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HAWAII COUNTY
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION
DISTRICT 8 — KONA
PUBLIC HEARING
Monday, October 17, 2011, 6:00 p.m.
West Hawaii Civic Center
74 -5044 Ane Keohokalole Hwy. Bldg. A
Kailua -Kona, Hawaii 96740
CALL TO ORDER:
CHR. SIRACUSA: Good evening everyone. Thank you for taking the time to attend. This is
the public hearing for the Hawaii County Redistricting Commission for the district of North
Kona, District 8. The Commission consists of nine volunteer members, one from each Council
district. We have here tonight from my far left, will you please introduce yourselves.
ATTENDANCE:
Present: Mr. Joseph Carvalho, Commissioner
Mr. Craig `Bo" Kahui, Commissioner
Mr. Jeffrey Melrose, Commissioner
Mr. Mike Middlesworth, Commissioner
Ms. Ren6 Siracusa, Chair
Ms. Linda Ugalde, Commissioner
Absent: Mr. Patrick Kahawaiola'a, Commissioner
Mr. Dru Mamo Kanuha, Commissioner
Ms. Valerie Poindexter, Commissioner
Also Present: Michael Udovic, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Jeanette Aiello, Committees Supervisor (Hilo)
Stephanie Tsunezumi, Committees Staff (Hilo)
Maile David, Legislative Research Branch
Karen Eoff, Secretary
CHR. SIRACUSA: We have each shared our district's concerns with each other, so that we
are all on the same page. Based on that, plus your input, we will decide the geographic
boundaries for each of the nine council districts based upon census data as well as the criteria
found in the Hawaii County Charter and Legislation passed by the Hawaii County Council.
Please note that we are only concerned here with County Council districts, and not State or
Federal legislative districts.
Copies of the Hawaii County Charter and the Laws relating to the Redistricting Commission
are available for your review at the sign in table. Also on the table are the close -up insets so
that you can see the actual boundary lines. The commission is first and foremost governed by
the principal of one person one vote. We are required by law to adopt boundaries which make
each of the districts approximately similar in resident population. Both case law and the laws
applicable to the Redistricting Commission allow for a deviation of a maximum of 4.99%
above or below the ideal resident population of 20,462 residents per council district. This is
after extraction of non - resident military, dependants, and students. Therefore the maximum
number of residents in any district can be no more than 21,483 and the minimum number of
residents is no less than 19,441.
The Commission has reviewed approximately 40 suggested maps showing various
configurations of the district boundaries. We have received and reviewed maps submitted by
members of the public, staff at the elections office, and those produced at Commission
meetings. The maps that remain suggest possible-district configurations. Some of the maps
contain deviations in resident population which are not acceptable because they are either
slightly too high or too low, but the Commission decided to keep these maps for review
because it appears that it will not be difficult to remedy the population imbalances. The
Commission rejected many maps due to major population imbalances but did keep others
which addressed many of the issues required to be considered by the law, such as road
connectivity and communities of interest. Some of these maps are more `friendly' to certain
districts than to others. None of them are cast in stone. We may very well end up creating
hybrids, combining the best of several.
We welcome your comments about the redistricting process and your suggestions about the
adoption of district boundaries. We have 6 maps showing possible configurations. You are
free to comment on any or all of these maps or make any other comments you wish relative to
redistricting. If you wish to see boundary details not shown in these maps, they are on the
table. You will be asked to keep your comments to no more than 5 minutes. The green light on
the timer will change to amber to alert you to the upcoming beep. The commissioners may or
may not have questions to clarify your testimony at this public hearing, but please do not
expect us to answer your questions or engage in dialogue, as our job today is strictly to listen to
your mana`o.
If you have not done so already and wish to offer testimony to the Commission please fill out
one of the sheets at the sign in table. Thank you very much for coming out to learn about this
process and to share your thoughts with us. I will now call the meeting to order, and call up
the first testifier.
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STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
CHR. SIRACUSA: Our first testifier is Margaret Willie of Waimea testifying on her own
behalf.
MARGARET WILLE
(At this time Margaret Wille came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MS.WILLE: Margaret Willie, Waimea. I submitted testimony which you may have gotten a
copy of. This is a revision of map, Plan _40. It's identical to Plan-40 adjusted that Friends of
Puna's Future submitted last week, or Saturday. Other than that it adjusts the lines for District
6/7 boundary, and District 7/8 boundaries. It also extends District 2 all the way along Saddle
Road instead of having a portion of District 6 extend up to Saddle Road in the center section of
that road. We have been trying to work with different community groups around the island on
this, and let the different local areas work on it, and even since this plan came up, been
working on further adjustments for the 7/6 boundary because what I've submitted splits
Hokulia community and so we've worked on that. The idea of this plan is that it is not perfect
for any district, but it's not terrible for any area, that's the point. It's not as you say, some
maps are really good for some areas and bad. We have been trying to just get a lot of
community input on it and working with the neighborhoods and shared visions and interests
that are coming up over the next decade, particularly in the way of water issues and road issues
and those other shared issues besides just neighborhoods.
There is one concern that has been expressed to me or one criticism that I don't agree with, so I
just wanted to mention that; and that's perhaps the rural districts, large ones should be a higher
population under the principle that if practical, areas that may be low sort of the high growth
areas, should be kept on the low end and the low populations that may not move should be kept
high. I consider that, if practical, criteria to often be in conflict with the shared interest; and I
think that where you need to make a choice between those, you should go where you're
keeping the shared interest together. I also think that in terms of practicality making say the
Ka'u or Hamakua areas larger, is also impractical in terms of one person representing that area
as well, so I bring that up.
Lastly, I just want to say that I think in terms of maps that I'm concerned about would probably
be map 17 in terms of how it splits the different North Kohala with South Kohala and makes a
large portion of Hamakua would become combined with Downtown Hilo; and I could go
around the map on that. I do think there is a question in terms of Waimea, there are other maps
that might be better if I only looked at Waimea, and what's best just for Waimea, and how does
one deal with keeping North and South Kohala versus say whether we include Lakeland. I
came down on that; I feel that you either knock out Waik6loa, or the bottom half of South
Kohala, and bring in Lakeland, which isn't in part of District 9 right now. Or, you leave
Lakeland, get as close to that area, Mud Lane area as you can, and leave it in District 1 as part
of the rural Hamakua district so Hamakua doesn't go into or doesn't need to go into Hilo. I
think that Lakeland's interests are very similar to the rest of East Waimea and are generally
taken into account. When we worked on the shuttle bus, we did it from Lakeland, we include
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them, but yet they also have a lot of strong ties with Hamakua. It's where the Hamakua Ditch
starts, it's where all the water interests are, aligned to Hamakua, so versus say Puako or
Waikoloa, those are distinct interest, we're all working on infrastructure, water things together,
and in terms of the CDP, keeping that together would be useful. Just so you know, that's how
we came to have a map that maybe is not great for anyone but is not terrible for any particular
area.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you Margaret. The next testifier is Mary Ann Faulkner of Waikoloa
representing herself.
MARIANNE FALKNER
(At this time Marianne Falkner came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MS. FALKNER: Good evening, thank you for letting me testify. My name is Marianne Falkner,
I am a registered voter and home owner in Waikoloa Village. I'm against splitting Waikoloa
Village into 2 council districts as I believe this would not benefit the community. The greatest
benefit to this community is not to become a house divided, and I have my telephone number and
email address on the testimony. Thank you.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Our next testifier is Cheryl King representing herself.
CHERYL KING
(At this time Cheryl King came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MS. KING: Again Commissioners thank you for coming, I know it's a long dark road back from
where you come from, and we appreciate it. I did look at all of these plans other people have
gone to the work, so I did try, and now I'm just tempted to chuck it, because there's always
something wrong with everything. The plan that got my hackles most was Plan _17. Three
different districts are found between Keauhou and the Kaloko - Honokohau National Historical
Park. I didn't like using Queen Ka`auhumanu as a boundary between District 8 to the West and
District 9 to the East starting at Kealakehe Parkway and heading South to Palani as I thought it
was fragmenting our town. This fragmentation continues to the South where a point of District 7
extends into District 8 using Kamehameha III as a boundary from the South to where it intersects
Kuakini and then takes this wedge of District 7 down South along the Kuakini Highway. I
understand now that that's just a weird census block, and you really couldn't help it. But what I
would like to see, I think districts on our coast should be as contiguous West to East as possible
respecting the idea of the ahupua`a.
The only good thing I see about this plan in my area, and I live here in Kailua -Kona near Lako, I
like the way it kept the main business areas together in Kailua. I'm not a businessman so I don't
know if that's a good thing for a business or not, but I just liked the idea, I feel like downtown
Kailua is a community of interest, and we should keep it together as much as we can. I like the
fact that Plan _17 kept Kealakekua and Captain Cook in the same district, without splitting them
but then again, they're lumped in with Ka`u, which doesn't seem right, maybe times have to
change, I don't know. I didn't like the fact that Volcano is lumped with Ka`u and not Puna in
Plan 17. Anyway that was my thoughts on Plan 17. I didn't think it was right for our area at all.
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My favorite plan of the 5 first ones presented, not including Plan _40, I liked Plan-28 the best in
terms of how it dealt with the Kailua area. Downtown is relatively together, there is a fairly good
Northern boundary between Districts 7 and 8 and the boundaries on the West side normally go
West to East enough to keep most towns and communities together. A negative for Plan _28,
Volcano is not with Puna, but Ka`u. See I've been indoctrinated by these Puna people but I am
looking to see if that's been done. Again, too much of the Kona coast I think, Kealakekua and
Captain Cook are lumped in with Ka`u but if that's good that they're together, if they want to be
together, and I'm beginning to realize there is probably no help for it, that we just can't consider
them ours anymore probably the way the lines go.
Plan _40, I have been looking at the revisions to Plan _40, and there are little things I don't like,
little areas that are East and West in two different districts, but I know the effort that's gone into it
and I've looked at these little things, I like the way some of the boundaries go through
uninhabited areas so that you don't split neighbors from one side of the street or another, which
you do if you follow a main street because of the way the census blocks are divided. So I do hope
you will give Plan _40 close consideration, I thought the Kona area in the new revision was
acceptable and as Margaret said, it's not perfect but it's pretty good, actually. I hope you'll
consider looking at it carefully to seek how things were done. Thank you.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you Cheryl.
MR. KAHUL• Cheryl, just for clarification, all the plans that you mentioned, which one would be
your first preference?
MS. KING: Plan 40.
MR. KAHUI: Plan 40.
MS. KING: Just because of all the effort. Like I said I liked Plan _28 just for the downtown areas
and the main parts. It was very smooth and together, But I liked Plan_40, the adjusted plan, the
newest version, because of the attention that was given to every district and trying to reach out to
everyone and I could see why things were in that particular plan and the effort that had been
made.
MR. KAHUI: So to the point then, Plan 40 would be your first preference.
MS. KING: I think so.
MR. KAHUI: Thank you.
MS. KING: Because I think it has the most chance of pleasing more people.
MR. KAHUI: Thank you.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Our next testifier is Zack Kennedy of Waikoloa, representing
himself.
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ZACK KENNEDY
(At this time Zack Kennedy came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MR. KENNEDY: My name is Zack Kennedy I am a resident of Waikoloa, and I have a comment
and two supporting comments to that. I do not feel that it's in the best interest of Waikoloa to
split Waikoloa in any way, shape or form. It doesn't make sense, and it's very divisive for
Waikoloa as a whole. Waikoloa constitutes almost exclusively bedroom. We have no industrial,
no farming, no agriculture, etcetera. It does not make sense to split it. Furthermore, Waikoloa
should stay with Waimea, that is where our resource, that is where Waikoloans go for the most
part to shop, etcetera. To keep those together makes the most sense of any claim. Thank you for
your time.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Our next testifier is Cindy Kennedy, also of Waikoloa, testifying
on behalf of herself.
CINDY KENNEDY
(At this time Cindy Kennedy came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MS. KENNEDY: Good evening, thank you; I don't envy you this job trying to please everybody.
Again, I am a resident of Waikoloa Village. I believe very strongly that the village should not be
split, we are kind of like a cul -de -sac, we're just there isolated, little community. Mr. Kennedy
didn't mention but he is on the Board. We have a Board of Directors, I can't imagine what it
would be like if the village was split into two districts. I tend to like Plan _40, but the problem
with Plan _40 is it splits Waikoloa Road between North and South, that doesn't make too much
sense so maybe one of the revisions, I've heard rumors of a 40 -c, maybe one of the revisions of
Plan _40 that would include both sides, so that all of Waikoloa Village, that is all in the same
homeowners association, could be united. We feel very strongly about that, as does much, much
of village. Thank you.
MR. MELROSE: Can I ask a question?
CHR. SIRACUSA: Yes.
MR. MELROSE: It reminds me, at the southern edge of Waikoloa is a little bulb in the census
tracks; I think it's on the South side of the Village where there used to be preschools out there and
a church, but isn't there a housing facility, like a Jack Hall housing unit out there?
MS. KENNEDY: I don't know about Jack Hall. We have the subsidized housing, is that what
it's called?
MR. MELROSE: Yeah.
MS. KENNEDY: Yes it's still there.
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MR. MELROSE: Okay, and that's on the South side of that road right?
MS. KENNEDY: Correct.
MR. MELROSE: So in order not to split Waik6loa you actually need to include that piece in it?
MS. KENNEDY Yes, and part of.....
MR. MELROSE: And I don't think Plan _40 does that, but I think just that's to keep in mind that
there is one other significant housing unit out there, on the other side of that.
MS. KENNEDY: And between Waik6loa Road and that housing development, we have planned
light industry and that would be all be hopefully all together with the village.
MR. MELROSE: Okay I just wanted to make sure that what I was remembering is actually in the
map. Thank you.
MS. KENNEDY:Thank you for thinking of that.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Our next testifier is George Robertson, representing Puak6
Community Association.
GEORGE ROBERTSON
(At this time George Robertson came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MR. ROBERTSON: George Robertson: Good evening folks, I guess you've heard my pitch
before for keeping Puak6 in with Waimea and North Kohala, and connected to those areas. We
feel very strongly that we don't want to break that bond, and we've been so well represented by
Pete Hoffman, who really has taken good care of us. And driving here tonight, I live in Wailea
Bay, Beach 69, which is next to Puak6. I drove all this way and I thought, I can't imagine not
being connected with Waimea and represented by the same council person that takes care of
Waimea and our surrounding areas; so I mean, when you guys drive that road, think about it. It's
just a long haul of nothing in between. The resorts are there but you know the resorts are so
unique, it doesn't matter who represents them in my estimation. So anyway, keep us in mind, try
to keep us connected with Waimea. I know the trade off seems to be looking at Lakeland, what
do we do with Lakeland, like Margaret expressed, the Lakeland community is well represented
and well connected with Waimea already, so I don't think they'd be damaged by staying the way
they've been. I just want to acknowledge Margaret for the work she's done on Plan _40, and
that's our preference; that keeps us in with South Kohala and Waimea. I want to acknowledge the
hard work you folks are doing, this is a really tough job. Thank you very much.
MR. KAHUI: You just stated that your preference would be Plan_40 given the Puak6 connection
and also fitting in with District 9, I believe.
MR. ROBERTSON: Yes.
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MR. KAHUL• So your preference would be to stay in District 9?
MR. ROBERTSON: Correct.
MR. KAHUL• Okay, thank you.
MR. MELROSE: Robby, kind of a similar question. Have you looked at the maps in the software
that we have to use?
MR. ROBERTSON: Yes, I have.
MR. MELROSE: There is one census block that kind of runs along the coast line, kind of in an
oddly shape, and I just want to make sure that that census block catches all of Puako and when
you think of Puako you're really talking about from the Mauna Lani border back through Hapuna
Beach. Is that what your definition of what Puako is?
MR. ROBERTSON: Yes, and Puako would include Puako Road which runs down to Paniau, and
George Zimmer's house is the last house on that road, and that's where I would say would be the
boundary, but it's very difficult. I played around with the maps, and I couldn't keep it together, it
seems like grab on to like parts of Mauna Lani so somebody's gotta, who really knows that
process, I couldn't separate it out properly so.
MR. MELROSE: I just wanted to make sure that when you say Puako which you're talking
about is Paniau to Hapuna.
MR. ROBERTSON Correct.
MR. MELROSE: That's below the road essentially, but it doesn't even have to be below the
road, it's just the last house on that one lane road on either side?
MR. ROBERTSON Right.
MR. MELROSE: Okay, and there is nothing else out there that we should be thinking out there
where you would count at Puako?
MR. ROBERTSON Correct.
MR. MELROSE: Okay thanks.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you George. Our next testifier is Charles Flaherty representing
himself.
CHARLES FLAHERTY
(At this time Charles Flaherty came forward to address members of the Commission.)
MR. FLAHERTY: Aloha members of the Redistricting Commission. I also wanted to thank you
all for your hard work and dedication to this very difficult process. I guess what I wanted to share
with you all, I have been looking at the different maps and the different issues with the different
maps, but I haven't really come to an opinion at this time. I hope to be able to share that when
you all go to Yano Hall in South Kona, where I am currently residing, in Honaunau, in South
Kona. One of the things that I wanted to share with you all when we drew our maps back in
2001, was that we looked at the what was the driver of the different economies, because the
economy is something that would be continuing into the future; like agricultural, resort,
transportation, urban. In addition to that, and with regard to those strange census blocks on the
coastline, I think the representative of the conservation district, the SMA area that runs along the
coastline - -and you see that in our plans - -as far as like there is a proposed shoreline park that runs
along the North Kona shoreline, and there is one proposed for Ka'u and for South Kona as well.
Then the other thing I wanted to ask you, and you probably have done this. and maybe someone
has already testified about it but, I think it would be important to look at the County General Plan.
since that is how growth is supposed to be directed for us and also at the different community
plans. I will say that when the Kona Community Development Plan, which was the first
community development plan that was done, I had asked the Mayor at that time, Planning
Director Chris Yuen, to split South and North Kona because I felt that they were different as far
as their economic base. They didn't agree, and kind of lumped us together, but what I wanted to
share with you all is if you look at the Kona Community Development Plan and the General Plan,
you'll see that the mauka South Kona area along the highway is considered like a contiguous rural
village area. I realize that given the needs of other areas that it might not be possible to prevent
this particular area from being split. On that I would hope that you would consider that just from
being my home place that you all consider that as well, as I'm sure you will. I did want to just
reiterate that we do have the development plans and the general plan processes that have been
vetted by testimony. And in prior testimony, and what not, and Bo's very intimately involved
with that for sure Thank you for your dedication to that process as well. So, thank you.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. I have no more testifiers, however if any of you in the audience
now feel moved to come up and have a word, it is not too late. You can go up to Karen over there
and quickly fill out a sign in sheet. We do want to hear what you have to say, we want to get as
much input as possible. You know your areas much better than most of us. If you wake up in the
middle of the night with a flash, this is not the end. You can submit email testimony, and Karen
will tell you how to do that. You can submit snail mail testimony, and there is a Yano Hall public
hearing coming up Thursday, and there will be more opportunities to testify and to provide your
input, so please avail yourselves of all those opportunities and if there is nothing else, then I need
a motion to adjourn.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, at 6:40 p.m.,
Ms. Ugalde moved to adjourn the meeting.
Seconded by Mr. Melrose and carried by
the following vote:
Ayes: Commissioners Carvalho, Kahui,
Melrose, Middlesworth, Ugalde,
and Chair Siracusa.
Noes: None.
Absent: Commissioners Kanuha, Kahawaiola`a
and Poindexter.
CHR. SIRACUSA: Motion carries. Thank you.
Respectfully Submitted,
Karen Eoff, Secretary
Approved on November 3, 2011:
Ms. Rene Siracusa, Chair
Hawaii County Redistricting Commission
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