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MAYOR’S COMMITTEE ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
c/o Hawai‘i County Office of Aging,
1055 Kino‘ole Street,Suite 101, Hilo, Hawai‘i 96720
MINUTES
Wednesday, October 23, 2013
The County of Hawai‘i Mayor’s Committee on People with Disabilities met at
10:10 a.m. at the Aging and Disability Resource Center at 1055 Kino‘ole Street,
Hilo, Hawai‘i 96720.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Paige De Lima, Chair, Wesley Tanigawa, Vice Chair;
Pauline Aughe, Chris Cholas, Janice Mancini, James Souza, Laura Tobosa.
ABSENT:
Jessica Arruda, Raelene Souza, Dr. Ron Wagner-Wright.
OTHERS PRESENT AND GUESTS:
Alisa Mitchener, P&R; Bill Brilhante,
Corporation Counsel; Teri Spinola-Campbell, ADA Coordinator; Alan Parker,
Aging; Sandra Arriola, Aging; Jesse Floyd, DD Council; Sam Nagasawa, Aloha
Independent Living, Hawai‘i; Karin Riedel, Bayada Home Health Care; Paul
Pascua, Joyce Imaino, Maria Hainsworth, Juliet Arnold, Julia Weaver, Ku Mei
Kern, Sign Interpreter.
CALL TO ORDER
P. De Lima
called the meeting to order at 10:10 a.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 20, 2013, MEETING
P. De Lima
called for a motion to approve the September 23, 2013 minutes.
L. TobosaW. Tanigawa
moved to accept the minutes. It was seconded by . All
approved. The minutes were accepted and approved.
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Agenda Items)
A. Mitchener
will amend her report (#8) and call it Discussion of Beach Access
Equipment and How It Is Used instead of Mobi Chair Loan Program.
NEW BUSINESS
Presentation by Tiffany Kai, Hawai‘i County Mass Transit Agency
J. Souza
Since there are a few new people in attendance, wanted everyone to
introduce themselves. Paige thanked everyone for attending the meeting.
P. Aughe
introduced and thanked guest speaker, Tiffany Kai, Mass Transit
Administrator who will be discussing the variety of services and other issues that
might arise in relation to people with disabilities and Mass Transit.
T. Kai
According to Transit is responsible for the operation of the County’s public
transit system. The agency provides the island Shared Ride Taxi Program.
Transit also licenses all taxi cab operators. This is a semi-privatized
organization. There are six County employees, and we also contract with private
vendors for bus drivers and bus services. The current contractor is Robert’s
Hawai‘i for bus drivers. As of July there was a bus fare increase which went up
to $2 for general, $1 for seniors, individuals with disabilities and students through
college. Discounted bus tickets and passes are also available. In August, there
was a mandatory ADA Training for all of the Hele-On bus drivers which was
conducted by Teri Spinola-Campbell. In addition to that, Robert’s Hawai‘i also
conducts ADA training. So together we’ll continue to offer these types of
trainings for our drivers.
T. Kai
stated for Seniors, there is no application process. You just bring in your
ID and you could purchase the discounted bus ticket or monthly bus pass. If you
are an individual with a disability, there is an application process where your
physician would complete the application; you would turn it in to us; and in turn
we will give you a disability identification card which allows you to purchase
discounted bus passes and then getting on to the bus with your identification
card and your dollar cash fare. And I believe the disability identification card is
good for two years and then you would have to go in for a renewal.
Monthly bus passes are $45 for seniors, 60+, individuals with disabilities and
C. Cholas
students. said that most people don’t usually have the kind of ready
cash that you need for an annual pass. And if they lose their card then they’re
stuck. It costs over $500 for general and $360 for others.
W. Brilhante
According to the Council approved the six month pilot program for
a semi-annual pass which goes into effect January 1 through the end of June.
The numbers and the ridership associated to those passes are going to be the
determining factor as to whether or not the Council wants to proceed with the
annual pass program. It gets down to about $30 monthly if you buy the annual
pass. If the pass is destroyed, stolen or lost, it’s not going to be refundable. And
if circumstances change, they’re also not going to be transferable. You would
have to purchase a new pass. Chris stated that makes it hard on people with
disabilities to be responsible for a card for a whole year. It’s easy for some
people to lose that card or have that stolen. I think the County Council has been
looking at that as a possible amendment.
W. Brilhante
said the County Council is the entity that sets the bus fares and
various programs. Brenda Ford is the council person in charge of Mass Transit.
Chris suggested that as a committee, maybe advise the Mayor that he
persuade
promote/getting the $30 a month pass for seniors, students and
people with disabilities.
P. Aughe
inquired about the Shared Ride Taxi program. Tiffany stated the
Shared Ride Taxi program is offered for as little as $2 to get door-to-door
services. It is taxi vouchers that an individual purchases. Then you would call
one of the participating, contracted taxi companies with the program and let them
know that you need a pickup from your residence, etc., to go to another location.
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One coupon will take you up to four miles. After four, and a limit of nine miles,
they would charge you two coupons. The thing with the Shared Ride Taxi
program, it is limited to nine miles, but it does offer the door-to-door services.
Currently we don’t have any participant who has a wheelchair accessible vehicle
although we have been trying to solicit more companies to get an accessible
vehicle. Chris feels that this is a County problem and an area that needs to be
fixed.
L. Tobosa
inquired if there was a chance that Mass Transit buses would go to
the airport to pick up people. Tiffany said that’s something that needs attention
and there may be some funding to add services to the airport. The buses are all
wheelchair accessible.
C. Cholas
stated that there is no other way to get to the airport besides taxis and
J. Floyd
wondered if that was an ADA violation. also inquired if wheelchair
accessible vehicles are required by law. According to Teri’s research, not all
taxis are required to be accessible. It was brought up that if you’re going to offer
transportation services to the general public, then some of the vehicles should be
wheelchair accessible otherwise this does not allow a certain part of the segment
of the population access to that service.
W. Brilhante
stated the other side to that would be to cancel the services. Not
being facetious, but right now there is no entity that is willing to participate in the
County Shared Ride Taxi program for disability transportation. It’s not financially
feasible for these mom and pop taxi companies. The County provides accessible
transit through the Hele-On bus service. There is no handivan service.
T. Kai
stated that what Transit does is contract with HCEOC, (Hawai‘i County
Economic Opportunity Council) to provide those types of services which is for
disabled transport and for the elderly. Transit also works closely with
Coordinated Services for the Elderly.
S. Nagasawa
has clients that receive those services and sometimes HCEOC
doesn’t show up. There aren’t enough vans and drivers and it creates a problem
too. They miss medical appointments because the agency that’s supposed to
provide that service is unable to. It’s with HCEOC and Coordinated Services.
W. Brilhante
requested to be notified if problems like that are occurring, because
Transit is assuming they’re operating the way it should be operating. The County
is paying significant sums of money to HCEOC to provide the services, and if
they’re not providing the services, we have to be able to know what services
aren’t being provided, what’s happening, what’s taking place, what’s going on.
So if you can provide that information to the Transit Agency, that would be very
helpful. Now we know that there’s always an issue of availability.
T. Kai
informed Sam to have her clients contact her at the Mass Transit Agency
at 961-8343. Tiffany will also get back to the committee regarding the amount of
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accessible vehicles HCEOC has although she believes they are required to have
at least twelve.
C. Cholas
thanked Tiffany and is grateful that there has been a lot of progress.
The Shared Ride Taxi program has proven to be really helpful. Having lifts on
the buses on the Hele-On is great. Back in 1997 there was only one bus with lifts
and you had to call and find out when it would come around your area. So I think
when we’re talking about pukas in the programs, we’re still seeing there are
needs like getting to the airport or having more wheelchair accessible means for
getting around for individuals.
W.
One thing as being the attorney assigned to the Transportation Commission,
Brilhante
says the Transportation Commission is ultimately the entity that
approves these taxi licenses or certificates. And that’s one of the things that the
commissioners always raise is the possibility of a new applicant, a new taxi cab
operator providing or engaging or agree to engage in the Shared Ride Taxi
program and especially the issue of providing disability transportation. It’s a
primary area that gets discussed with every applicant that comes in front of the
board.
From what I see on my side is that it’s hard to regulate a private entity when it
comes to just the taxi cab operator. Where do you set the standards of the
regulations to ensure that that van will meet all the possible uses for an ADA
accessible vehicle? That’s the concern. Right now there’s nothing on the books
as it relates to that. Maybe that’s something that needs to be ferreted out, or a
more detailed look to be placed to that issue. The County relies heavily on
HCEOC and those vehicles associated with that entity as it relates to its disability
transit. I hope you don’t get the sense that the County or the Transit Agency is
opposed to providing disability accessible transportation. That’s one of the areas
that we’re always looking to provide better service for.
P. AugheT. Kai
had some questions about the Shared Ride Taxi program which
and W. Brilhante
answered. Besides the vouchers, Mass Transit supplements
the rest of the cost for the taxi. There is a contract that’s made between the taxi
cab and the County Mass Transit. Pauline was wondering if when they are
applying, maybe say to be contracted with the County, in five years or so, we
would like to see this progress moving forward and the standard used is ADA
W. Brilhante
accessible taxi cabs. According to the problem is that participation
in the shared ride program is voluntary. We can’t force any operator to
participate in that program. So, if the operator looks at it and as a private
business person, determines this is not financially feasible, they will not
participate. The fact is that we’re losing more participants or operators as
opposed to people wanting to sign up.
J. Mancini
wanted to know if incentives are offered. Bill stated that the fares are
subsidized, but not for obtaining a wheelchair accessible vehicle which Pauline
inquired about.
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A. Parker
stated that the handi lift service was started in 1985. We got a call
from Sally Wehrsig at Easter Seals. We got a grant and the van driver. So we
went into partnership with HCEOC and we got police radios from the Police
Department, a van, and we started a handi lift service. We got it up to about
three to four vans, and personnel and turned it over to Mass Transit. Over the
years, the program was transferred to Coordinated Services and that’s why
Coordinated Services continues to have vehicles that are wheelchair accessible.
The County has made a lot of effort to address this issue. Transportation is the
number one problem in every district on this island. No transportation system is
able to sustain itself without huge subsidies from the government. All our 501C’s
are barely surviving. It’s a really, really tough time. And so Transit has been
working with us for all these years and really trying to do something. We need to
get together and advocate. We need subsidies. There is no way the County is
going to be able to come up with the funds to do this kind of program. That’s why
every community has to rely on Federal subsidizes from various Federal
agencies. So, it’s becoming huge. People are living longer. That’s another
challenge to transportation. We’re going to be working more closely with Transit
Office as well and trying to get some support from that organization I told you
about, National Association on Area Agencies on Aging and Easter Seals
nationwide. We need to try to pool the disability and different groups together,
working with Transit, working with Aging, and trying to see what the solutions are
for these issues. Hopefully we will come up with solutions in the not too far
future. We’re trying.
Bus stops
C. Cholas
stated that there are a lot of new bus stops and they are wheelchair
accessible. He wanted to know if people can give their input on where a bus
stop might be placed or if they have an access issue. Tiffany said when there
are requests, they look at the ridership numbers at that stop also. Bill wanted
everyone to know that the county operates on a flag stop system. So outside of
the bus stops (44 bus shelters) the majority of the stops are just flag stops and
they are on the request of the rider. And those are the ones that can be
dangerous according to Chris. We need to have bus stops that are safe to get
on and off, and they have to be placed where people are going and the access is
there; and knowing where the bus routes are in relation to parks and recreation
areas so people can enjoy those facilities.
T. Spinola-Campbell
inquired about the process for a visually impaired person.
Tiffany stated people who have vision impairment will call and inform Transit of
where they’re going to be and then we in turn let the driver know to watch for that
particular bus rider. When the rider boards the bus, he or she will inform the
driver where they would like to get off and they will make that stop
announcement.
It was stated that some of HCEOC’s vehicles might be broken down and they
might be short on drivers, so that it seems like the demand is higher than what
they can provide. The question about who is overlooking the safety of all the
vehicles. Tiffany stated that safety inspection is done annually, but HCEOC is
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responsible to ensure that their vehicles are in safe operational condition. Alan
stated they are governed by PUC. Tiffany said there is also a different type of
inspection with that. It’s more specific and more detailed or extensive as far as
the safety of the vehicles.
A. Mitchener
thanked Tiffany for providing transportation coupons for the
volunteers for the Mobi Mat Beach project so they could come and help lay the
mats out. She inquired if the buses go through all the community park centers as
part of their route. Tiffany stated that they don’t go by all of the community parks
but they do go by a number them.
Alisa mentioned that in Pahoa, at the Makuu Farmer’s Market there is the Park
and Ride kind of thing going on where people come and park their cars and catch
the bus to go into town which saves them a lot on transportation costs. So that
becomes kind of a community hub for catching the bus. So those things are
happening out in the rural communities. I wanted to know if you would like help
or if you have some kind of an orientation for the public on transportation training
for people with disabilities. Tiffany said there wasn’t anything like that.
K. Riedel
would appreciate more advertisement regarding things like Park and
Ride which encourages the public. Tiffany agreed and responded that actually in
Pahoa at the Makuu Park and Ride facility, there were two dedications to that
facility. So whenever we do have a new Park and Ride available we do put it out
there for the community and the public.
S. Nagasawa
had a concern about taxi drivers charging disabled, elderly folks
that use the shared ride taxi coupons a dollar for each shopping bag. Tiffany
said they do charge a dollar for carry-on items and that there is also a charge for
bags and groceries on the transit system.
W. Brilhante
wanted to clarify that, they may charge a fee but if the person has a
disability and there is a necessity for maybe a cart or less bags, then the fee is
supposed to be waived by the operator.
T. Kai
thanked everyone for having her at the meeting and providing her with
their concerns and suggestions.
T. Spinola-Campbell
stated that Easter Seals project action specializes in
transportation services for people with disabilities. And I’ve noticed that twice a
year they offer special resources for people interested in rural transportation and
how to get better transportation services for people with disabilities for rural
providers. If there is anyone interested in working on that in particular for this
island, it might be worthwhile.
J. Souza
praised his interpreter saying she is doing a really good job and he
wanted to point out that she is very talented.
BREAK – 11:10 – 11:25
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Paige called the meeting back to order.
ACCESS AD HOC COMMITTEE
Review and Approval of a Thank You Letter to the Police Department
Letter to the Police Chief was read by Pauline.
There was discussion on the corrections they wanted to make on the letter and a
new one will be forthcoming.
W. Tanigawa
made a motion to accept the letter with corrections. It was
C. Cholas
seconded by . All were in favor. None opposed.
Discussion on the Committee’s Findings with County Services – Police
Department, Mass Transit Agency and Public Works Department
The members were surprised that Sgt. Pauole didn’t really know that much about
the process for disabled parking. He didn’t know about the ID cards, how and
when the placards are used. It was a surprise that he didn’t know that everybody
that has a placard has to carry an ID card. It seemed like they weren’t very
educated on the program at all. And it didn’t seem like they were doing citations.
T. Spinola-Campbell
stated that she does ADA and law enforcement classes for
recruits and includes the HRS regarding the disabled parking. Teri read the
comments where Sgt. Pauole said that he is constantly writing grants and wasn’t
that involved in the enforcement of disabled parking violations. That’s probably
why he is not that informed about it. Teri did see an officer go over to someone
parked in a stall and ask for ID so some officers do understand the process.
T. Spinola-Campbell
suggested that it would be a great project for the
committee to put together a training packet and offer it to the police and other law
enforcement and private security.
P. De Lima
felt there should be more incentive to go out and issue a citation,
because $250 is a significant amount, and people getting that won’t be so happy
about paying it. I thought they are very sensitive towards people with disabilities
but I think that they need to be educated so that they feel comfortable about
asking to see their ID card. And once word goes out that someone got a ticket, it
might deter people from parking when they are not supposed to.
J. Floyd
mentioned that maybe Bill Nakamatsu from DCAB could come over and
give a training about the placard and the state law regarding that. At the last
meeting, Jesse had a question about Art Nakayama and his role as security - Art
Nakayama is from Public Works, Traffic’s Division, and he does issue tickets in
County parking lot, and Downtown Hilo.
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Transportation letter
Pauline asked for any input from the committee to go into the thank you letter to
Mass Transit:
It was decided to put in some of the things discussed - review of HCEOC, the
best way to get discounted fares, improving Shared Ride Taxi services,
transportation for people in wheelchairs, public transportation to the airport, the
need for handivan service. Bill suggested that since accessible transit service to
the airport is challenging, state the need for further consideration to the possibility
of the Hele–On bus providing service to the airport.
REPORT OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAI‘I EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFICER
AND ADA COORDINATOR, TERI SPINOLA-CAMPBELL
T. Spinola-Campbell’s
Attached is report.
DISCUSSION OF THE BEACH ACCESS EQUIPMENT AND HOW IT IS USED,
BY THE COUNYT OF HAWAI‘I ADA RECREATION SPECIALIST, ALISA
MITCHENER
A. Mitchener
clarified that Recreation does not currently have a mobi chair loan
program but this is basically a discussion to share and discuss beach access
equipment and how it’s currently used. It’s not the equipment that is important,
but it’s the team. Alisa had a slide show depicting different kinds of equipment
that people are using - mobi mats (purchased in 2008), surf day, different
equipments and volunteers, new hybrid mobi chair, Richardson Beach Park,
Kahalu‘u, Snorkel Day, access routes, all terrain vehicles, how nature is
changing the shoreline. Manpower kicks in – volunteers recreated the pond
structure. That shows the value of collaboration. Parks and Recreation was
working with Deep and Beyond in Kona for Snorkel Day. She offered her
assistance to the committee with any research or any more information about the
programs that exist here. Each beach is different, each island is different. Each
way that you solve beach access is different. So just because it’s happening in
one area doesn’t mean it will happen exactly the same way. Thank you.
K. Riedel
stated that Paul really enjoyed himself – he was very happy with the
chair. He could easily transfer in it and the staff was wonderful. He was able to
get out to the water and float.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Jesse - The East Hawai‘i DD Committee meeting is here on November 21,
10:30-12.
Karin - Feeling Safe, Being Safe training is on December 6, from 10:00 a.m. to
Noon at the ADRC. This is for emergency preparedness.
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NEXT MEETING
The next meeting is November 20, at the ADRC Training Room at 10:00 a.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 12:20.
Respectfully submitted,
Sandra Arriola
Transcriber
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