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SALARY COMMISSION
March 27, 2013
M I N U T E S
Chairperson Lundkvist called the meeting to order at 9:38 a.m. in the
Conference Room of the Prosecuting Attorney, 655 Kilauea Avenue, Hilo,
Hawai‘i.
Present:
Ms. Karolyn P. Lundkvist, Chairperson
Ms. Pudding Lassiter, Vice Chairperson
Ms. Marcella L. Stroh, Secretary
Mr. Brian De Lima, Member
Mr. Michael Sumja, Member
Excused:
Mr. George Handgis, Member
Ms. Gloria Wong, Member
Others present:
Ms. Molly Lugo, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Ms. Sharon Toriano, Deputy Director of Human Resources
Ms. Joney Nitahara, Human Resources Manager
Ms. Jennifer Sakamoto, Human Resources Program Specialist
Ms. Velma Y. Menezes, Secretary-Reporter
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 13, 2013
MOTION: Mr. De Lima moved that the minutes of February 13, 2013
be approved as circulated. The motion was seconded by
Ms. Stroh and unanimously carried.
NEW BUSINESS
A) Duties of Secretary and Election of Secretary for Calendar Year
2013
Chairperson Lundkvist noted that the election for Secretary was
inadvertently omitted from the agenda last month and asked for clarification
on what the duties of the Secretary are.
Hawai‘i County is an Equal Opportunity Provider and Employer
Ms. Menezes stated that traditionally, the Secretary has been assigned
to keep the meeting moving along and keep the Commission on track in their
discussions as it relates to the agenda items. Ms. Menezes does the minutes
for the Commission, and the Secretary is someone elected from the
Commission. When the Mayor’s Office assigned the Salary Commission to
the department many years ago, they continued to follow what was
traditionally done.
Chairperson Lundkvist stated that it’s not clear to her whether they
need a Secretary.
Mr. De Lima stated that they already have a Secretary, so they should
just say it’s the Secretary’s job to keep notes of the meetings and compare it
with the minutes prepared by staff. He believes that would be a good task.
The Secretary can proofread the draft before it’s finalized to see if it’s in
accordance with her notes.
In response to Mr. Sumja’s question on whether the meetings are
recorded, Ms. Menezes stated that they are. She also noted that the
Commission doesn’t have any rules pertaining to the election or duties of
officers.
Ms. Stebbins stated the Secretary position has just evolved per
previous practice, but it’s not actually in the Commission’s rules that they’re
required to have a Secretary.
Mr. Sumja commented that business corporations have a secretary.
That doesn’t mean the secretary takes notes. The secretary of a corporation
has a different function, and maybe that’s what this function is supposed to
be.
Ms. Stebbins responded that the Commission’s rules do not specifically
note what the duties of the Secretary are. She thinks Mr. De Lima’s
suggestion that the Secretary coordinate with Ms. Menezes to review the
minutes would be a useful one, as the minutes are not prepared verbatim,
but are summarized with the content of what was said.
MOTION: Mr. Sumja moved that the Commission carry on with the
position of the Secretary and that the Commission’s
Secretary collaborate with the staff secretary on the
minutes. The motion was seconded by Mr. De Lima and
unanimously carried.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A) Review of existing pay plan to include restructuring current
salaries of executives and elected officials and adjusting accordingly.
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Ms. Stebbins reminded the Commission that at the previous meeting
an investigative subcommittee was formed and tasked with looking into
recommendations for salary changes. At this meeting, the subcommittee will
report its findings and recommendations; and there can’t be any deliberation
or discussion on those recommendations at today’s meeting. Deliberations
and discussions will occur at the next meeting. This is per the requirements
of the sunshine law. They will hear from the subcommittee today and then
at the next meeting there will be deliberation and decision making.
Mr. Sumja reported that they made some real headway, but when he
sees Nancy Crawford’s letter today, that throws them off and bears some
discussion. The subcommittee came up with specifics along the lines of what
members had discussed previously. Members had given the subcommittee
excellent input, and the subcommittee came up with what they felt was fair
all the way around.
The subcommittee also got excellent support from the department’s
staff, Ms. Nitahara and Ms. Sakamoto, who worked very hard putting the data
together. (See attached “Recommended Salaries for County of Hawai‘i
Executives and Elected Officials Effective 07-01-2013.”)
Ms. Stebbins stated that the subcommittee can elaborate on what their
findings and recommendations are and present that to the full Commission.
The sunshine law says that when a committee is formed and tasked with a
certain assignment, they do the assignments, then come back to a meeting to
report their findings and recommendations. Deliberating and decision
making can only occur at a subsequent meeting.
Mr. Sumja stated that they understood from the onset that there were
certain things that people were concerned about, specifically a member of
the Commission and the Prosecutor who was here at the last meeting, and
they took that into consideration. Then Ms. Lassiter said they ought to be
fair to everybody. Thus, they went through the entire list and deliberated to
the point where they were fair to every position on that list, staying within
the context of 3%. They also dealt with the issue of subordinates being paid
more than the department head.
Chairperson Lundkvist thanked the subcommittee for their work and
time on this important task.
Mr. De Lima suggested that when they schedule their next meeting,
they invite the public to attend and testify on the issue. The item that’s on
every agenda, “Statements from the Public on Agenda Items,” should serve
that purpose, but perhaps they should hold their next meeting at the County
Council room with video conferencing in Waimea and Kona to afford an
islandwide opportunity for the public to comment on what may be a concern
to them.
MOTION: Mr. De Lima moved to coordinate the next meeting date
and time to facilitate public participation at the normal
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video conferencing locations. Ms. Stroh seconded the
motion.
Discussion:
Mr. De Lima stated that the statements from the public and the
Commission’s regular meeting can be at the same meeting, but they need to
have video conferencing. The public’s opportunity to give input will occur at
the beginning of the meeting under the agenda item “Statements from the
Public.”
The subcommittee’s recommendation is already a public item and
should be posted with the agenda for the public’s review.
The motion was voted on and carried unanimously.
Ms. Stebbins noted that there has been a communication submitted by
Finance Director Nancy Crawford. If the Commission wants to, they can
discuss it in a broader sense of restructuring pay plans. However, again,
they cannot deliberate or decide on this specific recommendation.
Mr. De Lima suggested that they transmit the proposed pay plan to
Ms. Crawford, advise her to review the recommendations and provide
further comment at the next meeting, because the unknown may have
caused her to draft that letter. Now that there is a precise number being
proposed here, she may have a different view. What she may have thought
was going to cost millions when it’s $226,000, may have a major impact, or it
may not. The Commission can ask her to provide further input on that
matter. He thinks the Chair should send a letter, give her the proposal, and
invite her to comment further on the specific impact it would have.
Motion: Ms. Lassiter moved that the Chairperson write to
Ms. Crawford with the salary recommendations and invite
her to the Commission’s next meeting to give a
presentation. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sumja
and unanimously carried.
Ms. Lassiter questioned whether they should have asked Ms. Crawford
to come sooner to explain the budgetary responsibilities of the County.
Perhaps for the future, the Commission should invite Ms. Crawford for any
matter that involves salary increases.
Mr. De Lima stated that Ms. Crawford voiced her position perhaps
based on not knowing what their recommendations would be. The Salary
Commission has a specific charge to provide equitable salaries that are
appropriate for the executives. They are independent, their decision is final,
but they need to take everything into account, so he doesn’t disagree with
anything Ms. Lassiter said. However, they have invited all departments,
including her department early on since they started meeting over a year
ago, to provide input so this is not something that has just come up. They
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have gotten submissions and testimony, but he thinks the work of the
permitted interaction group, by presenting this plan, took into account the
totality of the circumstances. They also provided rationale and information
on the highest paid subordinates, so he thought the report was well done.
The Commission is going to deliberate and discuss it at their next meeting,
and if Ms. Crawford has more input, even the specifics, she can provide it
then. Then they’ll make the best decision they can.
Mr. Sumja added that financial people, and Nancy Crawford
specifically, will always not want to raise one dime. So they have to think
about that when deliberating. If they don’t do it this year, what year are they
going to do it? Then it’ll be worse next year than it is this year.
Mr. Sumja also noted at this time that he and Ms. Lassiter wished to
compliment the Chairperson on creating a group of people who will meet on
a regular basis as opposed to once a year, but also, as Ms. Lassiter had
mentioned, there are certain members who never show at meetings.
Ms. Lassiter explained that if a member’s interest is not there, then
perhaps it’s time to suggest they resign and have their position filled with
someone willing to attend so that they would always would have a quorum.
Mr. De Lima stated that he doesn’t think it’s appropriate to discuss this
now, as it’s not agendized. Commissioners can speak to the Chair or to other
members at the appropriate time, but they shouldn’t be discussing it until it’s
agendized. The Chairperson can speak to all the members about their time
commitments.
NEXT MEETING DATE
The next meeting is pending the availability of the County
Councilroom.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Mr. De Lima moved that the meeting be adjourned. The
motion was seconded by Mr. Sumja and unanimously
carried.
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Karolyn P. Lundkvist, Chair
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