HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-10-12 Public Access, Open Space and Natural Resources Preservation Commission MinutesHAWAII COUNTY PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE AND NATURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES - REGULAR SESSION
October 12, 2009
Department of Liquor Control Conference Room
101 Aupuni Street, Suite 230
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Present: Chair Kim Garcia
Vice -Chair Hannah Springer
Commissioner Steven Hirakami
Commissioner E. Kalani Flores
Commissioner Larry Komata
Commissioner Terri Markovich (left at 2:13 p.m.)
Commissioner Sarah Moon
Absent: Commissioner Bill Gilmartin
Others Present: Amy Self, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Ken Van Bergen, Property Manager, Finance
Alexandra Kelepolo, Clerk III, Finance
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chair Kim Garcia at 10:01 a.m.
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ms. Springer asked if the Commission could defer approval of the minutes to the next meeting.
Ms. Garcia told the commissioners to take a few minutes to review the draft so they could
approve it today.
Recess: 10:04 a.m.
Reconvened: 10:07 a.m.
Mr. Komata noted that on Page 5 of the draft minutes, shouldn't the properties that were
approved by Council be removed from the 2009 Prioritized List. Mr. Flores commented that this
can be discussed later on the agenda under new business.
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Mr. Flores also mentioned that Communication No. 09 -018 that was to be deferred to this
meeting was not on the agenda. Ms. Garcia noted that they will have this item put back on the
agenda since Ms. Self is now present.
Motion: Vice -Chair Springer moved for the approval of the minutes of September 14,
2009. Seconded by Commissioner Markovich; all members voted aye, motion carried.
DEMONSTRATION BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT
(Mr. Larry Brown of the Planning Department (PD) provided a handout to the Commission for
shoreline public access) He apologized that due to technical difficulties he's not able to load the
visual presentation; however he did give the Commission a brief description of the program.
Ms. Markovich asked if there's any signage for these accesses. Mr. Brown replied that
in doing the update, they realized that there's no public access program, and noted that the
County is now working on doing that. Since the State, Na Ala Hele (NAH) has completed their
access program and has created hazard signage which already has been approved; the County
will pull pieces out of the NAH program to create theirs.
The Memorandum of Understanding between NAH, National Park Service and the County is in
the process of getting final signatures for approval which will help identify trail alignments most
particularly in the North and South Kohala area near the Ala Kahakai trail system.
Mr. Flores asked if someone submits a suggestion form for public access to the Commission if it
would go to PD. Mr. Brown replied that yes, they can contact himself or Ms. Dana Okano. He
added that the landowner may be willing to sell an easement to the County with the 2% funds of
which the Commission could authorize.
Ms. Springer asked if the program can verify historic trails or valid access ways. Mr. Brown
replied that there's a section that lets you search by "historical government ownership" which are
usually right -of -way's that have been claimed through the Highways Act of 1892. Ms. Springer
noted that she doesn't believe that all trails have been verified. Mr. Brown agreed that there
hasn't been any evidence to discount the claim; however more research needs to be done.
Ms. Garcia told the Commission that they will now be discussing Communication No. 09 -019
since it was deferred at the last meeting due to Ms. Self's absence. Ms. Self told them that since
it's not on the agenda they need to take a vote to add it as an item.
Motion: Vice -Chair Springer moved to amend the agenda so that the Commission can
review Communication 09 -019 under the Office of Corporation Counsel's report.
Seconded by Commissioner Moon; all members voted aye, motion carried.
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DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE REPORT
Mr. Van Bergen reported that the second appraisal is underway for the three Olson properties in
Kawa. The County should be receiving the report in about 2 -3 weeks and if the price is right,
Mr. Olson may be interested.
In addition, we are also in the process of ordering appraisals for Kaiholena, North and South
since both landowners are interested.
In regards to Pa`o`o, the County applied for Legacy Land Fund monies for this property and
should find out sometimes in December on the awards granted from the State. The property was
appraised at 1.89 million and we might enter into a non - binding letter of intent with the
landowner to let them know that we're interested.
He also added that the Kahuku properties are still available for purchase even though they were
taken off the market, they will be re- listed soon.
Property Manager Ken Van Bergen to discuss with the Commission the possibility of
reducing the amount of meetings from monthly to every other month effective
January 2010 due to the County's economic crisis
Mr. Van Bergen requested that on behalf of Ms. Nancy Crawford and the Finance department
that the Commission considers cutting their annual meetings from six to twelve due to the
County's current budget situation.
Ms. Garcia asked how much does it cost to have a meeting. Ms. Self replied that in the
upcoming fiscal year, it will be twice as bad with a projected 64 million dollar shortfall along
with possible lay -offs.
Ms. Springer asked if there were any purchases in 2009 with the 2% fund. Mr. Van Bergen
replied no, not for this year and mentioned that we currently have almost 11 million in the fund.
Mr. Komata asked if they can have analyzed budgets for three years of the Commissions'
expenses. Mr. Van Bergen noted that we will provide this information at the next meeting.
OFFICE OF THE CORPORATION COUNSEL'S REPORT
(The commissioners went into discussion regarding Communication No. 09 -019: Memo dated
July 24, 2009 to Council Chair J Yoshimoto and Members of the Hawaii County Council, from
Kim Garcia, Chair, Hawaii County Public Access, Open Space and Natural Resources
Preservation Commission (PONC), re: Proposed Amendment to Chapter 2, Article 42, Sections
2 -217 and 2 -218 of the Hawai `i County Code (2005 Edition, as amended), relating to PONC
fund)
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Ms. Self told the Commission that their proposed amendment on page 2 is not possible. The
reason is that the state and federal grants stipulates that the County can't pay more than the
appraised value for a property. By changing this language we will cut off our chances of getting
funding.
Mr. Flores noted that this amendment gives more opening for acquiring a property. For instance,
where grant monies is not involved, a private donor could come in and pay the additional monies
if the purchase price is beyond the appraised value.
Ms. Self added that if you don't have it set at the appraised value; the landowner could "jack up
the price" for the County. She noted that there could be problems when this proposal goes to
Council; however ultimately they will make the overall decision.
Mr. Komata asked on whether the County assigns the appraiser to determine the "highest and
best use" of the property, in the case of Kawa, for example.
Mr. Van Bergen replied that the vast majority of the appraisal price is based on recent sales and
that he needs to read the scope for Kawa, which is very detailed to meet the federal grant
requirements. Mr. Komata asked to get a copy of the scope for the Kawa appraisal. Mr. Van
Bergen noted that he will provide copies for the Commission at the next meeting.
Ms. Garcia commented that it seems like there's more discussion on this item. Ms. Springer
noted that it's already been submitted and they as a Commission don't have the opportunity to
make any further amendments on this. Ms. Self added that she just wanted them to be aware of
this.
CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
Ms. Garcia had nothing to report.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Commission to discuss creating new form for assessing public access suggestion
forms
(The commissioners reviewed the draft form prepared by Mr. Flores and went into discussion)
Motion: Vice -Chair Springer moved to approve the public access review form as amended.
Seconded by Commissioner Flores, opposed by Commissioner Markovich, the remaining
members voted aye, motion carried.
• Commission to discuss creating form letter to respond to suggestion forms
(The commissioners reviewed the draft form letters prepared by Ms. Moon and went into
discussion)
Recess: 12:03 p.m.
Reconvened: 12:07 p.m.
(The commissioners continued their discussion)
Motion: Vice -Chair Springer moved to approve the two letters, one for complete
suggestion forms and one for in- complete suggestion forms, as drafted. Seconded by
Commissioner Markovich; all members voted aye, motion carried.
Lunch: 12:17 p.m.
Reconvened: 12:46 p.m.
• Commission to discuss drafting of the 2009 Annual Report to the Mayor including
assessment of the 2009 suggestion forms
(The commissioners reviewed the draft cover letter for the 2009 Annual Report prepared by Ms.
Garcia and went into discussion)
Motion: Vice -Chair Springer moved for the approval of the Chair's cover letter to the
annual report as amended. Seconded by Commissioner Moon; all members voted aye,
motion carried.
(The commissioners reviewed the draft introduction for the 2009 Annual Report prepared by Ms.
Springer and went into discussion)
Motion: Commissioner Komata moved for the approval of the introduction to the annual
report as amended. Seconded by Commissioner Markovich; all members voted aye,
motion carried.
(The commissioners reviewed the draft page 2 of the 2009 Annual Report prepared by Mr.
Komata and went into discussion)
Recess: 2:24 p.m.
Reconvened: 2:30 p.m.
(The commissioners continued their discussion regarding drafting of the 2009 Annual Report)
Ms. Garcia noted that this item will be continued at the next meeting since Ms. Kelepolo will
have the draft annual report prepared for the commissioners to review and approve.
NEW BUSINESS
• Commission to discuss finalizing of the 2009 Prioritized List
(The commissioners went into discussion regarding finalizing of the 2009 Prioritized List)
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Ms. Garcia noted that this item will be continued at the next meeting since Ms. Kelepolo will
have the draft prioritized list prepared for the commissioners to review and approve.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, November 9, 2009, 10:00 a.m., at the Department
of Liquor Control Conference Room, 75 -5722 Hanama Place, Suite 1107, Kailua -Kona, Hawaii.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Garcia adjourned the meeting at 2:58 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Alexandra Kelepolo, Clerk III
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