HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-07-14 Board of Ethics MinutesHAWAII COUNTY BOARD OF ETHICS
MINUTES – REGULAR SESSION'
Wednesday, July 14, 2010
10:03 a.m. – 12:23 p.m.
101 Aupuni Street, Suite 230
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Members and staff present: John E. K. Dill, Chair
Ann Lum, Vice Chair
Arne T. Henricks, Member
Renee N. C. Schoen, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Lorene M. Mizuba, Secretary for the Board
1. CALL TO ORDER
10:03 a.m. The Chair called the meeting to order.
2. STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
CHAIR: Okay, statements from the public on agenda items. Why don't we call Anne
Marsh Johnson to come provide testimony. We'd like to keep the statements from the
public on the agenda items in about three minutes, if we could. If you could just state
your name for the record.
MARSH - JOHNSON: My name is Anne Marsh- Johnson. I wanted to state that I believe
that the Hamakua Forest Reserve lands, the sale of them, is wrong. I've seen paperwork
that I held in my hand from the county when they were putting the items up for sale, and
it said Hamakua Forest Reserve over it, and I said what are you doing selling off
Hamakua Forest Reserve? That's for the people of Hawai `i. And I did , and I
found out Hamakua Forest Reserve is actually part of the Queen's Trust land and that it
goes way past Waimea. And this land has been sold off and sold off illegally. I brought a
couple items with me. I wanted to state real quickly and this is from the Bible. It says
God's word tells us thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife nor his manservant nor his maidservant nor his
ox nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's. When you covet something, you steal
it. The queen, when she was converted to Christianity, she did this. She listened to what
God's word told her. This is how she ruled her country, her nation. And what happened
was, this man came in. I don't want to listen to what the queen has to say. I don't want
to obey anyone that's obeying God. So he just decided to overthrow the Hawaiian
Kingdom, and that is Christian persecution. It's religious persecution. When her name
was stricken out of her trust, that's also religious persecution. This is not right. This
land was stolen. It was stolen from the Hawaiian people. Now regarding the Hamakua
Forest Reserve lands themselves, I've also done research on the lands, and they're-
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there are animals on this island that are nocturnal and they're endangered. These lands
should not be sold off. It makes these animals' reserve area smaller and smaller and
smaller. And they're already endangered. They're already greatly endangered. And
eventually we're going to have a wildlife crisis on our hands. I've seen evidence already
of that starting in certain places on the island, because there's too many people here.
And so we need to do something about that as well. We need to stop developing these
lands. We need to have the Hamakua Forest Reserve lands, these lands that are up for
sale, added to our forest reserve that's already in existence with the State, because that's
what it was meant to be. Before it became a state, it was a territory. The County of
Hawai `i hid those records from the State and never let them know that it was supposed to
be part of the State Forest Reserve lands. And that's basically what happened. I've seen
pictures of actually a picture of old Hawai `i, and the koa wood trees that once lived
behind and stood behind Waimea, the town of Waimea, them things were like larger than
the sequoia national redwoods. We're talking huge, massive trees. What kind of species
were in there? What lived in those trees? What existed? Now it's like a -- almost a
desert. It's becoming a desert with the cows. If you want a desert, that's what you do.
You cut the trees down, you bring the cows in, and voila, eventually you have a desert.
And people are saying I'm noticing changes here, I'm noticing changes here. Yeah, there
are changes being made here. But it's more than just the political changes, and it's more
than just the population increasing and stuff. I believe with all my heart- -I believe that
God's judgment is coming to this island because of all the things that are going on here.
This county needs to make it right. This state needs to make it right to the Hawaiian
people. Because if not, then the judgment of God's going to come. We say in God we
trust, right here on the coin. If we believe God, if we trust God, then we are to obey
what? This, His word. Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet anything that is thy
neighbor's. And that's what happened with the Hawaiian people. I rest my case.
CHAIR: Okay, thank you. Shelley Stephens? If you could state your name for the
record.
STEPHENS: Aloha, can you hear me okay?
CHAIR: Yup.
STEPHENS: My name is Shelley Stephens, S- T- E- P- H -E -N -S. I'm also calledMaka `ala
Nakoa. I was asked to file this petition from my `ohana. The original petition - -what
we 're stating is that the sale of the Hamakua land is unethical, and we cited that also it
would cause harm to a third party, which is part of the Ethics Code. And I listed in
number two specifically the sections that it would apply under the Ethics Code. What I
am contending is that I have this document here I'd like to circulate, if you could please
give it to them. And you can look at the front of it. It has to do with the Hamakua land
that shows that there was an altered document at the basis of the title. And we're
concerned that there's a discrepancy in the Title Guaranty report and that in general,
that the types of title, which Title Guaranty is providing the title search, they're providing
to the mayor, does put him in an unethical position. And I did type up in particular a
report stating that Title Guaranty- -that the County of Hawai `i has jurisdiction over Title
Guaranty, because they're paying them to do a job, and that they have to reflect on the
issue of this altered document, and that two police officers and one sheriff has seen the
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document and has stated that this is a criminal act. It is a title based on fraudulent
conveyance, and so that the County of Hawai `i has to make Title Guaranty actually go
back to the inception of title, and that they're not reflecting that in their title report to the
mayor, or to any of the county council members. The protection of the interest and the
survival of the kanaka - -we claim misrepresentation and illegal land transfer. It is
unlawful to sell stolen property. There's a probate law violation. No consideration for
the probate of Naukana and Keah `iheleikamoku (spelling uncertain) in Hamakua and the
interests of the 245 chiefs are mentioned in the title search. There 's an international law
violation that under UNESCO, relating to HRS 7 -1, there is a bill 2895 that was signed
into law by the governor on May of 2000 which prohibits the sale and transfer of cultural
property, which is allodial title, which is also mentioned in Title Guaranty's HRS 7 -5
corporate training packet. So even though they denied on camera dealing with allodial
title lands or having knowledge of this type of land, it's in their corporate training
packet, it's mentioned in HRS 7 -1, and it's actually part of the Bill 2895 that was signed
into law, which also would bind the county so far as non - transference of cultural
property. The title search is incomplete. We're stating thatyou do have time to make
Title Guaranty to do the proper search, but apparently they will not do the search
because they refuse to reflect on any political or historical anything political or
historical in the report. Now part of the reason we feel that may be is because William
Kenney, the founding father of Title Guaranty, is also the plena potentiary for the illegal
treaty of cession. So it's actually a conflict of interest for Title Guaranty to keep
presiding over any title search in Hawai `i. And so what we're saying is that herewith
Title Guaranty, it shows in their corporate training packet that they were formed in 1896
And you'll notice on the document of Queen Lili `uokalani, the altered document, her
name is crossed out and the date on it is 1896 And President Dole [sic] has signed his
name over it. Now I do have on the board a statement from President Cleveland
commanding Dole to restore the queen to her position, and Dole refused, and thereby the
overthrow in 1893. Then in 1896 they systematically took the queen's land, crossed out
the titles. And I need to remind you again that even the Consumer Protection Agency,
when referred to about this document, said that they would have to refer it to criminal
real estate investigation. So the county is basically in possession of stolen property,
forensically related to the overthrow. So how are you going to ethically deal with this
situation? The problem is, too, is that Title Guaranty still continues to deny the
knowledge of the altered document, even though it came from their files, and we have it
on record Ken of Department of Finance talking to Colleen Uahinui, who is the title
officer for Title Guaranty, and she simply turns her head and denies that that came from
her file, even though Ken of Department of Finance is stating that yes, it did come from
her file. They also refused to report on the time period from 1893 to 1896 when the
queen's name is crossed out. The title officer stated she does not have to red flag the
altered document for the mayor, thereby putting the mayor in an unethical position.
There's no report of a criminal act inside of their title report. Also, we are also stating
that it is abhorrent that on that title you also know that God's name is crossed out, along
with the queen's. So we're saying that under King Kamehameha III, that he placed all
the lands under the Kingdom of God, and the Hamakua land theft amounts not only to
stolen property of Queen Lili `uokalani, her heirs and successors, the native Hawaiian
Kanaka, and all of Hawaiian nationals, but is also stolen property of God, because the
Kanaka tie their religion to the land, and the land theft and displacement of Hawaiians
from their `diva is a form of religious persecution, genocide by removal of original
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inhabitants from their ancestral lands, and that also that these titles, they say they're
unbroken, straight to the county. These are broken and clouded titles. We're also
showing that inside of the title search, the actual original documents, that they show
lease on top of the documents. These are leases of government ahupua `a. There's also
Palapala Sila Nui, held in perpetuity for undivided interest that is not being considered.
And also the probate of Naukana has not been mentioned once in any response letter
from the Corporate Counsel. So under probate law, we have the probate law that for
furtherance of justice and regular execution of the law, that we're asking that the probate
of Naukana 463 be considered, which does have everything to do with the Hamakua land
titles, and to pay to pay Title Guaranty to show the chain of transfer since 1848 is in
itself a crime. There's too many discrepancies, no signatures, absence of stamps that are
commanded under kingdom law, and that you may not be aware of it, but in the federal
court, the federal judge was asked, what is the law of the land. The law of the land is
Hawaiian Kingdom law. So that in this reference, those properties under Papa Sila Nui,
Mahele, all of those titles are binding and still standing, and that even if in Title
Guaranty's title search that they're saying one person sold that, that person cannot sell
out the undivided interest of the unborn. That is not legal according to kingdom law.
The land is held in perpetuity. The leases are 999 years. So technically, also, we are
looking at if you are in possession of stolen property, what is the best thing to do in this
situation? And we're suggesting as a solution is to make sure to find a second opinion.
Do not rely on Title Guaranty, because as I mentioned they are in a conflict of interest
over this issue. And that we're asking that the Ethics Board look at the fact that it is
unethical to sell stolen property, and it is unethical for the mayor or anybody on
Resolution 216 who voted to sell the property. It is unethical to fraudulently convey this
property, even under the apology bill 103 -I50, which refers to this very property, stolen
property of Queen Lili `uokalani and the Hawaiian Kingdom.
CHAIR: Ms. Stephens?
STEPHENS: Yes.
CHAIR: Sorry to interrupt you. We have a whole stack of people who want to provide
statements on the agenda items
STEPHENS: - -Okay
CHAIR: - -and we do have your petition on our agenda, at which time we'd be happy to
get more information from you if needed
STEPHENS: - -Okay, thank you.
CHAIR: If you can just wrap it up, and then we can provide the others a chance.
STEPHENS: Okay. And then one last thing that I should comment on. I wanted to say,
in support of Anne Marsh and the preservation of the Hamakua Forest Reserve, and that
I have volunteered under county open space, and so that why should we not preserve this
Hamakua Forest Reserve under the issue of open space. And that one last comment is
that also, the county is bound to the conditions of statehood and the Statehood Admission
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Act, so that the county cannot act in any way that would cause the Kanaka, the Hawaiian,
to diminish. And so that illegal transfer and theft of Hawaiian land, forced removal of
original inhabitants from their land by the county is unethical, and they have inherited
these properties in lieu of tax payments and even the quitclaim that was done that
process was also an illegal process. So the county is in possession of stolen property and
needs to follow through as to what is the most ethical procedures and protocols that you
can, and that under federal monies coming into the county, it is a federal undertaking.
And so consultation with the native Hawaiians, also under Ordinance 08 -42, for a
certified local government, is crucial in this matter here. And I encourage you to work
with the Kanaka Maoli on this issue, and also Queen Lili `uokalani Trust and lineal and
collateral heirs of Lili `uokalani. Thank you.
CHAIR: Thank you. Up next, Albert Haa, Jr.
HAA: Good morning, my name is Albert Kahiwahiaokalani Haa, Jr. I'm kind of sad that
I have to come today and talk about ethics against a Hawaiian mayor who is family. I
hate to put down other Hawaiians in any way, but I'll try to make my thing brief. I feel
it's very unethical when I try to make appointments to contact the mayor with no results
or no response. My first time that I went into his office to see his secretary was at the
first Hdmdkua land meeting, and I think it's about the time when he went to the mainland
to see Obama get sworn in. However, I still feel it's very unethical, because my purpose
was to try and protect the county because the information that I have could be
detrimental to the state and the county, and I was looking at ways to remedy or
communicate with the mayor personally with my issue. However, it ends up where I'm
here today at the Ethics Board, complaining about ethics. I still would like to talk to the
mayor personally. I'm saddened that he's not here. My other complaint is, I keep talking
about probate 463 in every one of those county meetings, and when the Corporation
Counsel looks over everything, they do not even mention anything about my probate.
They don't mention anything about no king's signature, no king's stamp, queen's
signature 's crossed out. It appears to me that they are just supporting Title Guaranty,
whom I feel are criminals. And if the mayor is going to take his advice from criminals,
how more unethical can that be? It's very obvious when you look at the paperwork, the
numerous discrepancies on it. And they claim to have the title transfers from 1848, but
none of them show my tutu's signature or the king's stamp. They're all fraud documents.
They have board or commissioner's stamps on them. They don't even comply to volume
one of the Hawai `i state laws. So I feel it's a crime and that if the mayor's going to run
this county properly, he should look into it and make sure that he's not being misled by
corporate thieves. Also, I had an example, and this was given to me by Corporation
Counsel. It's in regards to property, personal property. What happened to mein 2009 is
my boat got stolen and we went through this whole thing. But what Corporation comes
out saying, after this theft report of my boat, it says it appears that the boat was
fraudulently transferred to bla- bla -bla, and generally the law is well settled that against
the true owner, all other claims are invalid. They give me this in regards to the old bust
up boat that I got stolen, but when it comes to my tutu's land and assets, Corp Counsel
completely ignores what I'm talking about. So what I'm saying is I think the mayor
should even check on his Corporation Counsel people, because they're just putting lies
over lies, covering up a theft that had happened years ago. But a theft is a theft. And I
just wanted to make things pono. I wanted to have this talk to the mayor, maybe he
could have a committee to go over what I'm talking about. But if you listen to any of
those meetings that I went to, all I been trying to do is submit myself to the government,
knowing what I know. And I'm trying to avoid chaos. I have not let all my family know
about the king's will. I kept it as mellow as I can, and I thought that if I could negotiate
with the mayor, with the councilmen, and we could work something out together
peacefully to avoid chaos. I'm still afraid. In a few more months, all of my family will
start hearing about the king's will, and what kind of reaction will that have? I'm not
lying, I'm not making up something, but I believe it is unethical for the mayor, for the
Corporation Counsel, to ignore what I'm trying to share. It's not easy for me to let out
my heart to the truth of my family, and I just hope you open your eyes and help save what
you have, because I don't want to see chaos. That's why I've been throwing myself to the
county, throwing myself to the ceded land cases, to let the proper people know that my
tutu's will exists and my family exists. And yet, they keep ignoring me. That's all have
to say for now, and I pray that what I'm saying don't fall on deaf ears. Thank you.
CHAIR: Thank you. William? I can't read can you say your last name? I can't read it
here.
KUAMO `O: Aloha, my name is William James Mitchell Kuamo `o, Sr. K- U- A- M -O -O.
My position here is the same as Albert's. When I went to that gathering by Corporate
Counsel, all my statements was totally ignored, not even entered on the documentation
made by the second -in- command of our county, corporate lawyer. My position was to
speak on land title. Today I'll speak it again. Three original land title was made by and
promulgated in 1845. Grants belongs to the 244 chiefs. Royal fee simple patent belongs
to all the royal lines, not to be sold. And the lease belongs to the chiefs, maka `ainana,
the common workers. I brought a book here, promulgated in 1845. Today it's called the
Hawai `i Revised Statute law. It's stated right here. This was made by our grandfather,
our great- great - great- grandfather. But because of what was happening in the past and
how we were treated by the Corporate Counsel, being ignored, grandpa being ignored
himself, this law book has never been used properly, like how the Corporate Counsel
used us just to get in there and speak our mind. Nothing was written to this. The only
thing they wrote was 1845, received in 1848, by our own tutu. And it said that he granted
that work. But nobody brought any paper up. As I said, today we only have three
immediate and only template. You are now working on, as Shelley said, fraudulent
documentation made after the fact. This book was never been used, was never legalized,
and was never owed by your own word. Grandpa had to readjust his movement and take
our family and hid them. Many of you went through this. You can even speak to your
own family. You ought to to them. Well, I guess you are. I hope you are. I
had faced the itself, many years back, but today is title. Royal fee simple
patent, page 102. Grants runs by chiefs, 97. And lease, 103. Today all you are holding
on is a fraud. None of the county ever looked at us. The second in command, the
lawyer I never respect anything he said over there. Thank you.
CHAIR: One quick question. You're referring to the meeting with Gerald Takase on
KUAMO `O: Correct
CHAIR: -- November 5, 2009? Okay, thank you.
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STEPHENS: Mr. Dill? We do have a copy of the communication I don't know if you
brought a copy of that
CHAIR: -I do. Yeah, I do. Thanks. Keonipaaloa Choy?
CHOY: Aloha. These lands in Hdmdkua that we're talking about today what
ahupua `as are they?
CHAIR: I don't know.
CHOY.- Do you know of the lands?
CHAIR: No.
CHOY: Are they Kapulena, or Koholalele?
CHAIR: I don't know.
FEMALE VOICE: All of them.
CHOY: All of them? Oh, okay. Well, there's different laws that apply to these different
lands. The Koholalele is Konahiki land. It belongs to the Konohiki in allodial, and the
families, the heirs, or the trustees of the will would have control over that. No one else.
The county has no control over any Konohiki land. As for government lands, which
would be Kapulena, which was returned from Lunalilo to the government as
commutation fees for the lands he kept, like Pepe `ekeo, Kea `au, Honu `apo, all belong to
Lunalilo and the trustees and the beneficiaries of that trust. Okay, for the government
lands that you're talking about, the minister of interior has charge of those. That would
be the lieutenant governor. On approval of the cabinet council, or the privy council and
the king, which would be the governor. Now that council would be all of the mayors,
which is the governors, the director of health, the chief of police, and the attorney
general. All of these people have a say in the disposition of government lands. They also
have a say in the disposition of crown lands. The king, which is the governor in this case,
has to go to the four mayors, the governor is there, and the attorney general and all these
people, and agree with everyone the disposition of these lands any sales, anything. You
guys have to start abiding by the laws. These are the laws of the trust. These are express
conditions precedent on the trust. These conditions flow with the land, just like the
conditions of agriculture. All the conditions flow with the land and you need to be
apprised of these things and follow these laws. All of these laws go with the Mahele
trust, the lands. This is all part of the Mahele trust, the Pukekakaupa `a [spelling
uncertain], 1848, that's when the lands were given out from the king when he divided out
his interest from the Konohikis. And from there the Konohikis gave up their one -third
portion of the lands to the government, which created the government lands. These
government lands are listed in the 1859 civil code. They're also listed in the Mahele
book. They're also listed in the index of awards. The indices is an alternate index that
1929 one, there's incorrectness and some inaccurate reporting and some numbers
missing and all kinds of things. This book one that brother was talking about, 1845,
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statute laws, book one. Okay, now, it was enacted. It was passed by the legislature,
enacted as law. Now book two here, this is the Statute Laws of Kamehameha IIL This is
the second book, volume two, 1847. Here, chapter 1, section 3, states that the measure of
all laws here is the Hawaiian constitution and the statute laws. It says, and the
proscriptions of the acts entitled, an act to organize an executive ministry, or an act
entitled to organize executive departments of this act of the civil code, the criminal code,
and the laws and ordinances and the decrees heretofore passed and enacted which have
not been repealed by constitutional authority and hereinafter to be enacted, shall be the
measure of all judgments and awards. So the conditions that go along with the land is in
book one, of the fisheries, of the lands, the disposition of lands, of government, list the
for volume one, chapter 4, article 5, of government property. Chapter 6, article 2,
disposition of government lands, and then volume 2, that's this other book here, chapter
1, section 3, the principles of the constitution and laws shall be the measure of all
J udgments. It also says in there that the judges shall have judicial notice of all vested and
acquired rights. That's the rights of the Kanaka. Koe nae o na kuleana o na knaka.
Subject to the rights of the native tenant. That's on everybody's title, the king's title, the
konohiki's title, and the government's title. All subject to the rights of the native tenant.
You cannot get away from that. That condition flows with the land. Also in here, besides
the acquired rights, it says that the circuit courts have no jurisdiction to review any
decision by the board or commission to quiet land titles. Those land titles, the LCAs, are
fixed. You cannot re- review, you cannot change them. That title is locked down, the
LCAs and the royal patents. That is the law. You cannot change or alter these things.
They're fixed. And those are the judgments to be of this land, the laws of the land.
Section 1492 of the 1859 Civil Code states the laws of the land, and these are the laws.
There are other books that you need to be apprised of to protect yourselves, because you
guys are way illegal right now. And pretty soon it's going to come down to it where you
need to be prosecuted for these thefts. I'll end this now. Thank you.
CHAIR: Okay, E. K. Mathews?
MATHEWS: Ke aloha kakou. My name is Elden Kalaninuiamamau [spelling uncertain]
Mathews. I'm here simply I couldn't put it any better than those who've spoken already
have. I figured it should be clear to you that there 's so many indications that are
contrary to what is happening. I think you need to really take stock of the fact that these
lands in question in Hamakua are not for sale. They're not to be sold. One being
government holding, the other being Konohiki land. Especially for the Konohiki land, I
speak on behalf of my family. I don't believe anyone has the right to take what my
personal rights and what I have inherited from me, or from my children, or my great -
grandchildren. These lands are not to be sold. The data that supports this you've heard
quite well from those who spoke before me. I can only say again, these lands cannot be
sold. And for the county to take the position that it's even questionable, I find
remarkable. Atone point I'm really surprised by the ill information either you all had
been fed, or your ignorance and pardon, I don't mean this as an insult. But I do believe
you need to make yourselves full aware of what the lands and the laws are. These laws
have been fixed. They're not for you to change, nor our mayor, nor anyone else. These
rights are ours. And personally, I think it absurd that any group of people would think to
take over what rightfully belongs to someone else. To define theft any other way it's
nearly impossible. And with that, that's really the only comment I have to make to you. I
hope that you do act ethically, much more ethically than the county and the State have
acted in the past. And I thank you for this time. Mahalo a nui loa.
CHAIN MarkMcNett?
McNETT.• Mr. Chair, this lady was here before me and or slipped after me,
so I would be happy to let her go ahead.
GOLDEN: You can go. . Thank you.
McNETT.• I'll try to speak up so it's picked up by the mic as well as the people able to
hear, regardless of their ability to hear or not hear, as the case may be. My name is
Mark McNett, a resident of Hilo. And as far as the Hamakua land sales, it at all
appearances was an ill - conceived, complete fiasco, not one bidder, although there was
great hope held out even on the last day. As someone from New York, it's really sort of
gathered that someone such as myself should keep his opinion to himself in capital -H
Hawaiian issues, which this is, but it's also your government issue, a county issue. And I
really was uninvolved, but watching the county council meetings on TV, and committee
meetings, I clearly remember the second testifier at this hearing, this gentleman, saying
he preferred to stay out of court and preferred to work with the mayor and the county
council. And from what we've heard, that really didn't happen. And the same thing with
the mayor. I mean, he's Hawaiian, you know we're very hesitant to venture opinions,
even though he is our mayor of Hawaiian [sic] county. Okay, I'll just since I'm really
not an expert on that, I'll move on to the item 2010 -05, the May Yh Hawai `i County
Council meeting. I'm relatively certain I was in attendance for at least part of the
meeting if not most of it, so I just came mainly because of that, to find out if I could pick
up any incident details just out of curiosity. And as far as the gifts to the council people
and others on their staff, and perhaps others, thank you for closely examining it as well
as you can. I mean, one would think that your resources are limited as far as
investigating unreported gifts, but I'll just say that I'm aware of the councilperson in
district 2, district S, 6, and 9 have received the comprehensive campaign public funding,
the pilot program where their entire campaigns are paid for out of the State Campaign
Spending Commission funds, and it's totaling around, with one non - incumbent, almost a
hundred thousand dollars at this point. There's some very strict constraints on that
program, so I you're probably already thinking along those lines as to what may or
may not be in order there, in regard to these gifts. And I found the State Campaign
Spending Commission to be great to work with, very easy, and they're very interested in
any irregularities that may happen with comprehensive campaign public funding. Now
as far as the proposed Ethics Code changes, there have been repeated attempts over the
years. They have some success, but it's my understanding they've been thwarted as far
as any penalty or fine being enacted that could be used. So thank you very much for
these several minutes, one and all.
CHAIR: Shirley?
GOLDEN: My name is Shirley Nalani Nihau Golden. I live the rest of my life and raised
in Hamakua coast of Pap `aikou. I know William Kuamoo, it's my family. I my mother
has land up in Pepe `ekeo. Her maiden name is Kahana, and I do have land atMaku `u. I
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refer that in the I'm hundred percent Hawaiian, and I'm very proud of it. And all these
things that going on now in the situation, and I hope that the bill of Akaka will be passed.
I read the paper, what's going on, and so it's to do with legislature. And I hope you do
pass, that us Hawaiian should have rights to be free with our `aina from our ancestor
back. I was raised in a way of respecting of the land, and all my life I'm not from
Keaukaha, but they think I'm from Keaukaha, but I have family from Keaukaha. I'm
back when the 72 generation of King Kamehameha the Great, ancestor, and very long
Hawaiian last name of my ancestors, which I found out cannot really be pronounced, of
my great- great- great -great ancestors. I believe that today I'm sitting here. I know
Shelley. I been running on the free bus that we have now that can bring people over that
cannot afford. That's how I know about being here today. This is my first time as being
here, and I been in lot of things like been to, like the Department of Hawaiian Home
Land. And I been like 22 places where people live in, and they would be in like, have to
be pre -owned kind of homes, have to be removed from their home and I have to buy it,
that I refuse to do so. I believe it's wrong for doing that to the people that already was
paying their land and cannot continue to pay their property and have to be move out onto
the streets to find another place. I refuse of a lot of things that was not right, you know,
`cause I already have an `aina, okay, that's in Maku `u. I pay for my land. I believe it's
one Hawaiian that the Hawaiians should not be paying for it, `cause it was belongs to
our king before then. Since we are one statehood, and we been a statehood from 1959,
and before that I know it was a territory. I believe in and stand for the rights of the
Hawaiian native, speak up for them, `cause I'm hundred percent. And then I have a lot of
family all over in the islands, and so many of them respect me and some don't. I
as a Hawaiian being put down, where I live, been called to have me arrested and things
like that. Not to have to be afraid of nothing, you know, and I was like don't want have
no trouble, things like that, where I'm staying now. `Cause I am with the kupunas. I
dance hula. I like to be with them about a year. And with most of them, it's all my
relative. They all retired. And I'm very proud to be with the seniors. So I hope that this
thing will be for them who have their land to be sold why they have to sell it. I read a
lot of things about, you know, what they try to do, but the governor is talking with the
mayor. I seen, I read, in the front page of the Tribune - Herald, about the land has been
for some kind of things and people rumors, you know, come into my
ears, telling me things. But I have to read. I don't know if the newspaper is true, okay.
It can be like they spending a lot of money going off and things like that, you know, the
mayor. I read about the mayor, going away, spending and things like that. I
don't know if people read the paper or watch the news, but it's what it's therefor.
They're very short of money, and then the state have to work three days without pay. I
really like a lot of things that happened like that. But native Hawaiian, we never
had all those kind of problem. So now is it because people is like greedy for money?
Wants money so as to sell the land. As what I look for, you know. As what I look at what
they doing now in life, in life now. Okay. And I say if they doesn't like too much like
spending too much, try to like budget or something like that, maybe we'll . And a
longtime I watched television on Discovery. They had this old money that they burned.
If they never burn all this old money, they could have used it, see? I know it's a true fact.
Everything is all true. Coming here, as my first time speaking here, to all the people here
and people that I know and people that I don't know and people who know me, you know,
I hope that the lands will be like, you know, like be used in a way that people really need
it. For one thing, we had homeless people. They have no place. Why don't the mayor
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build something for them, so they won't do all kind of like criminal kind of things?
Okay? Meaning, raising funds or something kind of thing, so then they can have a place
to go and stay and not get and be arrested on the streets or doing crimes. Bad crimes. I
see it myself. I live in the heart of town, now, and because of my children kind of thing,
, when to practice my hula and go and dance for the care home all over the
place Igo —and I love to do that with the kupunas, you know, and driving with them. So
I'm 62. I don't look like it. I'm a very happy person. I don't , `cause
when I die, I no can take nothing with me. Everybody cannot do that. It's by the power
of God, heals everything that He made. That's what I believe, okay? And I still going on
`cause they make me leave. I wake up this morning, and I say thank you, Lord, for the
day when my eye when open. I see today, and anything can happen tome. It's so with
everyone. So the land belongs to God. Everything belongs to Him, `cause he makes
everything. I'm very thankful for that, `cause I read my scriptures, I know what it say.
What we do on earth, in Revelation, is written on the Book of Life. It's found in
Revelation chapter 20, and if you read that, it shows you that, in St. James version. So
that's all I have to say. Praise the Lord, He bless all you here. We all make a good
agreement, you know, and I hope the bill, the bill Akaka, will be passed.
CHAIR: Thank you.
GOLDEN: For the Hawaiians.
CHAIR: Gene Tamashiro?
TAMASHIRO: Good morning.
CHAIR and L UM: Good morning.
TAMASHIRO: I'm Gene Tamashiro. My grandparents are from Okinawa. My family's
been here over a hundred years. I grew upon Oahu and got pretty tired of the rat race
that is enveloping the United States right now, so I completed the cycle and returned back
to the roots where my mom and dad were also born, hereon the Big Island. The ongoing
cognitive dissonance that is occurring for all of us is not something that you should
wrestle with just alone in your private time with your family or all by yourself in your bed
as you go to sleep. It is common knowledge right now that this land was stolen, that this
was a country that had 80 embassies all across the world. And it's very frustrating, as
you probably would know if you were sitting in our shoes, and maybe one day you will
be, to go time and time again to official hearings where people who are working for the
occupier's government are conducting themselves professionally yet, in my view, without
heart and without integrity. And irregardless of what you do and say amongst your
professional selves, I encourage you as a child of God, which we all are, to take it upon
yourself and ask your Creator what shall I do in this situation? I work for whether as a
volunteer or as a paid employee for a government that has, through no fault of your
own, taken land, taken culture, committed genocide, and continues to commit genocide
across the planet today. I'm not making this up. If you have intellectual honesty, you
know in your heart. It pains your heart, like it does all of us here. So I just want to ask
any of you to give us in the community some glimmer of hope, that there is some integrity
and courage. I know the system worldwide has been co -opted by ultimately international
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bankers that now rule the congress, have positioned puppet presidents and puppet state
governments to carry on this unbelievable crime. But the time for those people that love
God, for those people that have a sense that there is something greater than our job, than
our policy, something greater that's going to unite human beings and transcend us so we
don't keep going down the spiral of lies and destruction. We are your friends, we are
your family. We're all one family. We 're just looking for somebody in the government
capacity to say, you know what, I believe you. This is true. This is right. But it takes
courage, because the whole infrastructure is set up for lies. And I bless you all. You're
meant, as we all are meant we woke up this morning and God gave us anew day to
decide how we're going to live our life from now on. You have that golden opportunity.
We have that golden opportunity here, on the Big Island. Not so much chance on Oahu
anymore. But we have a real `ohana, several tribes but it is a community on this island,
regardless irregardless of race and color and ethnic cultural backgrounds. There is
aloha here, but we must take the steps small steps at first but give us a sign, for
Christ's sake, for God's sake, for Akua's sake. Give us a sign that you're hearing and
that you stand with us. Thank you.
CHAIR: Thankyou. Any other statements from the public before we move on? Thank
you all for taking the time
STEPHENS: - -Can I make one
CHAIR: Sure.
STEPHENS: My name is Shelley Stephens, Maka `ala Nakoa. I testified before. I'm the
adopted daughter of Arthur Mahi, Aka Mahi, who's related to Shirley Mahi here. He
apologizes for not being able to come here today, but he wanted to convey that he, too,
hopes that you will do the right thing, the ethical thing, and to look at the issue of the
Hawaiian, the Kanaka, and their survival and to work out something to where you
actually comply with the law, and that he's asking that you really look at the law and the
Ten Commandments and see where that falls for the mayor and even for the county
council members. My comment I wanted to make is for Emily Councilwoman Emily
Naeole that I personally, so far as this ethics petition, I am not charging her with
possession of stolen property, because she is a Hawaiian. It is more that she is being
charged with conduct related to apathy, that she has given up hope. And that also the
mayor, that I myself as an American citizen, I have to apologize to the mayor and to the
Hawaiians that they have become so westernized that they are even doing this crime to
themselves. And that is our fault. And as a United States citizen, that we must uphold
our trust and our responsibility and make sure that we do the moral, ethic thing for the
survival of the Kanaka, our host culture. Thank you. Aloha.
CHAIR: Okay, moving on to the agenda, approval of minutes.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the March 10, 2010, Regular Session.
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Ms. Lum questioned whether they could vote on approval of the March minutes, as two
members who had been on the Board at that time had since left the Board due to expiration of
their terms, and newest member Arne Henricks had not been at the March meeting.
Ms. Schoen said she had researched the matter and determined that unless there were
corrections to be made, the Board could approve the minutes. In addition, minutes requiring no
correction did not actually require a motion to approve them.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to accept and file the March 10, 2010, Regular
Session minutes. Mr. Henricks seconded the motion, and all members voted aye.
Minutes of the April 14, 2010, Regular Session.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to approve the minutes, Mr. Henricks seconded the
motion, and all members voted aye.
4. NEW BUSINESS
a. Counsel's Report Regarding Matters and /or Inquiries Received by the
Board, including:
1) Communication No. 2010 -052 regarding sale of Hamakua lands.
LUM: Okay, and that is a communication rather than an actual petition?
CHAIR: Right.
SCHOEN: Yes. We had this Board had earlier approved the procedure whereby
whenever we receive communications or inquiries by the Board, that we would have the
Board would do an initial review of the matter unless it was complied specifically with
the Hawai `i County Code and our rules. And so this morning what the Board is tasked to
do is to determine whether or not this Board has jurisdiction over the matter asserted in
the communication, whether or not this Board needs more information, or whether or not
it will not hear the matter and dismiss it.
CHAIR: Okay.
L UM: Well, I have found all of this extremely interesting and educational, and heart-
breaking at times. We as a Board are tasked to interpret our Code of Ethics, and the only
things that we are able to act on in our capacity not as human beings and not as
personal people, but as members of this Board are things that are in our Code. And it's
my thinking that the section referred to, Section 2 -85.1 about contracts this is not that
kind of contract, that that when it's 2 -85.1, it also includes the parts before it. And
these are contracts with it's my understanding they refer to contracts made by the
county that, for goods and services contracted with another officer in the county. And
this of course is the county is trying to contract, although it's still unsuccessfully, with
outside parties. I don't see where we have any authority to act. How about you?
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HENRICKS: I think the problem with this coming before us I'm not talking about the
land problem itself I'm talking about us, here, all right. What you've done is you've
come up before us and said, make a determination as to whether that land was stolen or
not, because we would have to make that determination before we could make this next
step, you see. The only problem is, we can't make a determination of whether the land
was stolen, because what we do is we're here because the county wrote a Code of
Ethics. Okay, you use the word ethics all the time in your petition and stuff, but you use
the broad sense of the word ethics. You're talking about morality in general, over the
whole population, over the whole world. We're talking about the Code of Ethics that was
given to us, that made us exist, and it's very, very narrow. It's very, very enumerated.
And it's not in there. So what I'm saying is we can't make a determination on we can't
resolve land issues here. We don't even have the ability to do that. It's almost like
asking us, here I sat on the bench previously it's almost like asking us here that I got
a robbery case, but you took it to a small claims court. We don't have the chance to even
listen to the robbery case because we don't have the ability to listen. And I think that's
all we're saying. We don't make a determination over right or wrong here, or whether
you're-
KUAMOO: - -I got one thing to say. We came hereto bring one issue hereon the
mayor. That's all we talking about.
HENRICKS: All right.
KUAMOO: We're not talking about lands, selling, or what you're talking about
HENRICKS: - -But her petition particularly says that we'd have to find the mayor
knowingly sold stolen land. And that would have to be working with the land being
stolen
KUAMOO: - -That is the reason why we brought this here.
HENRICKS: But we can't make that determination, whether the land is stolen or not
KUAMOO: - -Your attitude is full of shit
HENRICKS: - -I'm not saying it is or not. I'm not even getting that far --
CHAIR: --Hold on, hold on
HENRICKS: - -I'm just saying we can't make that determination.
CHAIR: Okay, hold on, hold on. First of all, let me make it clear that we all on this
Board are private citizens. We don't work for the mayor, we don't work for the county.
We volunteer our time and services because we have aloha for our community. We're all
very busy people but we want to make sure that we all live in a place that has integrity,
and we hope that we are part of a county that can be looked upon as being ethical. What
the vice chair stated was that we are strictly guided by the Hawai `i County Code of
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Ethics, which is passed out to each employee and elected officer. What we're reviewing
is a communication from Ms. Stephens regarding the sale of the Hamakua lands, okay,
and whether or not it violates the handbook and the Code of Ethics. In her letter to us,
we're trying to decide whether or not this petition falls under our jurisdiction. We ask in
our petition's application that the petitioner spell out the sections of that Code that they
feel are being violated. Ms. Stephens listed a few sections of this Code, the closest of
which I could find is Section 2 -81 ah, 2 -85.1, which talks about the county entering into
contracts and a third party being damaged by that entering into a contract. Okay, we
can there's no denying that there's definitely issues clouding this whole Hamakua land
deal, but we are we are tasked to enforce the Code alone. And that's what we're trying
to do. We're not saying any party is right or wrong here, we're just trying to see ifMs.
Stephens petition has merit under this Board's jurisdiction. That's all.
STEPHENS: Mr. Dill, is it possible for me to comment?
CHAIR: Yes, go ahead, Ms. Stephens.
STEPHENS: One of the main reasons that we filed the petition is because we were
actually told that we could have the mayor arrested. That certified copy that I passed
around we were instructed by the police to get a certified copy, and that anybody in
possession of this stolen property who sells it could actually be arrested. And the reason
that we have not done so is because we wanted to bring forth the ethical and unethical
issues surrounding this land sale, and that we're stating that if Title Guaranty is not
going to give you the proper title report it is a contract of an independent source, that is
true, but the money that is being paid and the contract between Resolution 216, the
Department of Finance, the mayor, and the deputy director, there is an agreement within
there concerning this Hamakua land sale. And because Title Guaranty has not been
made to give a proper title report, that's why you're having a hard time to decide right
now, is this actually stolen, because Title Guaranty has not put that in their report about
the altered document, that two police officers, one sheriff, and Consumer Protection
Agency, Criminal Investigative Branch, has said this is a criminal act. So we're asking
that the mayor act ethically. So inside of the Ethics Code, there is harm to a third party.
That is all the interest of Naukana. That is the native Hawaiian tenant. That is the third
party being harmed.
CHAIR: Okay, Ms. Stephens. Again, we cannot rule on criminal procedures and
proceedings. You said you had some kind of communication from police officers and a
sheriff, or something like that?
STEPHENS: Yes, there were two police officers that we showed that altered document to
before we had it certified. There was a miscellaneous police bulletin filed at the County
Council meeting, in front of all County Council members.
CHAIR: That was my next question. I thought that Title Guaranty had, and I think Corp
Counsel, had provided a report to the County Council regarding the title search on this?
STEPHENS: Yes, sir
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CHAIR: --And there were public hearings
STEPHENS: - -Yes, sir, and bless her heart, Brenda Ford did insist upon a meeting with
Title Guaranty, Corporate Counsel, and Na Ohana. And what pursued was that when we
actually showed her the document, we asked her, will you red flag this for the mayor, and
she turned her head and absolutely refused. And she still denies that that altered
document even came from her files, which is very suspicious. And we also have on file
that Title Guaranty was found after hours manipulating Mahele documents, according to
a DLNR, Peter Young, court case. So we actually have testimony that Title Guaranty has
been acting outside of the law and is not doing a proper title report.
CHAIR: Well, if there are if you guys feel that there are laws being violated, I strongly
suggest you take the approach from a criminal standpoint rather than somebody that
actually has jurisdiction and a little more teeth than we do.
STEPHENS: Well, is it possible, because of the issue of ethics I mean, even, as you've
seen on this altered document, God's name is crossed out. And so is it possible for the
Ethics Board to at least write some sort of letter of recommendation to avoid unethical
procedures within the county and the mayor, that they insist that there is a proper title
report that does reflect the inception of title and the criminal act? We're asking for the
truth in the matter, and we're asking that it reflect so that it doesn't reflect poorly on the
mayor, which it is right now because they're telling him the title is free and clear.
They're not even mentioning the criminal act. And as I mentioned, the two sheriffs the
one sheriff and two police officers all said it was a criminal act. Consumer Protection
Agency is basically saying they would have to refer it to their Criminal Investigative
Branch under real estate.
CHAIR: Do you have documentation for those comments
STEPHENS: - -Yes, I do. I have names of officers and the miscellaneous police bulletin
report.
CHAIR: That's why I'm saying, if you have that kind of evidence and those kind of
opinions from police officers and law enforcement agencies, then I think the best route to
go would be to pursue those.
STEPHENS: But my question is, is it possible--just hearing our testimony, so far as
hinging on unethical behavior and setting an unethical example to every citizen in the
County of Hawai `i -- that the Ethics Board actually make some sort of recommendation
that the mayor avoids an unethical sale of Hdmdkua land based on the fact that the title
officer, Colleen Uahinui, is not giving a proper title report? County of Hawai `i has
jurisdiction to make them give a proper report. Right now they're saying that they don't
have jurisdiction over Title Guaranty, but actually the county does have jurisdiction over
Title Guaranty they're paying them to do a job.
CHAIR: Well, to answer your question, we could provide an opinion. That's why we're
trying to decide if this petition falls under our jurisdiction. And it really doesn't look as if
it does. If it did, we could provide an opinion as if hold on, let me explain.
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STEPHENS: Okay.
CHAIR: We could provide an opinion that says that the mayor or the county is in
violation, or the people that you listed on your petition, council members and whatnot,
are in violation of the Ethics Code. But that and a buck will get you on the bus. That's
all it it stops there. Hearing testimony from everybody today, my impression is, again,
that there's a lot clouding this issue, number one. Number two, I do hold the opinion that
the county could be doing a much better effort in working with your group and holding
Title Guaranty responsible in providing a better product and a better report, a more
accurate report, to you guys. There's no doubt about that.
STEPHENS: And to the mayor.
CHAIR: However, that's my opinion. However, I don't see how it falls into a violation
of the Ethics Code.
STEPHENS: Can I ask you a question? What is the Ethics Code for? As far as I
understood, from reading as much as I could about every single document I could get my
hand about the ethics what does the term ethical behavior mean? I mean, so far as any
officers of the county, what does I just wanted to ask this question in the light of the law
and stolen property, and even the apology bill or Statehood Admission Act what is the
ethical
CHAIR: The Ethics Code is designed to regulate the standards of conduct for all
officers, employees, and elected officials of the county. And that's what this Board is set
up, is to enforce the County Code of Ethics that the County Council enacts and puts into
law.
STEPHENS: And the Code of Ethics and the standard of conduct means that basically
that they have to comply with the law, as we all are so far as what the police are saying
about stolen property. Title Guaranty, even though they're not reflecting it, we're stating
that there is unethical parameters existing within this Hamakua land sale. So where is it
that we're supposed to find relief so far as unethical behavior that's being ensued
through Title Guaranty, the county, the mayor, and members voting to sell the Hamakua
land, and even the fact that they held the Hamakua auction after we filed the petition. I
don't understand that, either. That auction should have never happened, because we had
a pending petition.
SCHOEN: Ms. Stephens, if I may interject. I think what the Board is saying is that upon
review of the documents you submitted and the arguments you've presented, that the
Board does not have jurisdiction over the claims that you're making, and that you may
find relief in another venue, but they are
MALE VOICE: -- You're passing the buck
SCHOEN: --But they're not in a position to provide you with legal advice as to where
you should go.
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STEPHENS: So you're saying the Ethics Board is commending the actions of Title
Guaranty and the mayor, that everything we've said today is that everything's fine,
everything's ethical, and that there is no violation of any standard of conduct by any
member of the county?
SCHOEN: What I think the Board is saying is that they do not have jurisdiction over the
claims that you are making
STEPHENS: - -Is there any
SCHOEN: - -and that has been presented and made clear, that we don't have
jurisdiction
STEPHENS: - -Is there any section within, of your knowledge about the Code of Ethics,
is there any section within there that I have missed that would actually apply to this issue
under standard of conduct?
SCHOEN: You would have to ask the Board that question, and they may or may not
answer that question. They're not here to answer your questions, they're here to review
whether or not there has been a violation and whether they have jurisdiction over your
petition.
STEPHENS: - -Well, basically that is a real question that I have to ask you. Is that
upon hearing our testimony, upon having knowledge, seeing the actual certified
document, the altered document criminal act, knowing what I'm telling you and other
people are telling you about Title Guaranty is there anything within the Ethics Code
that applies to this issue that we can find relief for ethical behavior in the county?
CHAIR: Like I said, it seems to me as if these documents that you have here, and all of
you are saying these are really criminal acts that you're accusing the county of partaking
of, okay if these lands are determined to be stolen property as you say, and the proper
documentation and the court rules these lands as stolen, and the county does continue to
go through the process of selling them, then I think that we'd be looking at a clear case of
ethical violations
STEPHENS: - -of ethical violations
CHAIR: - -But we're not at that point yet. That's why I'm encouraging you to pursue
more
STEPHENS: - -Well, we basically are at that point right now, because they did try to sell
it. And we could have had the mayor arrested right then, according to the police. So the
violation has already occurred.
UM But we are not in a position to make a legal decision as to these things that have
been discussed this morning
CHAIR: -- whether or not there are actually
L UM: - -There must be another side. I mean the county, different
STEPHENS: - -Well, it's the Title Guaranty
L UM: - -the County Council has determined that, so there's a couple of sides. But we
are not legal we have been tasked actually by the council, by the mayor and the council,
to interpret the behavior I've been trying to think about if some of this could fit into
what we're doing, but until the way I'm personally looking at it, until there's a legal
determination if these people are in the wrong I mean, all of your opinions are that all
this is in the wrong. They're still opinions to us.
STEPHENS: Okay, the fact remains is Title Guaranty has not given you the proper
report, and that's the key issue
LUM: --But they don't give it to us, they don't give it to us, the Board ofEthics.
STEPHENS: Right, right.
L UM.• We 're us is all, us is all of us, we 're all
CHAIR: --Ms. Stephens, we do as a Board, when we are petitioned, we do go out of our
way to try and find look at your point of view and find wherein the Code it would be a
violation. Obviously, we know the Code better than you do.
STEPHENS: Right.
CHAIR: And you listed down several sections in the Code, and the closest of which we
could find is that 2 -85.1, but it's still questionable whether or not it applies here.
LUM: And in that interpretation, where it's a
STEPHENS: --'Cause there are contracts
UM -- interests of parties who may be damaged, that third party is referring back to if
the contract is cancelled. That's my interpretation of this reading. So even that is I'm
not even sure this fits in under that. I just think you're way, way past as Arne said,
there is the overall whole ethics of the world, that greater ethics which you are talking
about, and then our little tiny board here that is interpreting this 5, 6, 7, 8 pages of the
Ethics Code.
STEPHENS: Well, is it
UM - -You can't, we can 't
TAMASHIRO: What are you so afraid of?
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LCM.• I'm not afraid of anything of that.
TAMASHIRO: Come on
CHAIR: --Hold on, hold on here, you're out of order, all right.
STEPHENS: Okay
UM - -Your accusations here --
TAMASHIRO: Can I speak with you?
LCM.• Wait a minute, wait. I'm the one being here.
CHAIR: No, not until we ask you something.
STEPHENS: Okay, one at a time.
L UM.• We can't do something that if I go to you and I say listen, would you I have no
idea what you do, but would you please do the engineering on my house? Well why, what
are you afraid of? You see, here's --
CHAIR: --Mr. Tamashiro, we'll ask you a question when we need you to speak, okay?
Hold on.
L UM.• We're tasked to do a job, the job here
TAMASHIRO: - -But you folks are serving the community
UM --We're trying really hard
TAMASHIRO: - -as you mentioned earlier, Mr. Dill. And if you want to serve the
community, you have to show us that you have the integrity to serve the community.
CHAIR: Okay, we also have rules
TAMASHIRO: - -Why don't we work together?
CHAIR: Okay, can you sit down, please?
TAMASHIRO: No, why don'tyou answer my question?
CHAIR: And if you can't sit down, can you leave then, please?
STEPHENS: Okay.
TAMASHIRO: And that's serving the community, Mr. Dill?
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DILL: No, it's being respectful to this Board. We're trying to get a job done --
TAMASHIRO: --Being respectful
DILL: - -You know, you can't even let me finish a bloody sentence. Can you leave,
please?
STEPHENS: Okay, okay.
DILL: Thank you.
TAMASHIRO: What's wrong? Finish your sentence.
DILL: Can you leave, please? I finished it.
TAMASHIRO: No, I'm going to sit.
STEPHENS: Okay, he'll be fine.
HENRICKS: I think if it's going to get contentious I think we have to cut it off, that's
all
CHAIR: Yeah, you know I mean, we're all adults here. Why don't we act like adults?
We have --
STEPHENS: - -Okay
CHAIR: --Hold on, Arne
STEPHENS: - -Yeah, we want to make sure we come to some sort of solution or remedy
or something positive
L UM• - -I move that we have a five- minute recess.
CHAIR: Okay.
STEPHENS: Okay.
LCM• Bathroom break.
CHAIR: I'll second that.
LCM• All in favor, aye.
CHAIR: Thank you.
STEPHENS: Okay, thank you.
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The Board recessed from 11:23 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.
CHAIR: Okay, I'd like to call this meeting back into order from the recess and just
remind everybody to please speak when addressed by the Board and not out of turn.
Again, we're discussing Communication 2010 -052 regarding sale of Hdmdkua lands.
UM Okay, I have a motion. We've had a lot of discussion on this. I'm ready to make
a motion. I move that we accept and file Communication No. 2010 -052 regarding sale of
Hdmdkua lands because wait a minute. I move we accept and file this communication
without action, as we do not have jurisdiction.
HENRICKS: I second the motion.
CHAIR: Okay, all in favor?
L UM: Aye.
HENRICKS, and CHAIR (simultaneously): Aye.
CHAIR: Ms. Stephens, I want to thank you for submitting this and bringing this to our
attention, and I really sincerely hope that you find some recourse in this and success in
the title search and getting clarification on it.
STEPHENS: And I just wanted to ask one last question. Is it possible for you to write a
letter recommending to the mayor that they make Title Guaranty reflect the criminal act
of the altered document?
CHAIR: We can't make them do anything, unfortunately.
STEPHENS: But I mean, is it possible to just write a letter of recommendation to avoid
further unethical behavior by the county?
CHAIR: No, but we can send them the minutes and the testimony from today, and I think
it's pretty much made clear
STEPHENS: - -Yes
CHAIR: - -that that's what's
STEPHENS: -- That's what needs to happen. And I have informed the Corporate
Counsel concerning Title Guaranty's inadequate report and the criminal acts, so thank
you very much.
CHAIR: Okay, thank you, Ms. Stephens.
L UM.• Thank you all.
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CHAIR: Moving on to Communication No. 2010 -053 dated May 26, 2010, regarding
officer or employee behavior at County Council meeting held on May 5, 2010.
2) Communication No. 2010 -053 dated May 26, 2010, regarding officer
or employee behavior at County Council meeting held on May 5,
2010.
Ms. Schoen explained that her office had received the communication via email on May
26, 2010. She had responded to the sender via email about filing a formal petition and providing
contact information so she could follow up. The sender never responded to her. She therefore
was presenting the communication to the Board for further instruction /action.
The Chair said that since it was addressed to him and the other members, he would
recommend that as Chair he respond to the sender and suggest the proper protocol in filing a
formal petition. If there was no response, they could just accept and file away his
communication.
Ms. Schoen stated that since the Board's practice was to not publicize the names of
petitioners and respondents until an open meeting, and since they did not know whether the
sender wanted an open or closed meeting, she suggested the names of the sender and officer
involved remain confidential until the Board decides further. The Board agreed.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to accept and file Communication No. 2010 -053,
Mr. Henricks seconded the motion, and all members voted aye.
b. Review of Gifts Disclosure Statements.
The Board reviewed the nine disclosure statements listed on the agenda. Ms. Schoen
reminded them that the Code requires any gifts valued singly or in the aggregate in excess of
$100 to be reported.
Motion and vote: Mr. Henricks moved to accept and file the disclosures, Ms. Lum
seconded the motion, and all members voted aye.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Counsel's report on the status of proposed changes to the Ethics Code.
Ms. Schoen reported that the Mayor's proposed amendments have not been agendized yet
before the full Council. She would report back when that happened. Nothing has happened
since the last meeting, probably because of all the budget matters.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to go into Executive Session to review the Executive
Session minutes and confidential financial disclosures. Mr. Henricks seconded the motion, and
all members voted aye.
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The members of the public still in attendance were asked to leave until Regular Session
resumed.
The Board left Regular Session to enter into Executive Session at 11:50 a.m.
The Board returned to Regular Session at 12:18 p.m.
6. VOTING ON EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTERS
a. Approval of the minutes of the March 10, 2010, Executive Session.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to accept and file the minutes, Mr. Henricks
seconded the motion, and all members voted aye.
b. Approval of the minutes of the April 14, 2010, Executive Session.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to accept and file the minutes, Mr. Henricks
seconded the motion, and all members voted aye.
C. Review of Confidential Financial Disclosure Forms filed pursuant to Section
2- 91.1(d), Hawaii County Code, by County board and commission members
and designated County employees, where personal matters will be reviewed.
The Chair stated that after reviewing the confidential disclosures, the Board had found all
acceptable except for Nos. 6, 20, 23, 28, and 42.
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to accept and file all the other disclosures. Mr.
Henricks seconded the motion, and all members voted aye.
The Chair stated that for the record, Shelly Stephens handed to him, right after they left
Regular Session, a document entitled "Hamakua Ethics Petition filed by Na Ohana" and asked
that it be added to the records on her petition.
Ms. Lum stated for the record that they had been handed documents on the status of
financial disclosures required to be submitted, which had been item d for discussion on their
Executive Session agenda. These documents would need to be reviewed at their next meeting.
7. ANNOUNCEMENTS
The Chair announced that the next meeting was scheduled for August 11, 2010, at 10:00
a.m. at the Hilo Lagoon Centre's Conference Room in Suite 145.
Ms. Schoen announced that two people had been nominated to serve on the Board, and
they should be appearing before Council within the next few weeks.
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8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion and vote: Ms. Lum moved to adjourn, Mr. Henricks seconded the motion, and
all members present voted aye.
The meeting adjourned at 12:23 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
1rlery saoo, saae�r
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