly, whether through a
one -on -one session, by telephone on a specific issue, or more formally. The training is constant
and ongoing. Ms. Bell had felt that when a new director, deputy director, or administrator came
on board, there was no comprehensive program to train them. When she discussed the issue with
Ms. Garson, they came up with a suggestion for the recommendation, which is in Rough Draft 2
of the final report. Ms. Bell seemed to want training on specific needs and concerns, such as
how to get a design consultant. The Corporation Counsel does not provide training on all issues,
but could coordinate with the appropriate parties to provide the needed training. Since Mr.
Joseph had stated at the last meeting that he wanted a department to be in charge of the training,
she was suggesting that the recommendation be worded so that Corporation Counsel would be
primarily responsible to assist a department in training, but would not necessarily be the agency
to do the training, depending on what the needs were.
There being no comments or questions from the commissioners, the Chair moved to
agenda item 6.
6. DISCUSSION /ACTION BASED UPON DRAFT 2 OF FINAL REPORT AND ALL
RECOMMENDATIONS THEREIN AND REVISIONS THEREOF
The commissioners had no comments on the Table of Contents and continued to page 1.
Mr. Joseph said he was not trying to offend anyone, but asked why Dixie Kaetsu's name
was on the list of members /staff, as she never attended any of the meetings. Ms. Noda explained
that there is a requirement that the County's managing director be an ex officio member, which
means Ms. Kaetsu is a required member of the Commission but does not have voting rights. Mr.
Joseph said he would suggest her name be eliminated, as she briefly attended only the first
meeting.
The Chair asked what Ms. Kaetsu's function was. Ms. Noda said it was to provide input
and information.
Ms. Noda said that Section 5 -2.2 of the Charter states that the managing director shall be
an ex officio member of the Commission. In having Ms. Kaetsu's name there, it shows that the
Commission has fulfilled the Charter requirement for membership. This could prevent someone
questioning whether the Commission's body was properly constituted.
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Ms. Nicholson said the report may have more clout with Ms. Kaetsu's name there, even
though she did not participate.
(Corporation Counsel Lincoln S. T. Ashida entered the room)
Ms. Stremski said she had no problem with Ms. Kaetsu's name in the report.
Motion: Mr. Joseph moved to eliminate Dixie Kaetsu's name from page 1 of the final
report. There was no second to the motion.
The Chair asked Mr. Ashida if he wanted to speak.
Mr. Ashida said he wanted to personally thank all the commissioners for their service to
the County. They were asked to take on a responsibility within an eleven -month term, per the
Charter. Because they were time - driven, they really had to work hard. This is only the second
Cost of Government Commission, which was created in 2000, to be empaneled.
Mr. Ashida said the prior Commission was concerned about whether any of its
recommendations would be implemented by the County. He said he wanted to share that Mayor
Kim takes the Commission seriously. He wanted to personally assure the commissioners that
their report was not going to find its way to the back of somebody's filing cabinet. He said that
Mayor Kim charged him with assuring the commissioners that the recommendations would be
looked at seriously.
Mr. Ashida said part of his job is recruiting members for all the County boards and
commissions. He said if any of them were interested in serving on other boards or commissions,
to let him know. He thanked the commissioners again.
(Mr. Ashida left the meeting at 10:15 a.m.)
The Chair directed the commissioners to page 2 of Draft 2 of the final report.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept the suggested change for
Recommendation IA. Ms. Provalenko seconded the motion, and all commissioners present
voted aye.
Motion: Ms. Nicholson moved to reword the background /explanation for
Recommendation IA, where it said "there is no comprehensive program to train new department
heads to run their actual departments." She moved to reword it to say that "there is no
comprehensive program to train new department heads on regulations relevant to their
departments." Ms. Provalenko seconded the motion. There being no further discussion, all
commissioners present voted aye.
Ms. Nicholson pointed out that grammatically, the wording on page 2, for
Recommendation IB, under the background /explanation, should say "Though many departments
budget for" rather than "Though many departments are budgeted for." Mr. Joseph said that was
recommended and approved at the last meeting.
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The commissioners continued to page 3 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to clarify the wording for the background/
explanation for Recommendation ID, by adding the word "departmental" to the last sentence so
that it read: "However, an independent auditor could provide a more substantive and in -depth
review of the County's departmental efficiency." Mr. Joseph seconded the motion, and all
commissioners present voted aye.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept Recommendations II, III, and IV of
Draft 2, with the suggestion as presented for Recommendation IV. Mr. Joseph seconded the
motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 4 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept page 4 as presented. Ms. Provalenko
seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 5 of Draft 2.
Motion: Ms. Nicholson moved to delete the first sentence of the background /explanation
for Recommendation VI(F), as it did not seem relevant. Ms. Provalenko seconded the motion.
Discussion: Mr. Joseph said that the wording for this was reviewed and passed in Draft
1 and questioned whether they were allowed to revisit things that were already passed. Ms.
Nicholson said that was the purpose of having a draft. Mr. Joseph asked whether everything was
open for change. The Chair said he believed changes could only be for typos and regarding the
new suggested changes.
Ms. Nicholson asked if they could change things that were passed before, and Ms. Noda
said they could if they moved to reopen it.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to reopen the background /explanation for
Recommendation VI(F), to delete the first sentence for not being terribly relevant. Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion. Ms. Nicholson, Ms. Provalenko, Ms. Stremski, and the Chair
voted aye. Mr. Joseph abstained. The motion passed.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt the rest of page 5 of Draft 2 as
presented, and with the change just passed on Recommendation VI(F). Ms. Provalenko
seconded the motion. Ms. Nicholson, Ms. Provalenko, Ms. Stremski, and the Chair voted aye.
Mr. Joseph abstained. The motion passed.
The commissioners continued to page 6 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to reopen the background /explanation for
Recommendation VII(A)(1), to replace the word "organization" with "entity," since the subject
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could be an individual or a business. Ms. Stremski seconded the motion. Ms. Nicholson, Ms.
Stremski, Ms. Provalenko, and the Chair voted aye. Mr. Joseph abstained. The motion passed.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt the balance of page 6, with the change
as just voted upon for the background /explanation for Recommendation VII(A)(1). Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion. Ms. Nicholson, Ms. Provalenko, Ms. Stremski, and the Chair
voted aye. Mr. Joseph abstained. The motion passed.
The commissioners continued to page 7 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt all of page 7 as presented. Mr. Joseph
seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 8 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt all of page 8 as presented. Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 9 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt all of page 9 as presented. Mr. Joseph
seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 10 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt all of page 10 as presented. Mr.
Joseph seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 11 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt all of page 11 as presented. Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 12 of Draft 2.
Mr. Joseph asked for clarification on what the two options were about. Ms. Noda said
that if a recommendation was explained earlier in the report, Option 2 was a reference back to
that previous explanation.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Stremski moved to adopt Option 2 on page 12 of Draft 2. Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept page 12, using Option 2 for the
background /explanation for Recommendation XVII(C), as just voted upon. Ms. Stremski
seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 13 of Draft 2.
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Motion: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept page 13 as presented. Ms. Provalenko
seconded the motion.
Discussion: Mr. Joseph asked whether Recommendation XIX(A)(1) was reviewed
previously, and Ms. Nicholson said they had reworded it at the last meeting.
Vote: All commissioners present voted aye on the motion.
The commissioners continued to page 14 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Joseph moved to accept Option 2 on page 14, and Ms. Stremski
seconded the motion. All commissioners present voted aye.
Motion: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept the balance of page 14 as presented, using
Option 2 for the explanation of Recommendation XIX(B).
Ms. Noda asked to interject and pointed out that grammatically, for Recommendation
XX, they may wish to delete the semi -colon and change it to a period, and delete the word "and."
Motion: Ms. Nicholson moved to change the wording of Recommendation XX to reflect
a period after "2006," to delete the word "and," to capitalize the "a" in "after," and to use Option
2 for the explanation of Recommendation XIX(B). Ms. Provalenko seconded the motion.
Discussion: Mr. Joseph said that the wording regarding Jane Testa only stated that she
was present at the meeting, when it should include that she provided information at the meeting.
The others agreed. He suggested that instead of saying that Jane Testa was present, it should say
that she "provided information on Research and Development," and "was present for the
meeting" should be taken out.
Motion withdrawn: Ms. Nicholson moved to withdraw her original motion.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved, for page 14 of Draft 2, as follows:
- to accept Recommendation XIX(B) as worded and use Option 2 for the
explanation, with the correct page number inserted.
- under Research and Development, to word it that "Jane Testa, the department's
director, provided information on the Research and Development Department on
December 7, 2006. After reviewing and discussing the responses from Ms.
Testa, no recommendations were made."
- to accept the rest of the page as presented.
Mr. Joseph seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 15 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept page 15, using Option 2 for both
explanations and with the correct page number inserted. Ms. Stremski seconded the motion, and
all commissioners present voted aye.
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The commissioners continued to page 16 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt page 16 as presented. Mr. Joseph
seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 17 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt page 17 as presented. Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 18 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt page 18 as presented. Ms.
Provalenko seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The commissioners continued to page 19 of Draft 2.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to accept page 19 as presented, utilizing
Option 2 for both explanations and with the correct page number inserted. Mr. Joseph seconded
the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The review of Draft 2 of the final report being completed, the secretary brought up the
draft cover letter to the Mayor, which the commissioners had been sent. She said that Ms.
Garson had suggested changing the wording in the second paragraph to "Pursuant to Mayor
Kim's suggestion," rather than Mayor Kim's "request."
Motion and Vote: Ms. Nicholson moved to adopt the cover letter with the change in
paragraph 2, so that it read: "Pursuant to Mayor Kim's suggestion at the first meeting." Mr.
Joseph seconded the motion, and all commissioners present voted aye.
The Chair called for a recess.
A recess was taken from 10:55 a.m. to 11:03 a.m., at which time the Chair called the
meeting back to order.
7. STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
No members of the public were present.
8. CHAIR'S STATEMENT
Chair Myles Miyasato wished everyone a happy new year and thanked them for attending
the meetings. He stated his appreciation for their efforts at attending so they could have
quorums.
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