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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014-09-04 Hearing Transcript-Mayor - GAF Study WINDWARD PLANNING COMMISSION COUNTY OF HAWAI‘I HEARING TRANSCRIPT SEPTEMBER 4, 2014 discussion and action on a claim for the release of funds A regularly advertised hearing on the from the Geothermal Asset Fund (Claimant: Office of the Mayor) regarding the Geothermal Public Health Study was called to order at 1:25 p.m. in the County of Hawai‘i Aupuni Center Conference Room, 101 Aupuni Street, Hilo, Hawai‘i with Chairman Myles Miyasato presiding. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Myles Miyasato, Charles Heaukulani, Gregory Henkel, and Raylene Moses. ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Stephen Ono. ALSO PRESENT: Duane Kanuha (Planning Director), Margaret Masunaga (Deputy Corporation Counsel for the Windward Planning Commission), William Brilhante (Deputy Corporation Counsel for the Planning Director) from 1:02 p.m., Daryn Arai (Planning Program Manager), Jeff Darrow (Staff Planner), Maija Jackson (Staff Planner), to 6:30 p.m., Christian Kay (Staff Planner), Sarah Hata-Finley (Commission Secretary), Kim Tanaka (Secretary), to 4:30 p.m., and Melissa Dacayanan (Planning Commission Support Technician), to 4:30 p.m. And approximately 47 people from the public in attendance. CLAIMANT: OFFICE OF THE MAYOR Discussion and action on a claim for the release of funds from the Geothermal Asset Fund that includes a recommendation from the claims adjuster, for the following community approved geothermal impact mitigation project: Geothermal Public Health Study - $750,000 a. Funding to conduct a public health study of up to three years to determine if there are health effects on Puna residents that can be linked to geothermal energy development that will focus on effects on central nervous system, respiratory and anxiety disorder symptom functions. MIYASATO: Okay, we have Item 6 from the Office of the Mayor. Discussion and action on the claim for the release of funding from the Geothermal Asset Fund. ARAI: Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman. What you have before you today is a claim for the release of funds from the Mayor’s office to secure those funds from the Geothermal Asset Fund that includes a recommendation from the claims adjuster for a—to allow the Mayor’s office to conduct a public health study of up to three years to determine if there are health effects on Puna residents that can be linked to geothermal energy development that will focus on effects on central nervous system, respiratory, and anxiety disorder symptom functions. In accordance with your Geothermal Asset Fund Rule, Rule No. 12, the claim that was filed by the Mayor’s office 1 EXHIBIT F was provided to the approved claim adjuster, John Mullen & Co. Their review and recommendation is detailed in a letter to the Commission dated July 31, 2014, which is, what was provided to you earlier within your package. Based on that recommendation, the Planning Director recommends that the Windward Planning Commission accept the claim adjusters recommendation and to award $750,000 from the Geothermal Asset Fund to conduct a geothermal public health study as it appears fair, reasonable, and appropriate to the description of the claim and will benefit a majority of Puna residents most directly affected by the activity permitted or not permitted by Geothermal Resource Permit No. 2. So, I stand ready to answer any question the Commission may have. And, oh I—I’m sorry. I failed to mention. We have received a number of comments and testimonies submitted from the public, and I’ll go over them very, very quickly just to identify who provided these comments. First is from Elisabeth Green. We have another, an email from Lindy Fischer. Third, we have an email from David Kaiser. Fourth, an email from Andrea Anixt. I’m sorry if I mispronounced it. Fifth is from Lyla Marquez. Also, another email from Gary Zamber. Another email from Harry Jim. Another email from Darla Cash. And, finally just received this afternoon is an article regarding, “Gold, Silver and Other Metals in Scale” provided by a, I believe it’s a Haley Baldwin. With that, I do stand ready at this time to answer any questions. HEAUKULANI: Daryn, I just wanted to make sure that the, the number, the balance in the fund that’s set forth in our briefing is, is correct. ARAI: Excuse me. The amount was also described in the, in the claim adjuster’s report. Sure, anyway, the fund was identified as $1.965 million with an annual payment of $50,000 from the, from PGV, or the industry I should say. HEAUKULANI: And that number’s accurate today? ARAI: Yes. MIYAMOTO: Any further questions? If not, for public testimony, I’ll bring up four at a time, swear you in. State your name and residence before your testimony, and you’ll have three minutes each. So, can we have a—coming from this seat this way—Jon Olson, Renē Siracusa, Gregory Smith, and Joyce Folena. Could you please raise your right hands? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission. TESTIFIERS: I do. MIYAMOTO: Okay, thank you. Mr. Olson, you go first. OLSON: Thank you. My name is Jon Olson, and I reside at 13-631 Leilani Avenue, Pāhoa, 96778. I was there for the well cleanouts. I was there for the KS-7. I was there for the blowout of KS-8 and numerous other ventings that have gone on for the past 25 years, give or take. I hope that you are going to provide the funding necessary for this to move forward which is not to say I don’t have concerns. The adequacy of the funding for a project of this scope, and the type of opposition that is going to be—is going to be substantial. We’re taking on the oil and gas 2 EXHIBIT F industry; the wastewater industry; the meat packing industry; and several other chemical manufacturing processes that emits substantial quantities of H2S. I worked with Dr. Legator when he was here as part of his five community across the United States epidemiological survey. Dr. Legator was one of the premier epidemiologists in the world at the time that he showed up to do this study. And the kind of flack that he took came all the way from Washington. He completed the study. He is deceased now. This is not going to be a small undertaking. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if we lived in Europe. European union does not allow the kinds of levels that we’re allowed in the United States in terms of exposure to H2S. It is well understood. Don’t be surprised if they come back for more money. They’re probably going to need it. Thank you. SIRACUSA: Renē Siracusa, 15-167 South Road, Kaohe Homesteads, Pāhoa, Hawai‛i 96778. I’ve taken a break from evacuating to come here and talk to you. I was—I remember when the asset fund was formed, and the most important to my mind and the primary purpose of the fund was to “mitigate negative impacts from geothermal development.” But it never stated what those negative impacts were. As I see it, there could be two types of impacts. One is to property, and one is to people. I don’t think there’s anything else around that it could be, one or the other. So, the, the problem with the way it was drawn out, one of the problems, was that the fund required the use of a claims adjuster. But, in order to, and claims adjusters can, can make valuations on, on property, that’s what they’re trained for. They don’t have the skills or the training to make these kinds of evaluations on health impacts on people and the community. And that’s one of the reasons that we need this health fund, this study. There have been studies in the past, the Legator studies checked, studied central nervous effects. It didn’t study anything to do with, with reproductive problems in women or with respiratory problems or like that. It wasn’t the complete study. It was criticized because of that. It was also criticized because the control group was later discovered to be really another impacted group, not as impacted as the immediate neighbors, but still they were downwind. And that was Hawaiian Beaches. So, you know, what we really need, in order for us to make decisions, and make adequate decisions about the health and, and of the community, and to, and to in order to impact, mitigate the impact, is to have a proper health study that everyone knows was done properly, impartially, and totally pono. A study that is complete. And this is what the working group recommended. I sat on that working group although I’m not testifying for them. I’m testifying for Malama O Puna. I think it would benefit everybody in the community and agencies who have to make recommendations. I think everyone needs to know exactly what’s happening there, and requesting that you approve this appropriation from the asset fund. Thank you. SMITH: Gregory Todd Smith, 13-1263 Kahukai Street, Pāhoa, Hawai‛i, Leilani Estates. This is 30 years in coming. This community was basically abandoned by State regulatory agencies as well as the County of Hawai‛i agencies. Basically, the State brought in, hoping to bring in geothermal development on the health, safety, and lives of the people. At State level, we do not have any protection whatsoever against the excesses of this type of industry whatsoever. We don’t even have contested case hearing rights. Those were taken away I think in 1997. There’s no other industry in the State of Hawai‛i that has that type of protection against scrutiny from the public as well as redress for our, you know, for our concerns. This has to happen. We are now actually being threatened by more geothermal development. We do not have any base studies, either on the quality of our land, our water, our air, nothing. We have people living on 3 EXHIBIT F catchment. Our water supply can be threatened by these, by these discharges from the plant. These toxic discharges. We’ve had the recent blowout again, third time in three years, that people have been negatively affected. The State, nor the County, nor even the EPA has ever come down and truly done anything to investigate our concerns. We—a neighbor of ours—we met in Walmart yesterday while we were doing our business here in Hilo, and she was having a hard time breathing the night of the blowout, the night of the hurricane, or I mean the night of the hurricane. And, she could not get out. And what was told to her was well we can’t get you out, so she had to wait 12 hours. She finally got out to get medical treatment, and a friend of ours, a young man and his family, were actually told by the Fire Department, on Leilani Boulevard that guess what? You can’t get out of here because of the fallen trees. The young man, of course, is a trucker and a heavy equipment operator. He had his three quarter ton truck with his two-year old son in the front seat, daughter excuse me, and he told the Fire Department, well guess what, I’m going around. He took his family of six, up Leilani Boulevard, with his chainsaw, chainsaw to pass through, with his chains, pulled the trees aside, and made a path out. There, you know, we have to have health studies, and we have to have this done. This is 32 years late. We might even have, we could even prove deaths on this one, particularly on the ’91 blowout. Mahalo. FOLENA: Mr. Chairman and Members of the Commission, thank you for letting us speak. I’ve done my ranting and raving at home. I’ve done my cussing. I won’t cuss in front of you. I’ve th been in Hawai‛i, let’s see I’ve been here—1983, November 18, and I have not left, and I won’t leave. I’ll stay right here. My address is 13-1263 Kahukai Street. Mr. Smith and I own a home together in Leilani Estates. We’ve been there since 1998. Previous to that, I was in Kalapana Seaview Estates. It’s misnamed, it has nothing to do with Kalapana. It’s four miles from Kalapana on the coast. During the 1991 blowout, we were severely impacted. I called the Police Department at 8 o’clock in the morning because I woke up to hearing a roar, and I was exhibiting—I didn’t know it at the time—classic hydrogen sulfide serious symptoms. And, when I called the Police Department, they said they have a small problem at PGV and hung up in my ear. The way the wind blows, when PGV, Puna Geothermal Venture, was venting, exploding, had well cleanouts, thank you, etc., the wind would blow it down the coast and drop it right on top of Seaview. Drop it right on top of ‛Opihikāō. We were more seriously impacted there then we are now at the top of Leilani Estates, with the top meaning the top of the hill. Leilani is a hill, a long hill. This health study, the money for this health study, must be appropriated because we are overdue to be recognized as being seriously impacted, not just by uncontrolled releases, ventings, well cleanouts. We are being impacted, and have been impacted for many decades now, by long- term, low level hydrogen sulfide poisoning. Dr. Kaye Kilburn, who died, it’s really strange. He th died the night of that blowout on August 7, but he was in California, and he was top grade in finding hydrogen sulfide poisoned communities and helping them to correct it when industry and politics refused to help them. Kilburn got it done. Dr. Legator was here. I was part of that health study right after the ’91 blowout, and the Feds put such pressure on that man. It was unreal. They threatened to cut his funding. He was a University of Texas professor. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I’ll tell you something. There is a conspiracy here, a big business and some politicians, and we have to cut through it. Our 4 EXHIBIT F lives are at stake. I have been impacted by this Puna Geothermal Venture for too long. I want it to stop. Please help us. Thank you. MIYASATO: Thank you. Starting from this seat here, could I have Dr. Lozano, George Douvris, Stephanie Douvris, and Gregg Adams. Could you please raise your right hands? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? DOUVRIS, G.: Yes. LOZANO, DOUVRIS, S., ADAMS: (affirmative nod) MIYASATO: Ok, start with you. State your name and— LOZANO: Dr. Roy Lozano. I live in 13-635 Pohoiki Road, a mile from the geothermal plant downhill. I’ve lived in Hawai‛i for 26 years, 11 in Pāhoa on Pohoiki Road. I’m the chiropractor there in town. I cannot think of a better way to spend the Geothermal Asset Fund than to do a health study, and I think I heard the Planning Director’s agree to that as well as the adjuster for the insurance company, so I hope that you, by the end of this meeting, will agree with that. I have been affected by the H2S numerous times driving by, I’ll smell it and immediately have a headache and a sore throat. The evening of the hur—tropical storm Iselle at 7:50, my throat started burning, and my lungs started clamping down, and I was, there was four of us in the house, and I was the only one that had those symptoms. But, I had pneumonia as a young child, and I feel I’m a little more sensitive, so that was maybe why I experienced that. Many of my patients experienced the same thing, and when I went to the health clinic and asked if they had been noticing both the Bay Clinic and the Puna Community Medical Center, they said that they’ve been noticing an uptake in respiratory issues, so I think it’ll be valuable to take in some of that data. You know, up until 2-1/2 years ago, I didn’t really notice that many effects from the plant, but that was when they began their last drilling that they did for 120 days. And, you know, the first thing you notice when they start that is a vibration at night. And you’re in bed, well, in my case I’m in bed with my wife, and when you, when I felt that vibration, it is quite disturbing, and when it goes on for 120 days, I would say that there were psychological stresses that I experienced, and I imagine other folks who live closer than that do as well. So, I believe that when the Ag land was turned over 30 years ago to an Industrial use, you didn’t take, they did not take into consideration, the fact that we would be the largest and fastest growing area in the Islands. So here we are now with many more people living there, many more possibilities for harm. So, I’m just hoping that as a taxpayer for 26 years on this Island, that you do the right thing and use these monies for the right way. In any community, the safety of the people is the utmost importance, and I hope that you take that into consideration when you make your decision. Mahalo. DOUVRIS, G: My name is George Douvris. We live on a driveway, 13-841 Pohoiki, within mile of the geothermal plant. I’ve heard a lot of eloquent testimonies why we need this health project to investigate the health concerns of everyone in the area, as well as our children’s 5 EXHIBIT F children’s children and everybody else that has children in the future in the community for both short term and long them health reasons. In our case, I’d like to just give an example of how it was. We had no clue that the geothermal plant had a problem the night of the hurricane. Around 7:30, we heard a big roar like a jet plane, and curious to know why a jet plane would be flying during a hurricane, within 10 minutes after that incident, we all, in a household of 6 people at the time, started smelling a sulfuric kind of smell, developed, all developed headaches, lethargy, respiratory situations, people started coughing and some of the people in my family had been coughing for, since then. I developed these sharp little pains in my stomach which happened starting the next morning and have still been going on. And following the advice that we heard at a geothermal meeting of follow up to the hurricane of people that had some symptoms, we went to the ER room of the Hilo Hospital along with several other people for testing. Tests were conducted, and this was several weeks ago. We’ve called, and they said they still don’t have results for us. Also, they suggested we go to the Pāhoa lab the next morning and have urine tests done and sent to a lab. We’ve checked in on those results, both at the lab and at the Puna Bay Clinic, and they said, the Puna Bay Clinic said they don’t have any record of those tests, and the lab said they were probably lost. They were sent to a lab on the mainland, and they were—it was recommended to the ER room by a Dr. Q-u-i-r-k, an MD in Waimea that had come to one of the meetings, and she said this is a specific lab that would test for the sulfide poisoning that we experienced. The lab in Pāhoa said that those tests were lost because that lab didn’t exist. We called the doctor back, and she said of course they exist, they had 11 branches, and she keeps using ‘em on a weekly basis, so, I’m a little concerned about how that bit of health information can get lost as well as like I said proper health study and regulation perhaps to keep these kind of health symptoms and allow us to live in paradise instead of something much worse. Thank you. DOUVRIS, S.: Hello, my name is Stephanie Douvris, same address, 13-841 Pohoiki. My husband and I, our 3 children, and two visitors from New Zealand were at our house at the time and we were saying that we heard this jet roar. We went outside. It wasn’t raining at the time. It was just a lot of wind, and when we heard it, that it was just coming from one direction, which was the geothermal, we then realized that had gone off. We, it was kind of a miracle ‘cause we had, we have no cell phone reception where we are, but we do have Internet. And, at that time, the Internet went off, we had no way of communicating with anyone of where we were. You know, this is new technology but when you see it doesn’t work when the lines go down and Aloha Broadband had gone down. My daughter-in-law had her cell phone on. She had a different carrier. A text message came in, said that the geothermal had, had went off, and to evacuate, and this was about maybe 10 o’clock at night, and at that point, we were, could hear, all the trees going off like firecrackers, and we knew that we wouldn’t be able to get out. It took us two days just to get out of our driveway. We were stuck there. We couldn’t get out along with other people and luckily we had a, our neighbor had a chainsaw and a bulldozer which got us out. We did go to the meeting like we said. We went and had blood tests and all the tests to th show that we weren’t, we didn’t have the flu at the ER room. That was done on the 12, and th here it is already the 4. We went yesterday to the Pāhoa clinic, and they said they still don’t have the results back from our tests or you know for the urine tests or for the blood tests. And this is over, you know, almost a month now. Other people that I’ve talked to have had worst problems. You know, you’ll probably hear some testimonies where people went to sleep about 9 o’clock and couldn’t wake up until 9 o’clock the 6 EXHIBIT F next day. This is serious. I mean, you know, I have heard of other people that had died during this time, so you know, I’m you know, my health is in, I’m in good health pretty much, and you know, I came down with headaches, sore throat, and I don’t know what—it’s, I would hope that you approve of the study and hopefully other things can happen to help the community. Thank you. ADAMS: Hello, my name is Gregg Adams. I’m a commercial farmer. I reside at Lava Tree Park Subdivision which is located at Mile Marker 3, Route 132, kind of indirectly across the th street from geothermal, on the northwest side. The night of August 7 when Iselle hit, it was approximately about 7:30 because I reviewed my text messages to a buddy down the block, we were keeping in touch with. I text him and said hey geothermal just blew. Was very concerned at that point. The noise and the stress of just the hurricane coming top, on top of the geothermal blowout was just absolutely nerve shattering. So, and then, now I’m on the, kind of the upwind side if you will of geothermal but all of a sudden, in the hurricane, these winds are travelling around the who knows how they can track, but I’m smelling the rotten eggs, the typical hydrogen sulfide smell. I also had health effects, scratchy throat, burning eyes, headache. Was told by HPD when I called at 911 that we were aware of it, there’s no health, safety risk at that time. Later on, I was texted by my buddy and he says B97 is releasing a statement that it is an uncontrolled blowout and you should evacuate if you’re being affected by the release of the gas. This was almost an absurd thing because there was no way to get out of the, there was no way to leave the area. Now, I may take a little different stance on this. I believe that there is a lot of public testimony about the health effects of geothermal around. We all, a few of us have given video testimony of what we’re feeling. These funds may be directed I feel in a different area in regards to maybe mitigating the effects of a blowout from geothermal. I just feel that, that you can’t gas the community when the facility fails. So, that’s my contention, and please forgive me. I’m new to this arena, so a little nervous, and I just feel that this was a—we feel like canaries in the coalmine, and we are getting gassed. Thank you. MIYASATO: Thank you. Could I have Russell Ruderman starting on this side. Geoff Last, Judith Mira, and Paul Kuykendall. Could you please raise your right hands? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? RUDERMAN/LAST: Yes. MIRA/KUYKENDALL: Yes, I do. MIYASATO: You can go ahead and start. State your name and residence. RUDERMAN: Thank you. My name is Russell Ruderman. I reside at 15-937 Paradise Ala Kai in HPP. I’m State Senator from Puna District, but I’m testifying as an individual, and I do want to thank you for the opportunity to speak to you. I support this appropriation of funds for the health study with some concerns which I’ll try to explain. The community deserves a comprehensive health study. In fact, it’s at least 20 years overdue, but you know better late than never. It’s very important that, I do also think that this is a legitimate and appropriate use of the Geothermal Asset Funds. I think it’s important for you folks to insist that this study have legitimacy, neutrality, objectivity, that it be scientific and not politicized. It’s a lot of money to 7 EXHIBIT F spend, and it’s a very important issue, and you know those things have been lacking in the past. Without those characteristics to the study, I don’t think it’s worth, I don’t think you should waste the money. I think we should insist on those or not bother. Public confidence in the study is very, very important. I urge you to look to Puna Pono Alliance as the de facto experts on this situ--, on this situation, and I urge you to consider their input on how the study is done. They’re not just activists, but they’ve participated in all the meetings and all the studies so far, and they’re actually the experts on this issue. And like it or not, they’re the only commu—the only group that the community trusts at this point. PGV which I used to have, which I’ve had high regard for over the years, lost a lot of credibility in this most recent issue, in this most recent incident. Particularly, in the disparity between the official summary of what happened and what the community actually saw, felt, and smelled and experienced. It’s a huge discrepancy, and like every other event, there was no evacuation plan, there was no notification officially to the community. The only thing that was different this time was they did hire a PR firm, and they did put out a much more professional press release of their version of what happened. But, all the more reason why, this study, if we do it, needs to have legitimacy and needs to have the public confidence. My concerns are primarily have to do with the, the incident that just happened. I think that while th we are, as we are currently in the process of analyzing the health effects from the August 7 incident, I think you should consider temporarily postponing this study, simply to take into account the things we’re learning based on this very dramatic incident, and currently there are people really hurting as a result of it, and they need to be helped, but more importantly, if the question is are there health effects from this geothermal plant, the answer is already, is already before us. I’m sorry, I will summarize very quickly. I believe that there are, they may need revision, and it may need to be fine-tuned based on the information we gather from the, from what’s currently going on in the community. We cannot ignore the reality on the ground that serious health effects exist and must be addressed. Thank you very much for your time. LAST: Aloha, my name’s Geoffrey Last. I’ve lived at 13-1267 Malama Street for 30 years. Just for all you folks here, you know when I first moved here, I thought geothermal was wonderful, was great, was everything we’re always gonna have it, and I think this is real important to say to you to get the, so you get to understand us. And, I went for seven years, I still believed it was great. My son used to ride home on the school bus and get poisoned on the way home, and I didn’t know he was getting poisoned. The Health Department said that everything was fine. Don’t worry about a thing. So, comes the blowout. Boom. The light goes on for Geoffrey. Geoffrey goes out and gets an education and finds out that the Health Department had been lying to us. And I’ll call anyone of ‘em to their face liars. I don’t care who they are. We were not told the truth. And, this is very important to understand for you folks. You don’t live out there. You haven’t been through all of this. We’re not making this stuff up. You’re gonna hear from a lot more people that had just got poisoned here. We have the health effects now. We do need this health study, but we have the health effects. They’re right here now. This is what we need studied now. Gary Gill, our wonderful clean-air branch, said oh, there’s nothing happened down in Puna. Here’s the Health Department guy, the head of the Health Department goes on tv and in the newspapers and said nothing happened to us. This is what we’re up against. Here we have Kaye Kilburn, the guy that we wanted as a community to do this study because we know he hasn’t been bought and paid for. He’s dead. I mean, we want 8 EXHIBIT F this study to happen. It’s fair. We’re not an expendable community folks. This, this company and HELCO, they made a decision to keep this plant open, and they disregarded the safety of our community to keep the electricity flowing, and they’ll give you that whole story. He’s here today, and he’ll tell you that stuff. Really folks, we need this. We need this very much. We need this health study but please maybe postpone it and get all the facts of what happened now. What happened now happened now. The people in the room, they haven’t moved to the mainland. They’re here. They’re here, and it’s very important that this get addressed. Geothermal is not clean. It is not green, and it is not renewable. We have better ways here. Let’s put this thing, let’s put this thing to rest. Make ‘em, make them follow the regulations. I mean, we don’t even have monitors. They monitors went out. And then, one last thing, the monitors went out. They were gone during the storm, then after the storm, PGV went ahead and they did their cleanout with no monitors, and people got gassed again, driving by that plant, they got poisoned again, and there was no monitors. Thank you. MIRA: Aloha, my name is Judith Mira, and I live in 13-784 Pohoiki Road, Pāhoa, Hawai‛i 96778. If you would asked me maybe 4-5 years ago on whether PGV gassing people had any effect on their health, I would taken it all with a grain and salt and said well, perhaps not, I really don’t know how people live, but with this last blowout, I was in the middle of it, and it sounded like a jet airline. A jet airplane had landed in my backyard. It was so very loud, and I went to investigate the sound. In opening my door, I got a huge blast of all the toxins that they were putting out. I really didn’t smell much of anything. I didn’t smell the rotten egg smell. There were trees cracking everywhere. I was tired from the expectation of the storm. By 9 o’clock, I was knocked out unconscious. I did not hear any of the storm. I am a mother of three. Moms, we, part of our brain sleeps and part of our brains can hear a pin drop. I didn’t hear huge trees falling in my driveway! Huge ‛ōhi‛a trees. And Albizia trees covering my driveway. When I woke up in the morning to see what was going out, I thought God, I missed all this? I couldn’t believe it. And, I woke up, and I was so tipsy. I do not drink. I do not do drugs. I barely do any coffee because it gives me a headache, but I feel like I, I’ve been drugged. I still feel somewhat drugged. Like there’s a part of my brain that is not quite connecting, that I have to write myself notes. And I feel uneasy and just a little bit, like I’m disconnected. I also couldn’t sleep for five days because I had this dry cough all night long. I was, I had two guests in my house who came to stay with me for the storm. These guests also had headaches. None of us heard the storm. We couldn’t believe that we did not hear all of those trees fall down, and part of my house was inundated when the strongest of the storm came around, and I didn’t feel that. My cat walks wobbly after the storm, like she, like her hips are a little dislocated. Yeah, so from the headaches, from the cough, the raspy throat, and they poisoned us four times after the blowout with smaller blowouts. Just a minute--if another country was to come and poison us in the way that they did, we would be at war right now with them. We cannot let these people get away with this. Thank you so very much for your time. Aloha. MIYASATO: Go ahead. KUYKENDALL: Aloha, my name is Paul Kuykendall. I live at 13-5628 Malama Ki Road in Pāhoa. I’d like to begin by thanking the members of this Planning Commission for considering the health study funding. As important as a timely study is, I recommend that it be put on hold while an investigation of the health impacts of the recent PGV leaks during Hurricane Iselle be 9 EXHIBIT F conducted by an independent agency. Gleaning the facts from this most recent incident will inform Hawai‛i County about priorities for the health study that is proposed. I’m guessing that the health study should be expanded to include acute exposures like the one many of us experienced. Unfortunately, Hurricane Iselle was a perfect storm of high winds, giant Albizias, PGV contractual obligations, an inadequate emergency response plan, and Hawai‛i Department of Health indifference. I live one mile from the plant. My wife, my 75-year old mother-in-law, and I all became nauseous that evening. That was before we heard the reports of the leak by Civil Defense. We could not leave our farm due to downed trees on the road. We all sufferered from headaches and lethargy for the following week. Imagine spending the day preparing for a hurricane, and just when you come inside to take shelter, you are poisoned by H2S and other heavy metals, and you cannot leave due to falling trees. This is what happened to the people who live near PGV that night. PGV said that the system worked as designed, and we followed all the permits, and yet a hundred people or more were made sick, including elderly, pregnant women, and children. There’s something wrong with the system where people are made sick and a company says we followed all the permits. Our system worked as designed. The County bears particular responsibility for those who were made sick from this flume because the County issued the GRP permit to PGV. Also, the Mayor vetoed a bill to improve the emergency response plan for PGV. That was in 2012. For these reasons, the Mayor and the County should request that the Center for Disease Control and the EPA conduct a thorough investigation of incident so that it is not repeated again. Senator Schatz has already made this request in a letter to the CDC and the EPA. I hope the County and the Mayor will show similar leadership on this issue before it happens again. We don’t need more people to get sick and possibly people to die because of a County permitted organization that is willing to put people at risk for the sake of profit. Mahalo for your consideration. MIYASATO: Could I have Suzanne Kelia [sic] [Wakelin], Haley Baldwin, Robert Petricci, and Shana Ritsema. Could you all please your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? WAKELIN: I do. BALDWIN/PETRICCI/RITSEMA: (affirmative nod) MIYASATO: Okay, you can start. Please state your name and residence. WAKELIN: Good afternoon. My name is Suzanne Wakelin. I live at 13-5628 Malama Ki Place in Pāhoa. So, I live with my family approximately one mile from PGV, and I am one of th the people who got sick and trapped in our home during the storm on August 7 when PGV went off-line release geothermal steam. So, the Ormat and PGV PR says that PGV operated as it supposed to. However, it’s one thing for me and my husband to be poisoned. It’s yet another thing for that to happen to my mother who is 75 and my neighbor’s children under the age of ten, and all the other vulnerable people in the community. So, it’s supposed to be hydrogen sulfide that’s monitored according to the Department of Health State permit although there is actually a 10 EXHIBIT F complete lack of a monitoring system. What is also in the steam that’s released? We have no data on exposure so it’s very difficult to do a good health study and find a relationship between what people are experiencing and what they’ve actually been exposed to. So, I don’t know if you got a copy of this. It’s a paper that was published back in 2008 by some consultants for PGV. It’s kind of an interesting paper. There’s some information in here that, it’s relevant. I can’t actually get any data from it specifically, but this paper is looking at metals that they got out of scale from the pipes. So this is metals in the brine and the steam, and they contain copper, zinc, lead, arsenic, selenium, cadmium, molybdenum, antimony, tellurium, and thallium. There’s actually more, I mean, there’s a lot of stuff in that brine, and there’s not a way that they’re actually taking it out so that the community are not exposed to it, and there’s no data to show what people are being exposed to. So, originally, I have been supportive of the community funding a health study out of the royalty fund, but after this latest release, I think it’s premature until we have an independent inquiry. We really do need to take a look at what happened in this latest event, and rushing into, and I know it’s not a rush because it’s been 30 years, but the health study as it stands is gonna need some work to really include all of the things that we’ve been exposed to, so thank you for your time. MIYASATO: Go ahead. BALDWIN: My name is Haley Baldwin. My address is 13-699 Leilani Avenue. I’m .7 miles from the geothermal plant on the GPS. What happened was basically our mini Fukushima, and we can’t allow that to happen to us. We have to take responsibility for people’s health. It’s a double standard to say that we cannot prevent lava flow because we’re cultural sensitivity, but yet we can extract it and poison people and gas people? That’s a double standard. It’s punching holes in Pele. In my theory, it is attracting the lava. If we don’t do something about it, then Pele will. People are sick. I moved here in February from the North Shore of Hawai‛i. I never knew how blessed I was to breathe clean air. I bought an acre thinking that I could have my first child. I had a spontaneous abortion, and it was attributed to the geothermal plant. This study although it focuses on the nervous system, the respiratory system, and then anxiety disorder, it opens the door to look at all the affects. During Hurricane Iselle, I was in my home. The plant blew up. There was nothing controlled about it. It had more than one explosion. I faced towards it and tucked and covered and it made this awful sound. (Imitated sound.) I feared for my life. It didn’t stop. I kept going, and then immediately the rotten egg smell comes, and at that point, I began to have all the neurological effects—a headache, poor concentration, even my personality has been affected. I’m more irritable. I have attention span, my verbal recall has been affected. I’ve only lived there since February—February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September. I’m already, every day, headaches. I’m a completely healthy person. I was a summer hire for the County of Hawai‛i, and I did a respiratory, a respirator test to prove that I had the lung capacity to wear a respirator, and my lung function has already been decreased. I cannot dive as much as I used to, and it’s all, it, this, I have a degree in psychology from the University of Hawai‛i. This can be conducted unbiased, unskewed, with correct information. It can be done. Even a university student could do it. We need to make it, and as I summarize, we need the professionals to do it, but we need it to be unbiased. When they teach you in science, you don’t skew the data. Their monitors are not accurate. When I go on-line when I smell a smell, that’s they the website is unavailable, okay? So, I can’t even monitor when I should leave. How I should leave. So, it doesn’t take a long—to have this to have health effects. Not, and the 11 EXHIBIT F effects that it’s having on our children and our future unborn children. This study is so vital. Thank you. MIYASATO: Go ahead, you can use that one. You can use the other mic. RITSEMA: Hi. Hi, my name is Shana Ritsema. I live at 13-667 Hinalo Street, Pāhoa. That’s Lanipuna Gardens, very close to geothermal. I’m a single mother of four children. I love the area that I live in. It’s a beautiful place. There’s all kinds of families and elderly people and children, and I believe that we are being poisoned by geothermal. I was affected by geothermal th because of the blowout on August 7. I was sick. All my children got sick. We had the respiratory. Also, what I noticed is that I had tingling in my arms for about a week, a week and a half. They would fall asleep easily. They would be tingly. I wasn’t sure what was going on, and then at this last PGV meeting that they had recently, I realized that like these were symptoms of the hydrogen sulfide poisoning. So, I do believe that I’m being affected. I’ve talked to all kinds of different kinds of people in the community, and they all feel that they are being affected. I believe that also I’ve just been told by Mike, the one that runs the PGV that there are lots of flammable materials being held at the plant, and currently there’s a lava flow right outside Pāhoa, and I believe this is immediate. That we need to shut down the geothermal or be very, get these people to move out their chemicals or these explosive things. I mean, this is a community of people. Our lives are at stake. Our safety is important. I’m a taxpayer. I pay my HELCO bill. I don’t support geothermal. I want me and my children to be safe. I need to live in that area. It’s an affordable place. I don’t want to have to move. Please protect the people. People are more important than money. Thank you. PETRICCI: Aloha, you’ve heard some pretty compelling testimony today. My name is Robert Petricci. I live at 13-430 Pohoiki Road, about a mile from the PGV power plant. I’ve lived near that power plant since 1981 before it was built in 1990. Before that, was HGP-A. Harry Kim, Duane Kanuha, Renē Siracusa, Jon Olson, Russell Ruderman are all people that have been here from the very beginning. So, first on the, on the health study, I originally, I was on the Mayor’s, the Adler committee, the Mayor’s committee, and I originally supported the RFP. However, things have changed, and as a member of the Mayor’s health study group, I’m perplexed that I was not allowed to see the RFP. The RFP was, I was told that I couldn’t see it, and I, so it’s really hard for me to come here and support an RFP that is secret from the committee that supposedly designed it. I also think things have changed in that the, the Adler Committee found that there were health impacts related to geothermal prior to 1991, but that after 1991, it was inconclusive if there had been health impacts. I believe that with the latest accident and the hundred plus people now that are telling you that they are having health impacts, that it has been established that there are health impacts since 1991. So, to design a study to determine if there are health impacts seems to me to be premature. I think we need to do an investigation of what happened similar to what Goddard & Goddard did after the geothermal blowout in order to design a health study that will actually get to the root of the problem. We’ve already I believe, as a member of the health study group, I believe that we’ve already determined that there are health impacts related to geothermal, so I don’t think we have money to waste doing something that I think we already know. 12 EXHIBIT F I’m gonna switch now. I have a lot of things I could say. The Department of Health website has never worked, ever. PGV says the emergency response system operated as designed. It’s designed to save the plant at the expense of the community. That’s unacceptable. The GRP needs, the Geothermal Resource Permit, from the County needs to address that. So does the State Department of Health. Why is there no where for geothermal victims to go to help outside of Puna Pono Alliance? None of these people can find—I asked the Mayor to please come out and help us, and he told me, you just make sure you document this very well. And that is unacceptable. I want to show you some newspaper articles, 1977— AUDIENCE MEMBER: Microphone— PETRICCI: 1977— AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Microphone— PETRICCI: I’m sorry—1977, 40 people said they were sick from geothermal well testing. I believe this was in 1992, Harry Kim wanted to put in a real emergency response—but, he refused to sign off on the restarting of the PGV plant after the blowout because he had five conditions, and they weren’t that stringent, that he wanted met before they could restart that plant. They overrode him, and that was when they decided that the Mayor is actually the head of Civil Defense, not Harry Kim, and they overrode him, and they restarted the plant without any emergency response plan that was functional as we saw in this last storm. Any monitoring system that is functional. There’s no data. And you have the Department of Health coming in public on television and in the media and saying there’s no way those people got sick, and he has no data to make that statement. And the Department of Health has done that since HGP-A. And I don’t know why they do it, but it seems to me that they believe their job is to protect PGV, and that we’re expendable as a community, and that’s the only way I can see it. The asset fund in 1990, I believe, residents blast the new Geothermal Asset Fund. She’s asking me to stop, and I want to say that I’m testifying as a resident and as President of Puna Pono. Can I get extra time because you will not believe lethal levels released. I mean, every one of these. The HGP-A closed by emergency decree. And I mean on and on and on and on. And here we are with another hundred people. It’s time that we do something about it. Thank you. HEAUKULANI: I’ve got a question of you, sir. I take seriously our kuleana over this fund, and I agree with everyone that’s testified here that we need to use this money in the best interest of the people that are being impacted. Now, I’ve heard a couple of times today, I think Senator Ruderman, too, mentioned a—you know, some kind of a proposal or plan to make sure that if we fund this study, that it’s gonna do what it is that needs to be done down there. I don’t want to just burn up $750,000. I voted against the meta-study because I just thought it was just a study of a bunch of studies, and I’m tired burning up money— PETRICCI: --I agree— 13 EXHIBIT F HEAUKULANI: --to no good end. So, I’d be interested in your thoughts about how do we, how do we investigate the impacts of this more recent uncontrolled release, and how do we use that information to better formulate the proposal for—to the extent that a medical study is what we decide to do. PETRICCI: I appreciate your asking the question in your position, and I agree with you. HEAUKULANI: That’s partly to give you some more time, too. PETRICCI: Thank you. Okay, now I get it. So, I think Tom Travis can answer that question better than I can, but like I said, the health committee, when we looked at the issue, and we spent over a year looking at the issues, the study was designed to determine if there were health impacts, and I think that it’s pretty clear that there are, and so I think that we need to go back, and we need to have an independent engineering firm come in and do a study. Goddard & Goddard was an engineering company, and after the blowout, they came, and they did a great study. And they made some really good recommendations if you read the report. The problem was they didn’t get implemented. It just got put on a shelf and everything just went forward as normal. So, I really believe that’s what we need because the only information you have in this situation. You have the polluter, PGV, reporting the pollution. Department of Health made that statement because they called PGV, and PGV told them there was no problem. And that is how it’s always been. So, we need some kind of outside oversight, an independent investigation. We cannot depend on PGV to investigate themselves, and at this point, that’s all I see. I hope that answers your question. HEAUKULANI: It helps— PETRICCI: I’m happy to elaborate if you have anything specific. HEAUKULANI: You know, I’m just—I’m more concerned with the process, the procedure, you know, and hard and fast, how do we—how do we put that in place. In theory, that makes sense to me, but— PETRICCI: I think Tom Travis can answer that question. He’ll be coming up next, yeah, I think. He’s an engineer. HEAUKULANI: Thank you. PETRICCI: Thank you very much. MIYASATO: Could I have Mike Hale, Tom Travis, Laura Travis, and Dave Kiser [sic] [Kisor]? KISOR: Kisor. 14 EXHIBIT F MIYASATO: Kisor, excuse me. Could you all please raise your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? HALE/TRAVIS L./KISOR: Yes. TRAVIS T.: I do. MIYASATO: State your name and residence. HALE: My name’s Mike Hale. I live at 13-3385 Hookupu in Leilani within the one mile zone. I don’t understand why we need a health study at this point. I mean, it’s obvious that there’s health effects, and we’ve got over a hundred people including myself that were affected in this last time. I mean, I’ve been suspicious of some other things that happened over the years, you know the grogginess of waking up in the morning or something like that, but this one was so obvious with hearing the noise, smelling it, feeling the effects, passing out for 12 hours, waking up groggy, feeling the numbness in the arms, the chest. My girlfriend had the chest thing, still has a cough. We both still have light cough in the lungs. X-rayed, nothing found. Take antibiotics, nothing found. Strep throat, no flu. I’ve got my medical reports in. There was no sickness. Everything points to something that can’t be determined, but all the effects point that it can be caused by this. So, that’s what I felt, and we’ve got all these things going on in the neighborhood. You know, I have a job. I don’t want to be here and be, you know, talking about it, about geothermal. It should be an awesome thing, but in this case it’s not. I talked to a few neighbors that aren’t in the studies that have been done, or in the data that’s been out already. With you know five kids, their kids all felt effects and got headaches and all this. That hasn’t been taken into account of these hundred people already. Those neighbors next to them, the old man who went to the hospital. He’s very private, doesn’t want anybody to know his business—on oxygen ever since the event. The guy who got sick the night the event, and died a week later. You know, nobody can say, you know, was it this? Who knows? But, why do I have to worry that maybe it was. I know my effect was you know. This was obvious that I got sick from this thing. Gonna make this quick because I got one minute here, but I dropped off some papers there for you, and I, it’s my options for you know getting away from it. The one is part of their permit, and it says that, let’s see, geothermal, anybody within the radius is supposed to, notify the residents, 24 hours in advance. I’ve lived there 14 years. I’ve never been notified. I don’t know anybody who’s ever been notified. I know that there’s gas been released, but nobody’s ever been notified. This is in their permit, so they’re in violation of their permit. They’re also supposed to offer us the option to leave at their expense. There’s no other additional fund. It’s their expense, $100 per resident or $200 per household, $150 if it impacts your business. Never been offered that. In fact, back in 2002, I was told there was no such thing when I called the plant. The next page on here is I filed a complaint with the zoning on this. The next page on there is the fact that I tried to go for the relocation, geothermal relocation. The first time I was denied. The second time I got it. They offered me a hundred thousand less than what I owe on my house. These are my options to get out of the area. I can’t. The night of the event, I couldn’t get out due to the trees. That’s it, thank you. 15 EXHIBIT F TRAVIS: I’m Tom Travis. I’m a retired naval submariner who served in the Navy for 30 years, operated nuclear propulsion plants. I’m a retired government service director for studies for the Joint Center of Operations Analysis at the Department of Defense. I was also one of the geothermal public health assessment working group. I live at 14-256 Papaya Farms Road in lower Puna. th On August 7, the PGV geothermal plant released a significant amount of hydrogen sulfide gas into the atmosphere beginning at 7:26 p.m. Shortly after that time, many residents in this surrounding area became sick. My wife, Laura, who is next to me, has begun the process of establishing documentation packages for those that have come forward. I made a map to show some of what we had learned to this point. If you examine the map, the blue dots are the 52 residents that I, that have told us where they live and what their symptoms are, and that we have verified their symptoms started at 7:26 p.m. So, the 50, the 52, that we evaluated out of a 109, we have to look at the others yet, those 52 as you can see are spread along here. The red dots on the map are people that my wife and I have classified as having significant lethargy. This is not a medical term, and I’ll tell you what it means. It means that they either couldn’t control when they went to sleep or after they went to sleep, they couldn’t be awakened. So, if someone fell asleep, and their wife or children tried to awaken them, and they couldn’t be awakened for a significant amount of time, that’s the red, they would get a red dot. Additionally, a red dot could be if they fell asleep at a totally inappropriate time. Walking to do something, and lay down and go to sleep at that time. In other words, medical term might be that they passed out. So, those are the red dots. As you can see, there are quite a number of people there. These are the symptoms, 8 experienced of the 52, 8 experienced severe lethargy, 31 experienced lethargy, 14 mental fog, 5 cardiovascular including heart pains or chest pains, respiratory including severe a—shortness of breath, headaches, eyes including not being able to see right. That’s more than eye irritation. That means seeing double. Not everybody, some of it was eye irritation. And there was one example of skin, 15 people experienced nausea. Could you hand that to them? If any of you are interested, this can be passed around. It’s a little bigger than a piece of paper. Many people, including from, some from the Department of Health, have tried to dismiss these health issues. One was statement in the Honolulu Star Advertiser before these people could even get to a doctor, some of ‘em, because they had been blocked with trees. In almost every regard, the reasons that they have cited for this dismissal have been specious. I am confident that as we pursue the facts, we will understand that there were consequence, consequences of the release of geothermal toxins. Based on this, the most important effort needed is to understand the problems caused by the recent release and to treat those that have been harmed. The health study that you are considering today is basically an epidemiological study that uses remnants of health effects to determine if there have been health effects. I recommend that we briefly delay this effort as we learn about the consequences of 7, August. Then we can incorporate what we learn by investigating this—this incident into the health study to be sure that we spend the $750,000 the best way we can. Thank you for your time, and I’m sorry that I went over a little bit. TRAVIS, L.: Hello? Okay, I’m Laura Travis, a retired register nurse and member of the geothermal public health assessment working group, and I‘ve been working to document health th complaints following the land fall of Tropical Storm Iselle on August 7. I think we need to 16 EXHIBIT F understand what happened that night, and additionally address how we can help the people affected. Learning the lessons from what happened is most important. I have a statement that I would like to read that is from Dr. Sally Boyd who just has a statement, so I’m just going to read it. To whom it may concern, I’m a physician with a naturopathic practice in Pāhoa, Hawai‛i. Our offices provide general primary care to residents of the greater Puna area. I am writing to provide a general report on the events and types of injury we have seen in our practice since the storm and geothermal event on August 7, 2014. Our office was closed with no phone service at all immediately after the storm for a period of three full days. In addition, many of our patients had no power or phone for several weeks after the event and were physically unable to get to the office to make their appointments or to make new appointments. Therefore, it is most likely that the following reporting is significantly under representative of the number of patients impacted by the event who needed care. What we did notice most is that as soon as our patients were able to call and physically arrive at the office, they did so in high numbers. This surge of patients reporting similar symptoms began as soon as the office was fully reopened, approximately 7 days after the event. The increase in patients with related symptom clusters continues to this day. We have documented ten new and returning patients who report significant similar symptom sets which began acutely following the storm and geothermal gas release. In addition, about 25 percent of all returning and new patients who live in lower Puna area report these symptoms as new events but present to the office for other primary issues, such as colds, flu, hormone issues, depression, etc. Those who were closer to the geothermal plant the night of August 7th tend to report the most severe symptoms. Symptoms reported include loss of consciousness or severe lethargy immediately following the gas release lasting 1 to 3 days. This symptom was limited to those within approximately a mile of the plant. Depression, severe irritability, labile mood, inability to focus, short term memory loss, irrational behavior, conjunctivitis, red, swollen, water eyes, sinusitis, sore throat, dysphagia, chest pain, significant skin changes including dry, pale facial skin and circles under the eyes, tachycardia and palpitations, increases in existing hypertension, lung pain and shortness of breath with wheezing, increased tactile fremitus, coughing and dry wheezing sometimes with secondary upper respiratory infection symptoms and pneumonia, a severe and distinct and form of fatigue with restless legs, vague joint pains, muscle cramps and twitching and insomnia, sweating and feeling of overheating, sometimes alternated with cold sweats and foul, distinctive smelling sweat. Dramatic increases in fatigue and other symptoms in hypothyroid and autoimmune patients and those with other already existing hormonal issues. Many of these symptoms decreased in intensity over time, but have not dissipated in these patients. I would be happy to work with you further in any capacity needed to assist these patients and the community in general with this issue. Feel free to contact me. Just, sorry—anyway, I just want to say that we are thankful that the County is addressing health issues. A health study is needed, and I ask you to help make this study as useful as possible by incorporating what we learned. KISOR: My name’s Dave Kisor. I live at 14-3444 Tutu Lane, Pāhoa. It is actually in Nānāwale Estates. My cat, Thunderball, and I—I know we were both hit with this stuff because I was pretty sluggish, and he’s a 4-year old tomcat. He’s full of piss and vinegar. He’s running around 17 EXHIBIT F like the ‘ole kitten he is, and he’s been laying down like, pretty much sluggish. I was sluggish as well. There were times I couldn’t even get out of bed. I wanted to. I’d just say hey, wait a minute, after a while I’d force myself—after a couple times, I had to roll over like I was pushed in a barrel off the pier to get out of bed, and it was like wait a minute, I used to be climbing burned out hill slopes when I was doing forest fire research for the forest service. I wasn’t doing anything to get tired, so let’s stop for a—you get hit with a dose, I didn’t smell it, but I know because there was a fire up and up around Forest Avenue, Forest Road. That’s about two years ago, and that opened up an air channel from the highway because when the air was coming in, and you know it follows a path of least resistance, you know, just takes a road cut, comes up, and that’s how people in Nānāwale got hit. I noticed there was another couple of people on that map that Tom presented. Oh and, now that was just how I figured because last year, my friend, Louise, she was out walking her two dogs. I was on the other side of town. I didn’t get hit when th they, when the plant had their release—the March 13 debacle, the tree trimming and the— somebody’s computer went oops, I gotta shut off this other line, so PGV gets to shut down and release. They did, and the next day I saw her, and she didn’t know why she felt like she’d been clobbered. Just before, she’d be given a clean bill of health. And her lung, past lung capacity, went in, she came down with two collapsed lungs. I mean, she could barely breathe, and that was the same result. Now this is why we need this study, hah! But, like others have mentioned, we don’t want to just throw money. That seems to be the, you know, the standard response, throw away money at a problem will you know, will solve the solu—will solve it. It doesn’t usually do that good. But anyway, but, I’ll compensate for some of those who have rambled on, and I know I can. I’ve rambled well. I’ll just leave this for the next group, and thanks for having us here. MIYASATO: Thank you. Could I have Ronald Hammond [sic] [Hanson], Harry Kim— HANSON: Hanson— MIYASATO: Hanson—Harry Kim, Sofia Wilt, and Chris Biltoft. Could you please your right hands? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? KIM: I do. HANSON/WILT/BILTOFT: Yes. MIYASATO: Please state your name and residence. HANSON: My name is Ronald Hanson. I’ve lived in Lanipuna Gardens for more than ten years. I’ve always thought that the geothermal power plant had a really good safety procedure. I talked to the people at the plant before, trying to make sure that some of the rumors I’ve heard about the health issues were not true even though my wife passed away last year of health issues, I’m not sure as related to the geothermal and several of my neighbors have been sick for several years. I thought that a lot of these health issues were not related to the geothermal power plant. th However, on the 7 of August, I experienced with Peggy, my girlfriend, severe problems with breathing, a short time after we heard the sound like jet or rocket engines going off at the power 18 EXHIBIT F plant. I’ve heard those jet engine sound several times in the past, past. I was not overly concerned at that time, that we would be exposed to a lot of hydrogen sulfide. I thought their procedures were in place to protect the neighborhood. And since that time, I’ve been to some meetings that said the safety procedures for emergency shutdown is to vent gas to the neighborhood. At the present time, I think that all the safety features, except one major feature of safety were down at the time. The system that did work was gas was vented into the neighborhood. If it would not have been vented, the plant could possibly have exploded and made something near a quarter mile crater, deep and wide. So, that system did work. The monitors, the scrubbers, the other things did not work at that time. One of the main reasons I came here to testify today is I don’t want to see the neighborhood continually getting gassed, and I want something to be done so that can never happen again. But, like I said, I heard sounds like jet engines several times in the past, I heard people complain about the hydrogen sulfide but I tell you, experience it personally, you really don’t believe how bad it is. I am also of the conclusion that another health study at this time, you’ve got a lot of people out there that’s sick, people aren’t being admitted that their sick and affected with this gas, and I question whether it would be good to have a health study of the type, type that you propose at this time. Thank you very much. MIYASATO: Good afternoon. KIM: Thank you, my name is Harry Kim. I reside at 471 Ho‛okina Place in Hilo, Hawai‛i. I thank you for your time. I don’t blame anybody here in the panel or the audience of not being confused. If you have been listening to radio or newspaper, reading newspaper accounts to what has happened, and here you have a lot of people testifying in regards to negatives that happened, how can you on the board not be confused when PGV, Department of Health, have stated in writing and verbally, and the community presentation, that nothing has happened, and no threat was made to the people of Hawai‛i. If you want discrepancy, you don’t have to go very far, and I wish we could speak for an hour or two to show you these discrepancies of information. And th number one, go back to about little over a year ago, March 13 release, PGV stated that their monitors showed no more than 30 parts per billion or so. The HAZMAT people of the Fire Department reported 1 to 2 million parts per mil. That alone tells you discrepancies in regards to who says what. I am against the County government funding this health study. I hope all of the people who are behind me you know will understand why. Number one, I do not feel it would do what they want it to do. Number two, I don’t think you have enough money in your kitty to cover the costs of a thorough health study. And number three, I think the situation is that we must have a very complete study in regards to the operations, as well as the health effects. Senator Schatz was approached that if he would approach the CDC to begin that task, and he complied that with that request by writing a letter to CDC in regards to begin that task of looking as to what’s happened here. When I leave, when I left the job in the County government whether it be Civil Defense or Mayor, I was asked by a reporter, how I felt about my time, and I told him my greatest failure, I have had a lot of failures like most people I guess, but my greatest failure in government, as a government employee, was to do my job of protection in an environment of people because of the geothermal failure. Our State government passed Act 97 which took away 100 percent of the County authority in regards to controlling geothermal. This same State government, with the 19 EXHIBIT F support of the County government, tried to eliminate all EIS, EAS requirement for all exploratory drilling. Act 97 which is an act, therefore by law, allows geothermal exploration anywhere on this Island of Hawai‛i including Urban, Rural, and Ag lands. I want you to just think about that. They took away 100 percent of the planning responsibilities and ordinances governing this Island so that the people of geothermal can do as they please, and our State government and County government supported it. What I’m asking for now, and I know there is a PGV representative behind me, what is wrong with all of us embracing totally the support of CDC and EPA coming here and doing a thorough study of what has happened. I would like to have the permit revoked until that is completed, but that’s not within your authority, but please understand, it is not against the study. It is to achieve what must be. Why would PGV oppose it? Because if this, what they say has been right all the time, the study will show it by EPA and CDC. So, I’m asking for your support, postpone the granting of these funds until we see if we can be successful in getting the EPA and CDC to come here as they did after 1993—1990 blowout. Thank you for your time. WILT: Thank you. My name is Sofia Wilt. I live at 13-3362 Makamae Street, Leilani Estates. I’m less than one mile from the geothermal. I am also typographically in a depression. The night of the storm, similar experience to many. I heard explosions. I didn’t know what was going on. There was no radio service of any kind. I heard about it through Facebook from a friend. I was panicked. I didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t leave my property. There was a tree across my driveway. I was gassed, and I was knocked unconscious. The following morning, I woke up and felt like I had been hit by a two by four. A few days later, I went to my doctor and was diagnosed with reactive pneumonia. Reactive as in response to a toxin or pathogen. I am extremely grateful for the Puna Pono Alliance being a resource because I noticed curiously following the storm, all the radio announcements would tell you where to get ice and what kind of place to get free water but there was nothing for people that were gassed. There was no information. The Civil Defense and PGV were noticeably silent. I started attended meetings and learned a lot. I was one of the first people that was sent to the emergency room for a blood draw and an urine sample. I recently spoke to my physician on Tuesday to review those results, and they were more or less inconclusive. The five days lapse time from collecting that information made them basically null and void. I spoke to two physicians, and they confirmed th that. So, I feel like there’s been extremely valuable time lost from August 7 to where we are now. Many of us—the immediacy of what happened has been lost, and that’s unfortunate. I do feel that we need a comprehensive health study. I also feel like Harry Kim that digging deeper in involving the CDC and the EPA would be definitely a good route. I’m also, would like to point out how odd it was for the Department of Health to publish an article in the Tribune Herald saying that there was no issue even though as we know, about a hundred or so of us have complained of ill effects. They never interviewed anybody. The monitoring systems were down. I don’t know how they made such a determination based on so little information. I’m also, applied for the relocation program in 2012, and I recently found out I’ve been wanting to move as soon as possible from my residence because I can’t go through another incident like th happened on August the 7, and found out in order to benefit whenever that might happen from the relocation program, I have to occupy my house. So, I find that very ironic that I have to stay th in my house and potentially go through what I went through on August 7, so I think that aside 20 EXHIBIT F from the health study, we need to address some regulatory issues that should happen. Thank you. BILTOFT: Hello, I’m Chris Biltoft, 14-5001 Hoolai Road, Kapoho Vacationland in Pāhoa, and I’m a meteorologist. I understand that we’re before you’re a, for your consideration is the RFP for a health study. I’ve tried to contribute to this RFP. I provided information and suggestions and what not. I really don’t know what is in this RFP. I’ve not had an opportunity to actually see it. I hope you have. I have not seen the thing. So, it’s kind of difficult for me or anyone else to really comment relevantly on something that we have not seen and cannot see. But, in any case, hopefully in the RFP, there is a, the possibility of doing retrospective dispersion modeling to try to establish what sorts of gas concentrations were put out at certain times during various releases. That would be a very, a useful thing to do. But, currently, you know, this current seven, eight August blowout has been a bit of a game changer. Now there’s a whole new class of people who have been allegedly exposed to various toxic gases, and so, you know, the health study as it is written now probably needs to be re-examined, and we need to take advantage of this, the information that is coming in now about this latest release and re-look at the design of the health study and perhaps gain something from the experience that these people have had, so that’s, that’s my suggestion before the group. And that’s about all I have to say. MIYASATO: Thank you. Could I have Cory Harving [sic] [Harden]. Cory. Could you please raise your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? HARDEN: Yes. MIYASATO: Please state your name and residence. HARDEN: I’m Cory Harden, 874 Kuloloa Road in Hilo, and I’m just horrified at what I’m hearing about what people went through the night of August 7. I think we need to find out what were the health effects from August 7 in addition to the long-term health effects. Perhaps the County study could do a piece, and maybe the CDC could do a more thorough study. We also need to find out what the, was the responsibility of PGV, HELCO, Civil Defense, and Department of Health. For example, why didn’t Civil Defense order HELCO and PGV to have the plant shut off before the storm? Just temporarily during the storm. That would have prevented all this, but it sounds like private interests made the decision to keep it open, and it sounds like that should have been a government decision. I’d also like to know why does Puna Pono have to do the job that government should be doing. Why are they having to collect all this data and show there’s a problem. I mean, if people elected to represent the people should be, you know, representing and protecting them. I would like to know how come Bob could not see the RFP for today’s health study? I would like to see the permits looked at again and revised to protect people, and after this, we just, we cannot go back to business as usual. Thank you. MIYASATO: Thank you. I’d like to take a five-minute recess. Chairman Miyasato called a recess at 3:02 p.m., and the meeting was reconvened at 3:13 p.m. 21 EXHIBIT F MIYASATO: I’d like to call the meeting back to order. Could we have representatives from the Mayor come forward, from the Mayor’s office come forward, please? Could you all please raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai‛i County Planning Commission? DAYTON: I do. MADDOCK/MELROSE: Yes. MIYASATO: Could you please state your name and residence, please. DAYTON: Sure, my name is Kevin Dayton— MIYASATO: Use the mic, please. DAYTON: Sorry, my name is Kevin Dayton. I live, 90 South Wilder Road, Hilo, representing the Mayor’s staff. Would you like me to just briefly present? Or maybe-- MIYASATO: You can do your presentation then-- MELROSE: --we could introduce ourselves— MADDOCK: Jay Maddock, 120 Kaeleloi Place, Honolulu. MELROSE: Jeff Melrose, 1405 Waiānuenue Avenue. I’m a consultant to the County on this issue, and Jay is the public health consultant hired to write the RFP. MIYASATO: Go ahead. DAYTON: Okay, members of the Commission and Chairman, thank you very much for considering this request from the Mayor. Just to very briefly recap because I know it’s been a long day for you. There have long been community concerns expressed over the years about possible health effects from geothermal in Puna. However, there just simply isn’t any hard, scientific data on that, that aspect. Mayor Kenoi wants to address these concerns in an open and scientific matter as much as possible, and contracted as you probably know with Peter Adler, PhD to organize an independent joint fact-finding study group made up of community members to examine the type and extent of any possible health impacts from Hawai‛i Island’s geothermal operations. The assessment report was completed, geothermal public health assessment health report was completed in September of 2013 after a great deal of tremendous effort by the community and involvement by the community. It’s estimated that, that group volunteered about fifteen hundred hours over nine months. The study found that Puna’s public health profile is unclear and recommends studies, a number of which, several of which this board has already approved--studies to determine the type and extent of any possible health impacts from geothermal operations in Puna. As you know, the current request before the Planning Commission is to approve the use of Geothermal Asset Funds for a public health study to 22 EXHIBIT F determine if there are health effects on Puna residents that can be linked to geothermal energy development. Dr. Jay Maddock, Chair of the UH School of Public Health, who is to my right, was contracted to prepare the RFP to conduct the study, and as part of his assignment, he conducted background research, including meetings with the geothermal health study group, and he’ll continue to assist the Mayor’s office to see that the RFP is published as broadly as possible in the field. Based on the scope of work required, and a review of comparable studies in other places, the amount requested is $750,000 over three years. As required by the Geothermal Asset Fund rule, the request was submitted to a claims adjuster for review and recommendation. Upon approval by the Windward Planning Commission and following procurement procedures, the RFP will be distributed locally and nationally to solicit proposals from researcher teams with expertise and experience in conducting these types of community health studies. We do anticipate an award in the first quarter of next year assuming everything goes well, and the Geothermal Asset Fund currently contains about 1.96 million dollars, so the fund is adequate to cover this research. Jeff here can update you on the other four requests that totaled $293,000, a little bit more than that, that this panel has already approved including air monitoring equipment and so on. And, with that, I’ll guess I’ll open it up to any questions if that’s appropriate, yeah? MIYASATO: Go ahead. HENKEL: Mr. Dayton, is it true that the Adler group members weren’t given access to the RFP? DAYTON: I’m going to pass actually to Jeff the specific details of that process, yeah? MELROSE: No, that’s not true. What we did was, we started when we hired Jay, we went out and re-pulled that group back in. We had three meetings with them, three drafts over a period of time. They brought really good insight to the, to the guts and scope of that RFP including what the key questions are, what we’re really trying to solve here, what are the evaluation criteria, what, how do you weigh evaluation, how do you, how will you evaluate. So, we had three meetings at the end of which we said okay, now we got the gut of this piece and then we sent it to procurement, and procurement now put it into the boilerplate form and it’s being reviewed by the Corp Counsel. So, at this moment, they’ve been trying to get a hold of the, of the final RFP, and their procurement concerns about whether or not, because you begin to circulate an RFP before you’ve actually—you know, it’s an uneven playing field. It needs to out at one time as a piece. My review of it, all of the issues, all of the wording that was in it, is still in it. The only difference is we agreed in our review to actually what the evaluation committee would look like, and that just doesn’t appear in the committee but it was something that Jay said let’s have a conversation about because let’s make that clear up front, how, what does the evaluation committee look like. We came to an agreement on that, but the actual numbers of people there isn’t generally in an RFP. But, other than that, every bit of the wording was in it. The rest of the wording is just RF—it’s just standard boilerplate. So, there’s just concern about passing that back out and having it circulate and then find its way into different conversations before there’s a level playing field for offering it, so that’s—the truth is, in three meetings specifically to shape 23 EXHIBIT F that scope and to develop the pieces, lots of back and forth, lots of good ideas. Really appreciate their input, and they made it a better RFP, guaranteed. So, that’s, that’s the history of that. MIYASATO: Any further questions? HEAUKULANI: Oh, I have lots. I’ll just throw this out to the panel. I’d like your thoughts about some of the testimony we’ve heard this afternoon that this might be premature given the recent uncontrolled discharge to whoever wants to pick up the ball. MADDOCK: You know, I had the opportunity to listen to all the testimony, and I think obviously this changes, a bit of what we’ve looked at, but when you look at the study, and what’s written in here, we were looking for someone to come in and do a study that looks at both cumulative low level exposure plus peak exposure. You know, we were thinking mostly about th the ’91 blowout, but obviously anyone that did the study would include the August 7. It is written in here that any additional work that’s done, on monitoring that’s done, on air flow, would have to be included in their study, so ongoing work. I know there’s been a long delay in getting the studies, probably you know twenty, thirty years too late, you know, and there will continue to be as long as the plant is open probably events. And, I think by delaying, I’m not sure what you add, and you get a lag that goes longer and longer, so that the more recency you have in the study to, when there was an event, the easier it will be to check the health effects, so I don’t see a benefit scientifically from delaying the study. HEAUKULANI: What about the idea of investigating the possibility of bringing in CDC and/or EPA to give us an idea of what we’re looking at here before we fund the study? DAYTON: Thank you for the question. I was just talking to Bob Petricci before this, before coming up here, and that suggestion of their involvement—the first I heard of it was today, and I haven’t spoken with the Mayor about it, but I’m pretty confident that he would welcome their involvement, their research, their inquiry if that’s something that they intend to do, if that’s something the community feels is appropriate. I’m not sure, I’ll defer to Jay I guess as to how that might inform this particular study, but their involvement would be welcome, I’m sure. MADDOCK: Sure of it, if the CDC was to come out, they would be looking specifically at the th August 7 blowout, and then looking at the peak exposure and effect on health which is very different than the long-term, low level, accumulative exposure which includes the heavy metals and some of the other issues, I think. They would actually complement each other and obviously if the CDC came out, that would be a benefit to the community. HEAUKULANI: Okay, and forgive me for my lack of experience in this, but how does this process work? We’re putting out this RFP. Do we get any time along the process to watch how it’s being shaped or whose, whose gonna respond to it? How does it work? How do we—I’m trying to make sure that we get value for the amount of money you’re asking us to invest into this. DAYTON: Jeff, on process, that’s you, yeah? 24 EXHIBIT F MELROSE: At some point, this becomes a procurement process, and it, there is you know, you follow procurement law to how you, how you do this. The study, the way the RFP is structured, it’s really structured around a set of core questions. What are the things we’re really try to solve for, and asks the responder to provide detailed sense of how they would—what science would they bring to it. What kind of context would they shape. What kind of science would they shape to do their study with. So, in the evaluation committee, you select people who have expertise in that area, or have specific expertise around epidemiology of the way we’ve talked about this process. This would be a combination of community members that by law has to be three County members on that committee, and then a series of PhD’s who have expertise in that area, and the group was very clear about wanting to make sure that there was good science and good background in the evaluation process. So, whether, you know the role of the Planning Commission, which is I think what you’re asking, Commissioner, is a complex review process. I don’t know how you would go about including the Commissioners consideration of applications. I frankly don’t see a way that the Commission would necessarily be involved in the evaluation of the proposals, but the goal is to find as much, as much qualified expertise to provide a professional judgment on which one of these studies makes the most sense, which one of these proposers makes the most sense. Does that answer the question? HEAUKULANI: It helps me. HENKEL: Mr. Chair? MIYASATO: Commissioner Henkel. HENKEL: Yeah, is—is this an all or nothing situation cause if we happen to you know not recommend it and go for a delay is, is this money not going to be used for a study or are you guys gonna come up with something else? I’m—you know, I live in the area just a few miles downwind from geothermal, and I’ve been impacted you know from ’91 and recent activities, too, and I really sympathize with these people, but I’m also the kind of guy that, you know, if you offer me a cupcake now or a cupcake in a half hour, I just, I want to eat the cupcake now because I don’t want to—I don’t know if we’ll both still be there in a half hour, and I would hate to you know to try to delay this funding, and then have it, have it not be available at all. So, I mean, help me out here. DAYTON: I think the reason it’s before you today is that there is, there’s a strong desire on the part of the community for many years now to get to the bottom of this in some sense, to get a scientific inquiry and to get it moving, and I think you heard that in some of the testimony today. Honestly, I remember sitting through a meeting before this Commission a little while ago when the County was in fact scolded for not moving quickly enough on this, and I understand the frustration. I’ve listened to concerns about geothermal since the nineties. I think all of us have. So, you know, would we give up and walk away? No, but I think this is something that the community’s been asking for, for a very long time, and frankly you know, the Mayor feels it’s the right thing to do, and it’s, it’s a well thought out process, a well thought out study, and it’s appropriate. Am I answering your question? 25 EXHIBIT F HENKEL: Well, yah, but I mean, what we’re hearing here today is that, that a month ago was a game changer, you know, I think up until a month ago, everybody would say, yeah, let’s do the study, it’s way too late and better late than never, but a month ago was a game changer, and I think that’s what a lot of the concern is out there right now. It’s a different ballgame. MELROSE: Well, I think the, the issue really is, we can’t go out to bid at all until there’s money enabled to do this, so this is an enabling act. The RFP is not a final RSP if the community or if we feel like it needs to have some additional thoughts to it, so I mean, I think there’s you know, and I speak for the Mayor’s office, but if there were specific ideas that could be added to the scope that would be integrated to it that makes sense. I think like Dr. Maddock said, the structure for that concern, for addressing the concern of the most recent event, is already in it. It’s not a very specific RFP. It doesn’t detail a lot of the details. It gives you the general context, and you have people come and give you their best science. So, I think delaying only sets us, sets the process back, and it doesn’t, it doesn’t going to accomplish anything different then just kind of opening the door for some additional thoughts to add to the RFP. It’s not a locked-down piece. But, we thought we’ve gotten it down based on the agreement of the community, and then the events happened, and so, what science could you do? I haven’t heard that science piece yet, but all of that is I think intended to be part of the next step, is to include these kinds of events as part of the study basis. HENKEL: One more question. Do you think it’d be possible for some of the people that have been you know gathering their own data like the Puna Pona Alliance to take part in the implementation of this so that they can help do the shaping that you’re talking about as it goes? MELROSE: I think both Bob and Tom were, have attended all of those sessions, shaped the existing RFP that’s there today, and if they have additional thoughts, then they should you know bring them forward. I think there’s not a—there’s specific ways. They have the draft of the RFP that we worked on and the content of it, the real heart of it. So, if there are additional thoughts and specific pieces of it, let’s hear it. Let’s, you know, let’s—the purpose is this is going to make this the best thing we can do. We’re trying to get to the best science in the best way and in the most responsible way so that at the end, it doesn’t become a one person study or another but it becomes the best way to get to the topic, and having Jay help us do this has been a big part of getting that clarity and understanding what this is. This is out of our wheelhouses, government employees in many ways, very helpful to do that. So, you know, I think the goal is not speed, but to get it right. This action is really about just, is the money available to do it. Is this a reasonable expenditure of geothermal asset funds, money. And if it is, then let’s go ahead and do it, and let’s make sure when we get it done, that we do it in the very best possible way. HENKEL: Thank you. MIYASATO: Any other questions, Commissioners? Thank you. Commissioners, any discussion? If not, I’ll accept a motion. HENKEL: I’m a little troubled by this, but I want the funding that’s been offered you know to, to be used, and to start, and hopefully, the area residents will be able to kind of help shape how it’s funded—maybe a good portion of it could go to the, you know, the Puna regional medical 26 EXHIBIT F center there, and they can do outreach, you know what I mean? I’m really confused, but, still I’m worried that if we, if we delay it anymore, than it’s just you know, it’s not going to be positive, so I make a motion that the Windward Planning Commission accept the claim adjuster’s recommendation and award $750,000 from the Geothermal Asset Fund to conduct a geothermal public health study as it appears fair, reasonable, and appropriate to the description of the claim, and will benefit a majority of the Puna residents most directly affected by the activity permitted or not permitted by Geothermal Resource Permit No. 2. MIYASATO: Okay, I have a motion on the floor. Do I have a second? HENKEL: Can I modify the motion? MIYASATO: You can. HENKEL: Okay, I’d like to move that the Windward Planning Commission deny the claim adjuster’s recommendation to award the $750,000 from the Geothermal Asset Fund to conduct a geothermal public health study as it appears fair and reasonable and appropriate to the description of the claim, and will benefit a majority of the Puna residents directly affected by the activity until a viable alternative, until a viable alternative can come up. MIYASATO: I have a motion on the floor. Do I have a second? HENKEL: Work with me gang. Okay— MIYASATO: I have no second on the floor. Do I have any other motions, Commissioners? HEAUKULANI: Could you clarify the motion that’s on the floor? Your motion to deny. HENKEL: Well, the first motion was to approve. I withdrew that, and then submitted a motion to deny until an alternative plan can be drawn up. And please forgive me if that’s not— HEAUKULANI: I’d like to move that we go into executive session. MIYASATO: Is there a second? HENKEL: Second. MASUNAGA: To consult with the attorney. Charlie, you have to be more specific. HEAUKULANI: Executive session to talk about our options with regards to both the Mayor’s proposal on the geothermal public health study and our options on the motions before us, and for purposes of that, I’d like to consult with Corp Counsel, please? MIYASATO: Do you second that? HENKEL: Second. 27 EXHIBIT F MIYASATO: All in favor? COMMISSIONERS: Aye. MIYASATO: Any opposed? Motion carries. At 3:35 p.m., it was moved by Commissioner Heaukulani and seconded by Commissioner Henkel that the Commission go into executive session to consult with its attorney regarding questions and issues pertaining to the Commission’s powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and liabilities, pursuant to Hawai‘i Revised Statutes Section 92-5. A voice vote was taken of all Commissioners present, and motion carried with four aye votes. At 3:38 p.m. the Commission went into executive session. At 3:52 p.m., it was moved by Commissioner Henkel and seconded by Commissioner Moses that the Commission go out of executive session. A voice vote was taken of all Commissioners present, and motion carried with four aye votes. The hearing reconvened for regular session at 3:54 p.m. MIYASATO: Okay, I’d like to call the meeting back to order. Okay, Commissioners, is there any further discussion? If not, I’ll accept a motion. HEAUKULANI: I’m going to move that we accept the claim adjuster’s recommendation and to award $750,000 from the Geothermal Asset Fund to conduct a Geothermal Public Health Study as it appears fair, reasonable, and appropriate to the description of the claim and will benefit a majority of Puna residents most directly affected by the activity permitted or not permitted by Geothermal Resource Permit No. 2 with the additional request to seek input from the Center for Disease Control and the Environmental Protection Agency, and with an annual report to this Commission on the status of the RFP. HENKEL: I second. MIYASATO: Motion by Commissioner Heaukulani and seconded by Commissioner Henkel. Any discussion on the motion? You can call the roll. ARAI: Okay, I’ll call the roll. Commissioner Henkel, I mean—sorry, Commissioner Heaukulani? HEAUKULANI: Aye. ARAI: Commissioner Henkel? HENKEL: Aye. ARAI: Commissioner Moses? 28 EXHIBIT F MOSES: Aye. ARAI: And Mr. Chairman. MIYASATO: Aye. ARAI: Mr. Chairman, motion carries with four aye votes. The discussion ended at 3:56 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Sarah Y. Hata-Finley, Secretary Windward Planning Commission 29 EXHIBIT F