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HAWAII COUNTY BOARD OF ETHICS <br />MINUTES — REGULAR SESSION' <br />Wednesday, November 10, 2010 <br />10:02 a.m. to 10:53 a.m. <br />101 Aupuni Street, Suite 230 <br />(Department of Liquor Control Conference Room) <br />Hilo, Hawaii 96720 <br />Members and staff present: John E. K. Dill, Chair <br />Ann Lum, Vice Chair <br />Arne T. Henricks, Member <br />Bernard Balsis, Jr., Member <br />David Heaukulani, Member <br />Renee N. C. Schoen, Deputy Corporation Counsel <br />Mary E. Crosson, Secretary for the Board <br />1. CALL TO ORDER <br />The Chair called the meeting to order. <br />2. STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS <br />The Chair called up attorney Brian DeLima, who had signed up to testify regarding <br />agenda item 5a. <br />CHAIR: Go Ahead, Mr. DeLima. <br />DeLIMA: I'm here also for that Sa, which is the Board of Ethics proposal. I've <br />previously provided written testimony to this Board on that Bill 230, and I've also <br />testified in front of the council. My position is the same. There is ethics provisions that <br />already prohibit self - dealing, and it also prohibits any conflicts of interest. And I think <br />the real question is what is Bill 30 [sic] in terms of the provisions that I've spoken about, <br />in terms of prohibiting county employees from that have a controlling interest from <br />contracting with the county. What is it intending to do? And the Board of Ethics <br />proposed some amendments. We really didn't have any quarrel with the amendments <br />that the Board of Ethics proposed. What we did was have a quarrel with Bill 230 as it <br />was originally proposed. I think the unintended consequences is that it prohibits <br />employees who may be independent contractors or who receive stipends and <br />contributions to county employees from being able to do things such as swimming lessons <br />or ukulele lessons or hula lessons. The special duty police officers are all independent <br />contractors. The county actually makes money from contracting out special duty police <br />officers. The checks from the companies do not go to the county but actually go to the <br />individual independent contractor police officers. That maybe prohibited under the <br />' Minutes in italics are verbatim. Blanks indicate inaudible or indecipherable speech. <br />