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COST OF GOVERNMENT COMMISSION
c/o Office of the Corporation Counsel, 101 Aupuni Street, Suite 325,
Hilo, Hawai‘i 96720
MINUTES – As Amended
Thursday, February 20, 2014 – 9:00 a.m.
Puna Conference Room – County Building
25 Aupuni Street, Suite 1501
Hilo, Hawai`i 96720
Commission Members present:
Susan Maddox, Chair
Ashley Kierkiewicz, Vice Chair
Doug Espejo
Glen Mastuda
Delan Perry
John Mitchell
Linda M. Kelly
Also present:
Wally Lau, Managing Director, ex-officio member
Katherine A. Garson, Assistant Corporation Counsel
Jennifer M. Kualii, Secretary
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Wally Lau at 9:05 a.m.
Mr. Lau introduced himself as the ex-officio member of the commission and
thanked the commissioners for giving up their time, energy and talents to serve on this
commission. He stated all commissions are important because they serve the
community which is the people of this island. He stated he came to Hawai‘i Island
about 15 years ago after working for Kamehameha Schools and wanted to spend more
time with family and enjoying the beauty of this island. He started a little non-profit on
the West side and wanted to give back to the community. He believes that healthy
families make healthy communities and one way to do that is getting involved.
2. INTRODUCTION OF COMMISSIONERS
Mr. Lau suggested the commissioners introduce themselves.
Mr. Espejo is retired and has lived here most of his life. He plays music and is
active in sports. He’s been on the Transportation Commission for about 10 years and
is looking for ways to streamline government.
Hawai‘i County is an Equal Opportunity Provider and Employer
Ms. Kierkiewicz was born and raised in Hilo and this is her first commission. She
serves on the Economic Development Board and Zonta Club of Hilo. She’s driven to
serve the community and eager to learn and offer her wisdom.
Mr. Mitchell is a Social Studies teacher at Kealakehe High School for the past 10
years. He is originally from Orange County and is currently on the Board for his church
and plays bass on the worship team. He brings his legal, real estate background and
looks forward to help the community and this Island.
Mr. Matsuda is a retired tax auditor from the Labor Department. He served on
the Fire Commission and the past Cost of Government Commission. He is active with
the PTA, Jaycees and Lion’s Club. He’s looking forward to see what he can do to add
to the primary goal of the commission.
Ms. Maddox serves as the executive team leader of a non-profit based in
Waimea called Friends of the Future. She’s lived in Hawai‘i for 45 years and is hoping
her non-profit background will be of use for this commission as it looks at different ways
to better serve the community.
Ms. Kelly has been in Hawai‘i for 22 years and has been a real estate broker for
30 years. She is originally from Canada and is of native American Indian, French and
Irish decent. She is happy to serve and give back to the community.
Mr. Perry was born on Oahu and moved to the Big Island in 1974. He currently
is a farmer and manager of the Kino‘ole Farmers Market. He currently serves on the
Water Board and has been on the Workforce Investment Board for about 10 years. He
brings his agricultural experience to the commission.
Mr. Lau thanked everyone for sharing and said that everyone has some great
connections to make healthy conversations and that this commission will not be a canoe
that just paddles around in circles.
3. STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
None.
4. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
(Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson)
Mr. Lau asked if there were any nominations for Chairperson.
Motion and Vote
: Ms. Kelly moved to nominate Ms. Maddox as Chairperson.
Mr. Matsuda seconded the motion. Nominations were closed and all commissioners
present voted aye to elect Ms. Maddox as Chairperson.
Mr. Lau stated Ms. Maddox can now carry on with the agenda.
(Mr. Lau leaves the meeting at 9:23 a.m.)
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Ms. Garson advised Ms. Maddox there needs to be a nomination for vice
chairperson.
Mr. Matsuda nominated Ms. Kierkiewicz for Vice-Chairperson.
Ms. Kierkiewicz nominated Mr. Matsuda
Ms. Kelly seconded Ms. Kierkiewicz’s nomination of Mr. Matsuda.
Mr. Matsuda declines nomination.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Matsuda moved to nominate Ms. Kierkiewicz as Vice-
Chairperson. Ms. Kelly seconded the motion. Nominations were closed and all
commissioners present voted aye to elect Ms. Kierkiewicz as Vice-Chairperson.
5. PRESENTATION REGARDING COMMISSION FINANCES AND GENERAL
OVERVIEW OF COUNTY FINANCES
Ms. Garson introduced Deanna Sako, Deputy Director of the Finance
Department to provide the commissioners with a general overview of the County’s
finances.
Ms. Sako provided each commissioner a one-page handout on guidelines for
boards and commissions members regarding mileage, reimbursement and other travel
expenses.
Ms. Sako also provided each commissioner with the County of Hawai‘i’s
Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for the Fiscal Year July 1, 2012 to June 30,
2013.
6. PRESENTATION ON SUNSHINE LAW, PROTOCOL
Ms. Garson gave a Powerpoint presentation and provided each commissioner a
copy of her presentation “The Sunshine Law”.
7. PRESENTATION REGARDING DUTIES OF COST OF GOVERNMENT
COMMISSION AND APPROACH TAKEN BY PREVIOUS COST OF
GOVERNMENT COMMISSIONS
Ms. Garson gave a Powerpoint presentation and provided each commissioner a
copy of her presentation “Duties of the Cost of Government Commission”.
8. DISCUSSION OF ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF THE
HAWAI‘I COUNTY COST OF GOVERNMENT COMMISSION (Filed with the
County Clerk on 01-31-03)
Ms. Garson stated the 2003 Cost of Government Commission did pass some
procedural rules which talked about when regular meetings would be held. At this point,
if the commission doesn’t have anything to propose, this item could be placed on hold.
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She informed the commission that for rule making purposes, the commission would
have to hold public hearings, publish it and then submit for approval. Mr. Matsuda
noted that since the meetings were set for the first and third Thursdays, in order to
change that it, it would have to be the decision of the body.
Ms. Garson affirmed and noted the commission would have to give proper notice.
9. DISCUSSION/ACTION REGARDING APPROACH TO TAKE TO TIMELY
ACCOMPLISH MANDATE OF THE COST OF GOVERNMENT COMMISSION
Ms. Garson stated a report will need to be completed in 11 months pursuant to
the County Charter.
Ms. Maddox wondered if anything had been implemented from the previous
commission because she noted some carried over and if this commission’s time would
be better served looking in other areas to move more quickly.
Ms. Garson stated one of the first things the last Cost of Government
Commission did was send a letter to everyone. Two letters went out, one went to those
who had previous recommendations and ones that didn’t. She stated the commission
could do that again, send out letters to all department heads and boards and
commissions and ask them what was done with their previous recommendation and
respond by a certain date.
Ms. Maddox noted the letters looked good but it didn’t say what came back or
whether or not the recommendations were implemented.
Mr. Mitchell stated this is half of what the commission wants.
Ms. Kelly stated if the commission already has the answers, it would just be
copied.
Ms. Garson replied that it came from the last commission.
Ms. Maddox inquired that when the letters were sent out with what the
recommendations were, did the departments and boards and commissions respond and
share what they implemented or not?
Ms. Kierkiewicz stated essentially this commission wants to know if what the last
commission recommended was implemented. The departments could respond by a
certain date and the commission could schedule follow-up meetings to interview the
departments.
Ms. Garson stated that could be done now. She also said the commission could
decide how they would want the report done; the last commission outlined in their report
the procedure they followed and what they did. The letters can be sent out but the
commission has to authorize the Chairperson to sign those letters.
Ms. Maddox asked if the communication could be online.
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Ms. Garson replied it could be by email.
Ms. Maddox wondered if it was open for employees to comment back online
using something like Survey Monkey.
Ms. Garson stated the employees can communicate with the board’s secretary.
She could collect all the responses and provide them to the commissioners.
Ms. Maddox stated she was thinking about how information could be gathered to
allow people anonymity and allow the commission to structure questions that could
bring back answers to be analyzed.
Ms. Garson stated previous letters said the prior Cost of Government
Commission issued a report on a certain date and in that report the Cost of Government
Commission made the following recommendations for your department and to advise
the commission if your department implemented those recommendations and if it wasn’t
implemented to state why.
Ms. Kierkiewicz asked if the commission could add to that and ask the
departments how they could be more efficient and the challenges they would face.
Mr. Matsuda stated the last commission wasn’t getting very good timely
responses.
Ms. Garson noted the last commission spent a lot of time trying to figure out what
were essential services. She suggested inviting department heads to the meetings to
make presentations at which time follow up questions could be asked.
Mr. Matsuda stated they had meetings at the Managing Director’ office and was
surprised to see how much monies were going to DEM and that he’s seen some
changes at the landfill. He said there are a lot of different avenues to explore in various
departments. The commission needs to go through the previous reports, brainstorm
and come up with a questionnaire that can be applicable to everyone.
Ms. Maddox noted that Mr. Perry is interested in the energy question and that
would be something that would go across all departments.
Mr. Matsuda agreed.
Ms. Kierkiewicz asked if the commission wants to give the departments an option
to respond via letter or make a presentation.
Mr. Matsuda stated the last commission had committees that were tasked with
certain departments.
Ms. Maddox asked Mr. Matsuda what things he thought was really effective if
they were changed.
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Mr. Matsuda replied that the commission waited a long time for responses from
various departments. He thinks the first letter that should go out would be something
generic, basically saying what the commission is doing and its concerns. Mr. Matsuda
also stated that some departments came and did presentations on a particular subject
to give the commission an oversight of the department and the commissioners were
able to ask questions then.
Ms. Garson stated the generic letters were sent out and when the responses
came back some of the commissioners wanted to follow up with the departments and
invited them to the meeting.
Motion and Vote : Mr. Perry moved to have the commission send a letter to all
the departments that had specific recommendations from the last Cost of Government
Commission and authorize Ms. Maddox to sign that letter. Mr. Mitchell seconded the
motion and all commissioners present voted aye.
Ms. Garson noted that notices were sent to all employees with their paychecks.
Ms. Maddox stated some of the best ideas come from the ones that are on the
ground working everyday and even if you get one or two recommendations
implemented it grows from there.
Ms. Garson stated the notice to employees has two simple questions, 1) how can
the County save money while not compromising essential services and 2) how
government can function more efficiently. She said the commission can also change
the questions in the notice to employees.
Ms. Maddox said she would consider rewording as the questions now are both
yes/no questions and would also like the notice to go out to all employees.
Ms. Garson suggested asking, what ideas do you have for the County to save
money while not compromising essential services.
Motion and Vote: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to have a letter sent to all employees
asking them ways the County can save money without compromising essential services
and ways the County can function more efficiently. Ms. Kelly seconded the motion and
all commissioners present voted aye.
Ms. Garson clarified that the letter to employees and the letter to departments
with previous recommendations have already been discussed and agreed upon. She
asked the commission to review the prior letter to department heads which asked them
to list the primary functions and services of their departments or commissions, what
opportunities could be consolidated and ways to enhance revenue.
Ms. Maddox said that last time, departments got two letters a month apart;
1) asking what their functions are and; 2) what did they do with their previous
recommendations. She asked if it was possible to combine these two questions into
one letter.
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Mr. Perry suggested asking the departments what is on their wish list.
Ms. Kierkiewicz suggested including items 2-5 (from the previous letter to
department heads) in addition to their recommendations from the last report.
Ms. Kelly asked Mr. Matsuda if he thought the commission would have a better
reply if the departments do a presentation.
Mr. Matsuda replied it depends on scheduling and time constraints because one
department is probably going to take up an entire meeting.
Ms. Kelly stated that’s probably why the sub-committees were created.
Ms. Kierkiewicz stated she liked that approach and the commission should use
their time to analyze the information gathered and come up with recommendations.
Ms. Kelly noted she would like to have the departments provide a one page
summary of their implementation of their recommendations so that there would be no
misinterpretation. She stated it would provide clarification and transparency.
Ms. Kierkieweicz stated the commission could give the department heads an
option of either responding in writing or meet with them. She would rather meet with
them and hear what they have to say but not require the department heads to create
a one page summary.
Mr. Mitchell noted he felt uncomfortable with requiring the department heads to
provide a summary.
Mr. Espejo stated the letters should be kept simple and inform them of the
commission’s charge. Ms. Kelly agreed and stated she likes the simplicity of the letters.
Ms. Kierkiewicz clarified that for the departments where no recommendations
were made, the commission would be sending a letter asking them for suggestions.
Ms. Kelly stated that’s the third letter.
Ms. Maddox clarified that Mr. Espejo wanted to be consistent across all of the
letters so the responses are also consistent with the commission’s charge rather than
creating different questions for departments. Ms. Kelly agreed; she stated the letter to
the department heads and commissions should include if their recommendations were
implemented as well as the four simple questions.
Motion and Vote
: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to include in all of the letters the
following four questions:
1) limiting expenditures to the lowest amount consistent with the efficient
performance of essential services, activities and functions;
2) eliminating duplication and overlapping of services, activities and functions;
3) consolidating services, activities and functions of a similar nature; and
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4) abolishing services, activities and functions not necessary to the efficient
conduct of government.
Ms. Kelly seconded the motion and all commissioners present voted aye.
Ms. Maddox stated there was a notion of sub-committees and the ability to
individually look at particular departments. Mr. Matsuda stated it was good to have two
people because what one person didn’t think of the other person did.
Ms. Maddox asked the commission for their thoughts.
Ms. Kierkiewicz and Mr. Mitchell liked the idea of teams.
Ms. Kelly asked if the sub-committee meetings with the department could be
audio recorded. Mr. Mitchell stated not everyone would like that and Mr. Matsuda
agreed but said he would go with the majority.
Ms. Kelly asked if a report of the meeting with the department heads were turned
in to the commission. Mr. Matsuda replied it was all verbal.
Ms. Kierkiewicz asked if the commissioners are going to break up into sub-
committees and would the sub-committees be responsible for producing a write-up for
the rest of the commissioners to work off of. Mr. Matsuda stated there wasn’t any
difficulty coming up with notes and discussing what was discussed with the individual
departments and it was presented to the commission that way.
Ms. Garson commented that some sub-committees passed out a report. She
also noted that if the sub-committees wanted their meetings recorded, they should invite
the departments to the commission meeting since it is already being recorded.
Ms. Maddox confirmed that the commission wanted to have sub-committees.
She stated the commissioners should be thinking about questions to ask the
departments and bring it back to the next meeting for discussion. She also asked the
commissioners to read the previous reports before the next meeting and discuss what
would be a high priority on where the commission should start and focus on to develop
a strategy for going forward.
(Break: 11:38 a.m. – 11:48 a.m.)
10. ITEMS TO BE PLACE ON THE NEXT AGENDA
Ms. Maddox stated the standing agenda items would be:
Call the meeting to order
Statements from the public
Discussion/action regarding approach to take to timely accomplish
mandate of the Cost of Government Commission
Items to be placed on the next agenda
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Other items to be placed on the next agenda:
Discussion of past reports
Assignment/action of sub-committees
Ms. Garson suggested if the commissioners wanted the departments to do a
presentation, the departments could be invited to the meeting and give a generic report.
Mr. Perry suggested the Energy Advisory. Ms. Kierkiewicz suggested the Department
of Environmental Management.
Ms. Maddox stated that for the next meeting, the commissioners are going to
bring to the table questions that would go across all departments. Ms. Kelly commented
she liked the idea of generic questions the sub-committees can use to interview the
departments.
Ms. Maddox stated that at this point, the commission would not hear from anyone
but would be doing their internal organization.
Mr. Mitchell stated he liked the clean focus; the commissioners have a lot on their
plate for the next two weeks to digest all this information and hopes that in this small
amount of time, this commission can bring some positive change.
11. DISCUSSION REGARDING LOCATIONS/DATES/TIMES OF FUTURE
MEETINGS/VIDEOCONFERENCING
Ms. Kelly noted she will be off island for the next meeting and asked if the
commission would be able to move the next meeting. Mr. Mitchell replied he’s flexible.
Ms. Maddox will not be available; the first and third Thursdays work, but any other
Thursdays she has standing commitments. Mr. Perry stated he will be out of state for
April 3 meeting.
Mr. Matsuda asked if anyone had objections to having future meetings start at
1:00 in the afternoon. Ms. Kierkiewiecz stated she prefers afternoon as she has a
standing meeting every Thursday morning. Mr. Perry noted after 10:00 a.m. works.
Ms. Kelly noted she’s fine with the afternoon.
Ms. Kierkiewicz stated the commission could use videoconferencing and asked if
the meetings could last 2, no more that 2 ½ hours? Ms. Garson replied it’s up to the
commission.
Ms. Maddox stated if the commissioners agreed to do their homework and come
prepared for discussion and action at the meetings, she would certainly hold the
meetings to task.
Mr. Mitchell asked if meetings could be held on the Kona side. Ms. Garson
replied we will explore what venues are available. Mr. Espejo noted that the
commission could meet in Waimea as well.
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Ms. Garson asked if video conferencing would be optimal; however if connection
is lost, the meeting is over. Ms. Maddox replied it would be practical. She also said that
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the commission is going to stay with March 6 at 1:00 p.m. for the next meeting.
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Ms. Kelly noted that since she won’t be here for the March 6 meeting, she does want
to participate and be assigned to a sub-committee. Ms. Garson asked Ms. Kelly if there
was a particular area she was interested in. Ms. Kelly replied no, she would have to
review the reports in more detail. Ms. Kelly suggested that committees be created as
A, B, C and D with no designated person and be assigned specific departments or
commissions and assign commissioners to those committees. Mr. Matsuda commented
that Ms. Kelly could jump in with any committee or pick one; she won’t be left out.
Ms. Maddox stated there are more than enough departments and board and
commission for all commissioners to be active in. She asked Ms. Kelly if she’s
comfortable with that. Ms. Kelly replied yes.
12. ANNOUNCEMENTS
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Ms. Maddox announced the next meeting will be held on March 6, 1:00 p.m. at
the Office of Aging.
13. ADJOURNMENT
Motion and Vote:
Mr. Matsuda moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Mitchell and all commissioners present voted aye.
Meeting adjourned at 12:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
/s/ Jennifer M. Kualii
Jennifer M. Kualii, Secretary
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