HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-12-13 Leeward Exh A - RS10 Kalaoa
LEEWARD PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI‘I
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
DECEMBER 13, 2012
RS10 KALAOA LLC (Amend REZ No. 854)
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of
was called to order at 9:42 a.m. in the West Hawai‘i Civic Center, Community Center, Building G,
74-5044 Ane Keohokālole Highway, Kailua-Kona, Hawai‘i, with Chair Geraldine Giffin presiding.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geraldine Giffin, Brandi Beaudet, Lani Bowman,
Thomas Hickcox, Richard Nelson, III and Thomas Whittemore
ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Wayne Iokepa
ALSO PRESENT: Ivan Torigoe (Deputy Corporation Counsel), BJ Leithead Todd (Planning
Director), Daryn Arai (Planning Program Manager), Phyllis Fujimoto (Planner), Jeff Darrow
(Planner), Maija Cottle (Planner) and Noriko Sauer (Commission Secretary)
And approximately 21 people from the public in attendance.
APPLICANT: RS10 KALAOA LLC (Amend REZ No. 854)
Request to amend Condition D (time to secure Final Subdivision Approval) and Condition J (fair
share requirements) of Change of Zone Ordinance No. 07-160, which amended Change of Zone
Ordinance No. 97-56, which rezoned approximately 10.283 acres of land from an Agricultural–5
acre (A-5a) to a Single Family Residential–10,000 square foot (RS-10) zoning district. The
properties (portion of Kukuinui Subdivision) is located at the intersection of Nana Street and
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Holoholo Street between the Kona Coastview and Kona Palisades Subdivisions, at Kalaoa 4,
North Kona, Hawai‘i, TMK: 7-3-28: 82 through 102.
GIFFIN: Under New Business, the applicant, Agenda Item No. 1, the applicant is RS10 Kalaoa
LLC. The request is to amend Condition D, time to secure final subdivision approval, and
Condition J, the fair share requirements, of Change of Zone Ordinance No. 07-160. The applicant
has submitted a request for a five-year time extension to comply with Condition D of Zone
Ordinance No. 07-160, as I stated earlier. And I can read you what it says, “Final Subdivision
Approval of the proposed residential subdivision within the subject property shall be secured from
the Planning Director within five (5) years from the effective date of this ordinance.” The applicant
is also requesting a five-year time extension to comply with Condition J, the fair share requirement,
but this condition does not have a time requirement, and as of this date the applicant is in
compliance with the requirements of Condition J. Good morning. Without any further ado, Jeff
Darrow, will you please present.
DARROW: Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Good morning, Members of the Planning
Commission. Beautiful day we have here in Kona, it’s nice to be on this side in the sun. If I can
direct your attention to our first presentation this morning. Our applicant is RS10 Kalaoa LLC, and
they are requesting an amendment to Change of Zone Ordinance No. 07-160. The REZ 854 is a
reference to our file for this particular application. The location of this subject property is within
the North Kona District. More specifically, we are looking in the area of Kona Palisades Estates
Subdivision. Running through the middle of the map, we have Ka‘iminani Drive. We have Queen
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Ka‘ahumanu Highway running is a north-south direction on the left side of the map, and we have
Māmalahoa Highway running in a north-south direction on the mauka side of the property on the
right side of the map. The subject property is identified with a black outline, and you can see that
there are numerous subdivisions surrounding this particular area. This is a closer-up view of the
property, identifying the different zonings in the area; mainly we are looking at Agricultural-5
acres, but these are nonconforming types of lots, which are smaller than five acres in size. A
majority of them are also located within the State Land Use Urban District. The subject property
for this particular application consists of actually this entire yellow area, but the applicant has
previously subdivided the mauka portion and has completed Increment I. They are requesting a
time extension to be able to complete Increment II. And just for reference we have again
Ka‘iminani Drive on the lower portion of the map, Holoholo Street that brings access from
Ka‘iminani to Kukuinui Place. The actual property will have a cul-de-sac, as we’ll see with the
subdivision map in the future here.
This is an aerial photo, again, Ka‘iminani Drive on the lower portion with Holoholo Street. You
can see the portion of Increment I that’s been subdivided and the single-family dwellings that have
been constructed, and there has already been some construction activity on Increment II. State Land
Use Boundary Map, again, identifying the majority of the area in the State Land Use Urban
designation with some in Agricultural. This is the General Plan LUPAG Map for the area,
identifying that this particular area is slated for Low Density Urban type uses for a long range plan.
And last but not least, we have the Kona Community Development Plan Land Use Map, very
difficult to show exactly where the property is, but it’s basically in this particular area. Again, we
have Ka‘iminani Drive. It identifies that this particular property is within the Kona Urban Area
designated in the plan, which is outlined in red. You’ll see the different transient oriented
developments, or TOD’s, that are identified along the corridor there, and this is located outside of
those TOD’s.
The applicant is requesting an amendment to Condition D, which is time to secure final subdivision
approval, and Condition J, which is our fair share requirements condition, of Change of Zone
Ordinance 07-160, which amended Change of Zone Ordinance No. 97-56, which originally rezoned
the property, approximately 10.283 acres, from Agricultural-5 acres to Single Family Residential
zoning. Condition D of Zone Ordinance No. 07-160 states, “Final Subdivision Approval of the
proposed residential subdivision within the subject property shall be secured from the Planning
Director within five (5) years from the effective date of this ordinance.” The deadline would have
been October 19, 2012. Condition J does not require an amendment because there is no time
condition. Condition J states that the applicant shall pay fair share prior to final subdivision
approval of any portion or its increments; so the applicant has paid for the fair share portion of
Increment I, and prior to final subdivision of Increment II they will pay the fair share.
The reason for the request: The applicant is in the process of subdividing and developing a total of
31 residential lots; Increment I has been completed, which consists of a total of 20 lots; the deadline
to secure final subdivision approval for Increment II, as we mentioned, is October 19, 2012; the
applicant had every intention of trying to meet the current deadline based on the completion of a
number of conditions, but given the current serious economic slump, the applicant felt it was
unfeasible and not prudent to move forward with the project at this time considering current
construction costs.
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This is the final plat map that’s been, or the preliminary plat map, that’s been submitted for
Increment II. For reference, you have Increment I on the right side of the map, which has been
completed, Holoholo Street and, again, Kukuinui Place with the proposed extension of the
cul-de-sac. There are a total of eleven lots identified on the preliminary subdivision map.
The Planning Director is recommending that the Planning Commission send a favorable
recommendation to the Hawai‘i County Council for this time extension request. Are there any
questions?
GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions of Jeff? Seeing none, thank you, Jeff.
DARROW: Thank you.
GIFFIN: At this time I would like to call the applicant and/or the applicant’s representative to
please come forward. There is a table there with two chairs and microphones.
MCCOMAS: Good morning.
GIFFIN: Good morning. Will you please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm to tell the
truth on this matter now before the Leeward Hawai‘i County Planning Commission?
ASHIKAWA: Yes.
MCCOMAS: We do.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Starting with you, ma’am, will you please state your name and your capacity
here this morning.
MCCOMAS: I’m Faye McComas. I represent RS10 Kalaoa as the manager.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And you, sir?
ASHIKAWA: I’m Gary Ashikawa. I work for Kona Scenic Land who is also affiliated with RS10
Kalaoa.
GIFFIN: Great, thank you. Hang on just a minute. So who is going to do the initial presentation,
you?
MCCOMAS: I guess, yeah.
GIFFIN: Great.
MCCOMAS: As far as the presentation, I’m not sure – I guess the gentleman has covered pretty
much what, you know, we, our intent is – so I’m not sure exactly how much more you want me to
go into detail, I mean, I’ll be willing to answer questions.
GIFFIN: Sure, sure.
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MCCOMAS: But as far as that I think he has covered pretty much, you know, what our intent is at
this point.
GIFFIN: Commissioners, let’s start this way then. Do you have any questions of the applicant? I
do.
MCCOMAS: Okay.
GIFFIN: In terms of the time, you know, your time, block of time that you are asking for, what is
still specifically needed to be done?
MCCOMAS: Well, we fina-, we have all of the plans, I think, that were completed; the only thing
that’s holding us at this point would be, again as we had stated, you know, because of the way the
economy is, you know, we are just hoping that the economy improves within the next five years so
that it becomes feasible for us to move forward on this. We are committed to do it; however, at this
time I think, you know, it’s just, it’s not feasible for us.
GIFFIN: I’m looking at your letter that you sent to the Director, dated October 12, 2012, and in that
you speak to all of the various conditions and the status of what has been done -.
MCCOMAS: Right.
GIFFIN: In terms, and I understand the economic situation, what level, what tipping point are you
looking for in terms of the economy to be better to begin actually selling your lots?
MCCOMAS: Well, I guess, you know, just kind of see within the next five years or sooner that the
economy starts to pick up where, you know, the market becomes more active and to kind of offset
the balance with the expenses, you know, that I guess will be incurred for the subdivision.
GIFFIN: In your previous section, the increment that is already sold, what were you selling the lots
for?
MCCOMAS: I think it was averaged -.
ASHIKAWA: The average went to $250,000.
GIFFIN: Per lot.
ASHIKAWA: Yes.
GIFFIN: And they averaged in size?
MCCOMAS: They were all about 10,000 square feet -.
ASHIKAWA: Approximately 10,000 square feet.
GIFFIN: Okay. Commissioners, any other questions of the applicant? If not, at this point – thank
you very much – there is a person -. Oh, I’m sorry -.
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LEITHEAD TODD: No, no, no, I have no questions.
GIFFIN: Okay, there is -. I’m sorry? Oh, if they have, yeah. Ivan has just reminded me if you
have received a copy of the background report and the Director’s recommendation.
MCCOMAS: Yes.
ASHIKAWA: Yes.
GIFFIN: Great, thank you very much. And if you’ll just move back, there is a man who has signed
up to testify. His name is Richard Wagner. Sir, if you are here -. Great. And I’d like to remind
you one more time, members of the public, if there is anyone else who would like to testify, please
go up to our staff and sign up. Sir?
WAGNER: The name is Richard Wagner -.
GIFFIN: Hang on just one minute. Will you please raise your right hand? Thank you. Do you
swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Leeward Hawai‘i County Planning
Commission?
WAGNER: Yes.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And your name, sir?
WAGNER: Richard Wagner. I live at 73-1003 Kukuinui in the first phase. One of the things that
was overlooked in the first phase is mail delivery. We do not get mail delivery, and I’d like to
know if there is a provision – there is apparently, local legend said that mail delivery was going to
happen at the second phase whenever it gets built – and I’d like to know, is this included as one of
the conditions of the subdivision?
GIFFIN: Um -.
WAGNER: Or is it something you can answer?
GIFFIN: Director.
LEITHEAD TODD: Basically, mail deliver is at the mercy of the US Postal Service and not by
people who create subdivisions. So if there is an issue of not getting delivery, it has to be taken up
with the Postal Service.
WAGNER: I don’t believe you are a hundred percent right; my understanding was there is no place
for a community mailbox -.
LEITHEAD TODD: Oh, you are talking about not individual but a community mailbox. Okay -.
WAGNER: No, well, yeah, something that’s closer than the post office in the town.
LEITHEAD TODD: Okay, that still has to be taken up with the Postal Service, and then it would
have to be located.
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GIFFIN: Daryn.
ARAI: My understanding is that the Postal Service has instituted new rules regarding the use of
gang mailboxes, and they are discouraging individual mail delivery to individual residences. I’m
not sure if this particular project met the cutoff when they were going to gang mailboxes versus
individual service; but ultimately it is up to the subdivider working with the US Postal Service to
determine if mail service can be delivered to individual lots. And if not, then accommodations
somehow have to be made for a gang mailbox facility. But that is really between the subdivider or,
if yours is a pre-existing subdivision, then the subdivision and the Postal Service. But it’s not
something that can be addressed in this venue.
WAGNER: My – is this live?
GIFFIN: Yeah.
WAGNER: My belief is that it was overlooked in Phase I, and it was said that it was going to be
done at Phase II, exactly what you were saying, by the subdivider.
ARAI: What we -.
WAGNER: Yeah, I -.
ARAI: What we do is during the subdivision process we inform all subdividers of the new
requirements of the US Postal Service regarding these community mailboxes. Whether or not the
landowner or developer is obligated to provide a gang facility that would service both Phases I and
II, that I’m not sure; the expectation at least within our Department is that a facility for the
particular phase.
WAGNER: Don’t you provide, put conditions on subdivision that the developer has to complete
before it’s approved? And that’s what I’m asking. Can you or Will you do it?
ARAI: For mail service, no, because it is not a standard requirement of the subdivision process;
mail service is not a prerequisite for subdivision. Access, like roadways, water service, yes, but not
mail delivery.
WAGNER: So in other words I’m going to have to pay $240 for the rest of the time I stay in
Kukuinui – it just went up a hundred percent for mail box – plus time and gas to go to Kona to pick
up my mail.
GIFFIN: Sir, if I may interrupt.
WAGNER: Oh, go ahead.
GIFFIN: We have, as you saw earlier, the developer here -.
WAGNER: Yeah, I’d like to find out -.
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GIFFIN: And so this would be a good thing for us to ask. Ma’am, or either one of you, will you
please come up. I don’t know if you heard the concern that Mr. Wagner just presented, but it has to
do with mail delivery to both increments. He lives in Increment I, if I’m correct, Mr. Wagner?
WAGNER: Yes.
GIFFIN: And he said that he was told, and I don’t know by whom, that they, they would be
providing mail delivery to both increments when Increment II happened.
WAGNER: As a gang box type of thing.
GIFFIN: Yeah, uh huh.
ASHIKAWA: Actually, when Increment I was developed, that really wasn’t an issue back then
because back then the post office did individual delivery. And I guess right during completion they
changed it to where they no longer provide home delivery individual. So it kind of caught us off
guard like that; we weren’t expecting that. So for Increment II we were planning to put some kind
of cluster mailbox initially, and after speaking with the, someone from the post office, they came up
to take a look, and there really wasn’t an area that could be agreed on. And I guess the best thing
for them would be along Holoholo Street some kind of cluster box, but after speaking to I think
Engineering, someone from the County, they didn’t feel that was a good place to put the boxes. So
we were kind of like, you know, decided that, I guess, at this time it can’t be done, I guess, to put
the cluster mailbox there. And like, as it was already stated, you know, the post office, that’s kind
of between the owner and the post office for the delivery, so if they don’t want to do it, you know,
it’s, I guess -.
GIFFIN: I don’t mean to be washing the County’s hands of this issue, sir, but it sounds to me that
this is an issue that should be taken up between the developer and members of your community
association, if one exists, and also Phase II owners, too. And as Daryn said earlier, and Daryn, you
can correct me if I’m wrong, this is not the domain of the County. Did I hear you correctly, Daryn?
ARAI: That is correct; mail delivery is not a requirement for subdivisions.
GIFFIN: But I do strongly recommend that both of you, and all three of you, ma’am, you included,
go ahead and speak to the members of the Phase I group. Director.
LEITHEAD TODD: I was going to say if you follow up, contact me, I’m willing to work with you
and try mediate some meeting with the US Postal Service, and see whether we can come up with an
agreed-upon spot, and I’ll also talk to Engineering, because -. I mean, you know, I like having my
mailbox at my house, and I feel sorry that you kind of got caught off guard because you obviously
started the subdivision with belief that people would get individual spots. So why don’t you follow
up, call me, and then let’s set up a meeting and see what we can do and whether there is some place
where we can find something, and maybe it’s not Holoholo Street, maybe it has to be another
County street, but something that’s closer to the residents of your subdivision than having to drive
all the way down to the post office boxes.
ASHIKAWA: Thank you. I’ll be willing to speak with you -.
LEITHEAD TODD: Okay, thank you.
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GIFFIN: That sounds great. Mr. Wagner?
WAGNER: Yeah, Ms. Planning Director, I don’t think the County would be amenable to us, me
drilling a hole in the sidewalk and putting my post office box there for individual -. Or is that
possible?
LEITHEAD TODD: I’m looking at a gang system, because the problem is is that the Postal Service
has basically moved away from doing individual house delivery. And it’s one of their cost, you
know, control items that they are doing. But what it sounds like is they need a spot where they can
kind of pull off the road and access so that it also has – we have the same issues happening on the
other side of the island – it has to be a safe spot where both residents can pull off and access the
mailboxes as well as the Postal Service. And so whether that can be accomplished within Increment
II or whether that has to be accomplished someplace else where the County has another spot, we’re
going to have to have the conversation, because I suspect that this is going to be an issue. Even
though it’s not in our Subdivision Code, this is going to be an issue that comes up with other
developments, and it’s something that we ought to take a look at as we approve even if it’s not a
requirement, because otherwise we are going to have very disgruntled unhappy people -.
GIFFIN: Right.
WAGNER: Especially the elderly who don’t move around as much.
LEITHEAD TODD: You know, and so it seems like this is something that whether it’s our kuleana
or not, that we ought to get involved in and engage with the Postal Service and work out some kind
of a settlement. So please call me, and let’s see what we can do.
ASHIKAWA: Okay, I will, thank you.
WAGNER: Okay, I’ll call. Thank you very much for your time.
GIFFIN: You’re very welcome. Any other members of the public who wish to testify on this
agenda item? Commissioners, any questions? Once again, Commissioners, we are looking at
Agenda Item 1, which is RS10 Kalaoa LLC, who is asking for a change of zone for the Ordinance
No. 07-160, specifically to the amendment, Condition D and Condition J. No questions? Do I hear
a motion? Brandi, do you have a question?
BEAUDET: No.
GIFFIN: Okay.
BEAUDET: I have a motion.
GIFFIN: Brandi.
BEAUDET: I move for a favorable recommendation of the request to amend Condition D of
Change of Zone Ordinance No. 07-160 be forwarded to the County Council.
GIFFIN: Do I hear a second?
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HICKCOX: Second.
GIFFIN: It’s been moved by Commissioner Beaudet and seconded by Commissioner Hickcox that
we send a favorable recommendation for the request to amend Condition D of Change of Zone
Ordinance No. 07-160 to the County Council. Discussion? Hearing none, Jeff?
DARROW: Thank you, Madam Chair. With that, we’ll take the motion. Commissioner Beaudet?
BEAUDET: Aye.
DARROW: Commissioner Hickcox?
HICKCOX: Aye.
DARROW: Commissioner Bowman?
BOWMAN: Aye.
DARROW: Commissioner Nelson?
NELSON: Aye.
DARROW: Commissioner Whittemore?
WHITTEMORE: Aye.
DARROW: And Madam Chair?
GIFFIN: Aye.
DARROW: The motion passes, six to zero.
GIFFIN: Thank you very much.
The discussion ended at 10:06 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Noriko Sauer, Secretary
Leeward Planning Commission
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