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DEPARTMENT OF WATER SUPPLY
COUNTY OF HAWAII
WATER BOARD MEETING
February 24, 2015
West Hawaii Civic Center. Communitv Center. Blda. G. 74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Hwv. Kailua-Kona
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Rick Robinson, Chairperson
Mr. Craig Takamine, Vice -Chairperson
Mr. Russell Arikawa
Mr. David Greenwell
Mr. Kenneth Kaneshiro
Ms. Susan Lee Loy
Mr. Jay Uyeda
Mr. Quirino Antonio, Jr., Manager -Chief Engineer, Department of Water
Supply (ex -officio member)
ABSENT:
Ms. Brenda Iokepa-Moses, Water Board Member
Mr. Duane Kanuha, Director, Planning Department (ex -officio member)
Mr. Warren Lee, Director, Department of Public Works (ex -officio
member)
OTHERS PRESENT: Ms. Kathy Garson, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Mr. Jeff Zimpfer, National Parks Service
Mr. Alan Okamoto
Mr. Kevin Hayes
Mr. Sidney Fuke
Ms. Tomoko Matsumoto
Department of Water Supply Staff
Mr. Kurt Inaba, Engineering Division Head
Mr. Richard Sumada, Waterworks Controller
Mr. Daryl Ikeda, Chief of Operations
Ms. Kanani Aton, Public Information and Education Specialist
1) CALL TO ORDER — Chairperson Robinson called the meeting to order at 10:01 a.m.
2) STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
None.
3) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Chairperson entertained a Motion to approve the Minutes of the January 27, 2015, Water Board
meeting.
ACTION: Mr. Arikawa moved to approve; seconded by Mr. Greenwell; and carried unanimously
by voice vote.
4) APPROVAL OF ADDENDUM AND/OR SUPPLEMENTAL AGENDA
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None.
5) SOUTH KOHALA:
A. REQUEST TO CONSENT FOR ASSIGNMENT AND TRANSFER OF WATER UNITS —
MAUNA KEA PROPERTIES. INC.:
Mauna Kea Properties, Inc. (MKP), MK Parcel F, LLC (Parcel F LLC), and One Puako Bay
Associates, LLC (One Puako LLC) requests DWS consent to allow One Puako LLC, to receive
an assignment of I I water units from MKP's allocation from the Parker Wells 3 and 4 Tri -Party
Agreement (Agreement) dated April 6, 2006. Parcel F LLC and One Puako LLC have shared
ownership and under the management of the same individual, Mr. Kevin J. Hayes. Parcel F LLC
will limit their development to 74 units of water or 40 residential units, whichever results in fewer
units of water. The original estimate for water assignment to Parcel F LLC was 102 water units.
Tokyo Corporation, successor in interest to Mauna Lani Service, Inc. (MLS) and the third party in
the Agreement, has also consented to the 11 -unit assignment to One Puako LLC.
Although One Puako LLC is not in the development area as defined in the Tri -Party Agreement,
it is being served by the same system that provides MKP's allocation of water from the Tri -Party
Agreement.
Staff has reviewed the proposal and finds it acceptable.
The Manager -Chief Engineer recommended that the Water Board accept the consent documents
subject to the approval of the Corporation Counsel as to form and legality, and that either the
Chairperson or the Vice -Chairperson be authorized to sign the documents.
Ms. Garson noted that there was a Motion to approve on the table at the December 16, 2014,
Water Board meeting, before the Board deferred, so that Motion is still on the table.
Chairperson Robinson confirmed this, saying the Board would be continuing its discussion on
that original Motion.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that the Department stands by its Recommendation on this
Item, which is to approve and accept the consent documents. He noted that there had been two
areas of concern on the part of the Board at the December meeting. One area of concern, raised
at the time by Ms. Iokepa-Moses, involved setting precedents. The other area of concern was
raised by Ms. Lee Loy regarding the Department's Rules and Regulations. Regarding the matter
of setting a precedent, the precedent had already been set regarding the allowing of this kind of
transfer. The most recent example involved the Wai`aha agreement, whose parties were
primarily Mr. Dan Bolton and Kohanaiki. The boundaries on the initial Wai`aha agreement
extended from Wai`aha on the south side, to Palani Road. The amendment to that agreement,
which brought in Kohanaiki as a party, expanded the area from Palani Road, all the way to
Keahole. He said the Wai`aha situation was among other previous instances which set the
precedent for the current scenario; the Wai`aha case was recent enough for most of the Board to
recall. Regarding the concern about the Rules, the Manager -Chief Engineer said that there is a
Rule whereby DWS does not allow transfers, once a commitment is made to a property. DWS
does not transfer commitments to another property where no special agreements apply. He said
that the Rule was established so that DWS does not transfer commitments from one property to
another; if a commitment is made, the commitment stays with that property. The assignment in
question today is made through a special water development agreement; this agreement can be
amended with the Board's approval, he said. DWS has done this kind of special agreement
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before. The Manager -Chief Engineer said that the developer of the subject property, Mr. Hayes,
is in attendance, and can answer any questions that the Board may have. In the meantime, he said
that DWS remains supportive of its Recommendation as stated.
Mr. Greenwell, quoting from Item 4(d) in the Rules, said: "A water commitment issued for a
specific lot cannot be transferred to another lot." He said that he was reading that as a guideline.
It is quite clear that a water commitment from a lot cannot be transferred, Mr. Greenwell said. He
said that for the Board's sake, he wanted to consult with Ms. Garson on some of the
interpretations of the chapter on Water Commitments.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that he said that DWS does not transfer any commitments from
one parcel to another parcel, unless there is a specific water development agreement involved.
DWS has done transfers like the current Mauna Kea Properties case before, where there is a
specific water development agreement, he said.
Mr. Greenwell asked why, if the water is available, the parties cannot just apply for a meter and
take water off the line like anybody else. He also asked why the parties here cannot apply for 11
water units instead of seven.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said the water in this specific water system is available to the
developers in the Tri -Party Agreement, of which DWS is a signatory, conditional on the
developers doing certain things. He said water is not available to a land owner who is not a party
to the agreement; the Rule does not make water available to just any lot owner who wants to
subdivide his lot into two lots. That is because that lot owner is not in a specific water
development agreement.
MOTION: Mr. Greenwell moved to go into Executive Session to consult with Corporation
Counsel; seconded by Mr. Kaneshiro.
Ms. Lee Loy said that she too wanted to consult with Ms. Garson, but first she wanted to hear
from the developers.
Chairperson Robinson said okay, the Board could hold off on the vote regarding the Motion, and
in the meantime, the Board could hear from the parties who made the application.
Ms. Garson said it would be better to just withdraw the Motion for Executive Session.
Mr. Greenwell withdrew his Motion, and Mr. Kaneshiro withdrew his second.
(Messrs. Alan Okamoto, Kevin Hayes and Sidney Fuke moved up to the speaker's table)
Mr. Okamoto introduced himself as the attorney for One Puak6, and said that Mr. Hayes's
company was One Puak6 Bay Estates; Mr. Hayes is also involved with MK Parcel F.
Mr. Okamoto said the plan today was to briefly address the concerns raised by the Board during
the last two times this matter has come before the Board. He prefaced his remarks with the initial
disclosure that he had done legal work for Board Vice -Chairperson Takamine and his wife since
the Takamines started their business years ago. Mr. Okamoto also disclosed that his former
partner, now a judge, had done legal work for Board Member Arikawa and his wife.
Mr. Okamoto attested that he had never discussed Board matters with either Mr. Takamine or
Mr. Arikawa.
Mr. Hayes began his presentation with thanks to the Board for their patience. He said that the
matter at hand is very nuanced and complex. Since the Board deferred the matter at the
December 16, 2014, meeting, Mr. Hayes and his colleagues had worked with Ms. Garson to
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resolve any concerns that the Board may still have. He said that the parties had gone to great
lengths to craft an agreement that would be amenable to the Board. This agreement entails not
simply a transfer; this agreement is carefully designed to conserve water resources within the
Lalamilo Water System for the benefit of DWS and the public, he said. He said that he wanted to
articulate this by showing the math involved in the proposed agreement. Before going through
the math for the Board, Mr. Hayes noted that he first appeared before the Board in February of
last year, with Mr. Aaron Chung as his legal counsel. At that time, Mr. Hayes and his colleagues
were unable to obtain the signature of one of the three parties of the Tri -Party Agreement,
namely, Tokyu Holdings. The Board had been concerned about that issue, and Mr. Hayes and his
colleagues went to great lengths to secure that signature from Tokyu Holdings. Mr. Chung has
since moved on (to his current elected post at County Council), and so Mr. Okamoto has been
engaged as counsel. Mr. Fuke has been involved in this matter throughout the entire duration,
Mr. Hayes said. The Manager -Chief Engineer pointed out that the Board had expressed two
concerns at the December Board meeting. One of the concerns was about whether the Board had
the legal authority to act on the measure at hand; Mr. Hayes said he and his colleagues expect that
the Board will go into Executive Session today to confirm that. The second concern was about
setting precedents. Mr. Hayes said he did not believe that any precedents would be set here, but
if any precedents were to be set, they would be positive ones that the Board would want. Two
other issues were addressed by Mr. Hayes and his colleagues in a letter that was in the Board's
packets this month. One issue was about whether the transfer would benefit DWS; Mr. Hayes
said that he would address that today. The other issue involves what guarantees Mr. Hayes and
his colleagues would provide to ensure that these development restrictions would last. Mr. Hayes
said that he and his colleagues had addressed those specific concerns when drafting with Ms.
Garson the agreement to restrict development on both of these parcels into the future.
Mr. Fuke explained the math and the mechanics behind the transaction. Pointing to a map of the
area, Mr. Fuke explained that the donor parcel is the Mauna Kea parcel, which currently has an
allocation of 102 water units. If the transfer never happened, that parcel would be eligible for 102
water units. The project that Mr. Hayes is proposing, which has gotten preliminary subdivision
approval and planned unit development approval, involves a total of 36 single-family residences.
The amount of water that Mr. Hayes will voluntarily assign to the property would be only 74
water units. That works out to a balance of 28 extra units that are currently assigned to the
property. Tom Nance Water Resource Engineering did a study which determined how much
water was realistically required for this Mauna Kea property; the study concluded that the
property only really needs 56 units. Mr. Fuke said that the amount of savings that would be
accrued by the Mauna Kea property would be a total of 17 units and 18 units. Recapping, Mr.
Fuke said that of the 102 units that are currently assigned, there would be a total savings of 35
units that would go back into the system, either to the Mauna Kea system or, at some point, to the
DWS system. Mr. Fuke next spoke of the receiving property, which falls within the same service
region. Mr. Hayes wants to do a seven -lot subdivision on the receiving property; it is already
entitled for the seven lots. Mr. Fuke said that Mr. Hayes already has the SMA permit for it, and
has the subdivision application on file. The final subdivision approval could be issued upon
receipt of the additional four water units for the project that Mr. Hayes is proposing. Because the
property is already entitled to three separate water meters, Mr. Hayes wants to assign a total of 11
water units, for a total of 14 units to service his property. Therefore, each of the seven lots would
be eligible for up to two units of water, Mr. Fuke said. The Tom Nance study found that for the
Mauna Kea area, only 1.5 units of water per dwelling would be needed. The receiving parcel has
two units per dwelling. The Mauna Kea site has an irrigation system, whereas this receiving
parcel is non -irrigated, so it needs a little more water, Mr. Fuke said. The receiving parcel's lots
are considerably larger than the lots at Mauna Kea. Mr. Fuke pointed out that as a result of the
total amount of water that Mr. Hayes has right now for the property, there will be a realized
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savings of about 35 water units, which would be codified through a system of agreement that
Mr. Okamoto will talk about later.
Mr. Hayes asked to go over a third point. He said that currently, Puak6 has three lots, three
equivalent water units servicing those lots, and the average lot size is 2.3 acres. Under this new
agreement, there will be seven lots, with an average size of one acre per lot, and the developer
plans to double the amount of equivalent water units serving Puak6. He said that it is obvious
that this arrangement will improve the situation in Puak6; Mr. Hayes said that he and his
colleagues believe that by over -dedicating water resources on these parcels, it means giving back
or basically retiring equivalent water units to DWS. He expressed hope that the Board
understood the fundamentals of the business points here.
Mr. Okamoto drew the Board's attention to the summary that was submitted to the Board, in
which the areas of concern were addressed by Mr. Hayes, Mr. Fuke and himself. The Rules issue
was looked at vis a vis this transaction. He noted that the other two parties to the Tri -Party
Agreement, i.e., Mauna Kea Properties and Mauna Lani Services, have now signed off on this
transaction, whereas last February, Mauna Lani Services had not yet signed off. Mr. Douglas Ing,
the long-time attorney for Mauna Lani obtained the Mauna Lani signoff on the document, thereby
establishing that the other two parties are in agreement that this is an appropriate thing to do with
this water, Mr. Okamoto said. What remains now is the Water Board's consent, which is required
for the transaction to go forward. Mr. Okamoto said that he took a look at Rule 3-1, which is the
basic rule under which water service is available. He said that based on the DWS staff's
Recommendation, it is apparent that they are satisfied that water can be provided to Puak6
without system improvements. The question is where the water resource comes from the
Lalamilo well system. Because of the Tri -Party Agreement, DWS under its Rules is not free to
just approve the units; the parties must come before the Board because of the Tri -Party
Agreement, Mr. Okamoto said. He said that all of the criteria would be met for the issuance of
the water commitment, provided that the parties can satisfy where that water allocation comes
from. The water allocation comes from the Mauna Kea allocation, Mr. Okamoto said. Mr.
Okamoto said that he and his colleagues had looked at the benefits to the Department and the
residents of Hawaii, aside from the residents within Mauna Kea Resorts. Mauna Kea Resorts
benefits, obviously, by getting 17 more units to take care of the resort area's needs, he noted. In
addition, there are the additional 18 units due to water conservation, thanks to provisions that are
built into the Mauna Kea property, Mr. Okamoto said. Turning to the issue of whether the
assurances from Mr. Hayes and his colleagues would last, Mr. Okamoto said that the simple
solution was covenants, which would bind both lots to creating no more than seven lots for
Puak6, and no more than 36 residential units for MK Parcel F and its community center. That
assurance would be baked into the declaration, he said. Mr. Okamoto said his proposal would be,
with the Board's approval, to go ahead and sign these covenants and record them, as a condition
to the assignment. Mr. Okamoto said that after 30 years of practicing law, the covenants work;
they are nothing new or novel. Covenants in real estate development are very common, and they
are enforceable. He said that if the parties agree to go this route, the assurances will stick, no
matter who owns these two parcels down the road. Turning to the issue of precedent, the
Manager -Chief Engineer already addressed that, Mr. Okamoto said. He thought it appropriate
that DWS has looked at modifying terms of initial developments; Mr. Okamoto said he had been
around long enough to know that when a lot of these sources were under development, things did
not work out as expected. He cited the example of the Kahalu`u Shaft in Kona, which had been
looked to as the answer to everything back in the day; it did not work out that way. Mr. Okamoto
said that it is appropriate that the Board consider the impact of what it does, as well as possible
alternatives in Puak6. As far as alternatives, there are not many alternatives in Puak6; one cannot
dig a well there, because such an attempt would yield only salt water from the ocean. It is not
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possible to do a huge project for four additional lots either, he said. What Mr. Hayes and his
colleagues are left with is asking the Board to consider the transfer of these 11 units, under what
is built into this structure, Mr. Okamoto said. By transferring 11 units, 35 units are saved. He
said it was a reasonable deal, under the circumstances.
Addressing Mr. Greenwell's concern about Rule 4(d), Mr. Hayes said that the only references in
the Rules and Regulations that limit the transfer of water units are guidelines. Guidelines by their
very nature imply that the Board has discretion, he said. The conservation practices that are
enshrined in the agreement, whereby 35 water units are saved, trump a guideline, Mr. Hayes said.
That is precisely why it is a guideline, and not an explicit Rule; the Board has the latitude to
overlook a guideline in order to save water units for the public at the end of the day, he said.
Chairperson Robinson asked for more details on the Tri -Party Agreement.
Mr. Hayes said that the Tri -Party Agreement parties are DWS, Mauna Kea Real Estate Services
and Mauna Lani Services, Inc. Mauna Lani Services, Inc., was dissolved around 2010, and that is
why Mr. Hayes and his colleagues struggled to get a signature from Mauna Lani. The colleagues
searched and found two documents. One of the documents was the assignment document, which
assigned all of Mauna Lani Services' water rights to Tokyu Corporation. That means that today,
the third party in the Tri -Party Agreement is Tokyu Corporation. Mr. Hayes and his colleagues
secured the signature of a Mr. Toba, who was the former general manager here. Mr. Toba is now
in a position of authority at Tokyu in Japan, and he signed off on the Tri -Party Agreement
transfer documents as an officer of Tokyu Corporation. Mr. Hayes said that he had furnished a
copy of those documents to Ms. Garson, and Mr. Hayes said that he holds the actual copy which
will be furnished as soon as, hopefully, the transfer is approved by the Board.
Chairperson Robinson asked about Mauna Kea Properties.
Mr. Hayes said that Mr. Don Takahashi is president of Mauna Kea Properties, and he has signed
off on the transfer as well. A copy of that document has been provided to Ms. Garson.
Mr. Okamoto clarified that the documents with the consents have been presented to the Board as
well; it is in the record.
Mr. Uyeda asked Mr. Hayes to go over the math again. He asked Mr. Hayes to explain how 35 or
36 units were arrived at.
Mr. Hayes said okay, and pointed at the spot on the map that shows F Parcel. He said F Parcel is
a 17 -acre parcel, which is the Upland section of Mauna Kea. Currently, the zoning there allows
for 122 residences to be built. Years ago, Mauna Kea Properties assigned 102 water units to this
particular parcel as part of its master plan, Mr. Hayes said. He said that obviously, with those 102
units, a denser development could be done. Instead, as a condition of this arrangement,
Mr. Hayes and his colleagues want to reduce the density on this site to 36 residences.
Furthermore, Mr. Hayes and his colleagues in this agreement have required that non -potable
water only be used for all landscaping in F Parcel. That means non -potable water is to be used in
all common areas and in every yard; the only potable water supply is being used in residences for
domestic use. He gave details on the math again. Of the 102 equivalent water units, according to
the master plan, Mr. Hayes and his colleagues are assigning 74 units to F Parcel as part of this
agreement. They are deliberately over -assigning those 74 units, in spite of the Tom Nance study
based on historical data throughout the entire Upland section, which found that there is a use of
1.5 equivalent water units per residence, plus 2 units for the community center. Mr. Hayes said
that is how the 56 units were arrived at. He said that of the 74 units that were assigned, there are
28 surplus units. Of those 28 surplus units, 11 units are assigned to Puak6. That leaves 17 units
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which will remain in the general pool of Mauna Kea, Mr. Hayes said. He said that even though
DWS does not get back those 17 units, (i.e., the 17 units stay at Mauna Kea), that is a benefit to
the public because Mr. Hayes and his colleagues are giving Mauna Kea more supply, at their
control, to distribute to the other residents within the Mauna Kea area that they service.
Returning to the 74 units, Mr. Hayes said that of those 74 units, only 56 units are required. He
noted that if the agreement does not happen today, Mauna Kea is essentially no longer bound by
this agreement. In that case, Mauna Kea will not assign the 102 units, and will not assign the 74
units. Mauna Kea will only assign 56 water units to F Parcel, if Mr. Hayes and his colleagues
continue with this 36 -lot subdivision. Mr. Hayes said that at the end of the day, all of the
remaining difference between the 102 units and the 56 units will go back to the Mauna Kea pool,
and no water units would be retired. The deal today was deliberately engineered so that those 18
surplus units with the 74 units would be retired; they would go away; they would be baked back
into the Lalamilo water system. That is where Mr. Hayes and his colleagues are trying to provide
public benefit, he said. Mr. Hayes noted that he and his colleagues had considered trying to
assign those 18 units back to DWS; that question was posed to Mr. Hayes and his colleagues by
Corporation Counsel. However, that arrangement proved to be too complex, and that would set a
precedent. That would pose a difficulty, he said. The net effect of this current agreement would
be that Mr. Hayes and his colleagues would be effectively giving the units back to DWS.
Mr. Hayes asked Mr. Uyeda if that answered his question.
Mr. Uyeda said sort of. He asked for confirmation that, based on the covenants or proposals,
Mr. Hayes and his colleagues would not limit the project to 56 additional units. He asked if
Mr. Hayes and his colleagues would instead ask for the 74 units. He asked whether the surplus
would only be 17 units, and not 35 units; he noted that the 18 units go back to Mauna Kea, and
DWS does not get the benefit.
Mr. Hayes said that the 17 units go back to Mauna Kea, and DWS does not get the benefit.
Mr. Uyeda said plus the 18 units.
Mr. Hayes said that the 18 units are actually being carved away; those units will no longer be
available to be assigned anywhere else. He recapped, saying that the 56 units are being assigned,
along with the 18 units, to F Parcel, in effect deliberately over -supplying F Parcel with water
units. This will reduce the demand on the overall system, he said.
Mr. Uyeda said he understood about the 18 units, but was unclear about the 17 remaining units.
Mr. Hayes said that the 17 units go back into the general pool of Mauna Kea.
Mr. Uyeda said that those units could be used up if usage increases, based on the Tom Nance
report.
Mr. Hayes said that was correct. He noted that the 1.5 units in the Tom Nance report have a
considerable margin of safety in it; the actual use is closer to one unit. He said he would be
happy to provide that report, which shows all of the historical use in the Uplands of Mauna Kea.
Ms. Lee Loy asked about Parcel F, noting that the original zoning shows that 122 units were
allowed, but that Mr. Hayes and his colleagues plan to reduce that down to 36 units. She asked if
Mr. Hayes down -zoned the property as well, or reduced that by covenants.
Mr. Hayes said that he and his colleagues have provided two covenants to Ms. Garson. One of
the covenants is a permanent deed restriction, stipulating that only 36 residences can be built on
this site. The zoning on that will not change, but only 36 residences can be built on this site,
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Mr. Hayes said. The other covenant limits Puak6, which is zoned commercial; Mr. Hayes and his
colleagues by rights could build a hotel on that Puak6 site. The zoning on that site will not
change; but the covenant has limited it by the same kind of deed restriction, to only seven
residences.
Ms. Lee Loy asked how far as the crow flies F Parcel is from the Puak6 site.
Mr. Hayes figured it was about two miles as the crow flies; from gate to gate, it is probably about
one mile.
Mr. Uyeda noted that in the covenant for F Parcel, irrigation water will be used. He asked if there
was a source right now that was providing water to these areas.
Mr. Hayes said that Mauna Kea owns and operates its own non -potable water supply; the water
supply system already exists, and the F Parcel will tap into that.
Mr. Uyeda asked if it was just brackish water that is not treated wastewater.
Mr. Hayes confirmed this.
Chairperson Robinson called for a Motion to enter Executive Session.
ACTION: Mr. Greenwell so moved; seconded by Mr. Kaneshiro, and carried unanimously by
voice vote.
(Executive Session began at 10:39 a.m., and ended at 11:32 a.m.)
Ms. Lee Loy said she had a couple more questions for Mr. Hayes. One of the questions was
related to the certainty of the 18 surplus units; she asked what kind of certainty the Board has that
the 18 units would remain surplus ones. She said she was concerned about a scenario whereby
one of the other projects decided to expand a bit more, and wound up needing those surplus units.
Mr. Hayes said that Mr. Don Takahashi of Mauna Kea signed one of these documents, which
stipulates that there are 74 water units being assigned to F Parcel. That is the Board's assurance,
and the assignment of the 74 units would happen immediately. Mr. Hayes said that he and his
colleagues could make that assignment of 74 units a condition to the Board's approval.
Ms. Lee Loy said the Board likes that; she said she likes conditions.
Mr. Hayes said he believed that was in the consent documents.
Ms. Lee Loy said that one thing that she and Mr. Greenwell had brought up was related to Rule 5,
Item 4(d) regarding the terms of the water commitments. She quoted Item 4(d) as saying: "Water
commitments issued for a specific lot cannot be transferred to another lot." She said she wanted
to be clear on Mr. Hayes's references to the E.U.'s; she asked about his use of the terms "units,"
"water commitments," and "equivalent units."
Mr. Hayes said that those three terms all mean the same thing: 600 gallons per day of water use
equals one unit of water. He apologized for mixing up the terms.
Ms. Lee Loy asked if he was using them interchangeably.
Mr. Hayes said yes, he was using all of these terms interchangeably; they all mean 600 gallons
per day of water use.
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Mr. Uyeda said that it appeared that the additional 11 units of water being transferred to Puak6
from Mauna Kea/Mauna Lani did not entail payment of the normal Facilities Charge. Normally,
a developer would be paying a Facilities Charge for these equivalent units. Mr. Uyeda asked
Mr. Hayes if he would consider paying the Facilities Charge for these 11 units. He said that if
Mr. Hayes was in agreement, the Board could defer today's Action and come back next month
with some kind of agreement that allows for the payment of the Facilities Charge. He said he
would feel more comfortable with that in the agreement.
Mr. Hayes asked what the math would be on the Facilities Charge.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that the Facilities Charge would be $5,500.00 per unit times 11
units.
Mr. Inaba said the total would be $60,500.00.
Mr. Hayes asked if that were something he could agree to today.
Chairperson Robinson said that Mr. Hayes could agree to anything today.
Mr. Hayes told Mr. Uyeda that the short answer to his question is yes; he would agree to pay the
Facilities Charge.
Ms. Lee Loy thanked Mr. Hayes, and said that the Board would now want to insert some
language into the agreement that everybody could agree on as fair and equitable. She said that
the heartburn for the Board was the moving of credits out of an area that was contemplated as a
developable area. She said there were examples where that scenario happened, and the
developable area actually expanded as the agreements were amended or contemplated again. She
said that in this situation today, that was not the case.
Mr. Hayes said that he understood that position. He noted that Puak6 is something of an
unrepresented party in the Tri -Party Agreement; Puak6 does not have any representation, even
though Puak6 is being serviced by the Lalamilo Water System. He said that he would be happy
to pay the administrative fee, i.e., the Facilities Charge.
Chairperson Robinson said that at this point he would entertain a Motion regarding this matter.
Ms. Garson said that the Board was just entertaining a Motion regarding deferring this matter to
next month; in the meantime, Ms. Garson would come back with all of the documents. She
envisioned the consent document would say something like "Consent subject to paying the
Facilities Charges for the 11 units." She said that the Board would be able to see all of the
documents together next month.
Mr. Hayes asked whether, instead, the Board could approve the transfer, conditioned on
Mr. Hayes resolving with the DWS staff the satisfactory resolution toward payment of the
Facilities Charge.
Chairperson Robinson said that was his point exactly; the Board could approve, and just leave the
paperwork up to Mr. Okamoto and Ms. Garson.
Mr. Uyeda said that the Motion right now is to approve the transfer of the 11 units from the Tri -
Party Agreement to the Puak6 property.
Ms. Garson said yes, someone would need to Amend the Motion, because of that condition (i.e.,
the payment of the Facilities Charge). She asked if there were another condition.
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Chairperson Robinson said it was not an Amendment because there was no Motion yet.
Ms. Garson said no, the Motion was the one brought back from the December meeting. That
Motion was to approve the consent.
Mr. Uyeda said that he would just Amend that Motion.
Chairperson Robinson confirmed that he would be Amending the Motion from two months ago.
AMENDMENT TO MOTION: Mr. Uyeda moved to Amend the Motion, to approve the transfer
of the 11 units, on condition that a Facilities Charge be paid for the 11 units.
Ms. Lee Loy asked to add to the Motion.
Chairperson Robinson asked Ms. Lee Loy to wait; Mr. Uyeda had moved to approve the transfer
of the 11 units, subject to the Facilities Charge being paid.
Mr. Kaneshiro seconded.
Chairperson Robinson asked if there was any Amendment to the Motion.
Ms. Lee Loy said yes, she wanted the extra assurances that the 18 surplus units remain in surplus.
She asked Mr. Okamoto to refine the language in the contract or the amendment to the contract,
to capture that assurance.
Mr. Okamoto said that based on Mr. Nance's study, requiring that two equivalent water units be
assigned to each of the units would result in 74 units in F Parcel; this would achieve the 18 units
of savings. The best projection indicates that the project will not come close to that; there will be
the 18 surplus units, Mr. Okamoto said.
Mr. Hayes said that he believed that Ms. Lee Loy wanted to covenant that the 74 units get
assigned to F Parcel. He asked if Ms. Lee Loy was simply asking for that.
Ms. Lee Loy said simply put, that was correct.
Mr. Hayes said yes, he understood that was what Ms. Lee Loy was asking for; he suggested that
this is in the document.
Ms. Lee Loy said it is in there, but the language in the various documents speaks to each other.
That is the problem that the Board has had in the past, where some agreements have certain
language that points to certain other conditions, while other documents stand alone. She just
wanted all of the language to be consistent throughout all of the documents. She was concerned
that if that property continues to be zoned as such while the covenants hold, somebody could go
back and amend the covenants while the original zoning remains. The developer could take that
density right back up, Ms. Lee Loy said.
Mr. Okamoto said that he and his colleagues had submitted proposed covenants on both parcels,
which say in no uncertain terms that any amendments to those covenants can only be made with
the Board's permission, in writing. He said that is why the covenants were done.
Ms. Lee Loy said okay.
Chairperson Robinson asked Ms. Lee Loy if she made a Motion.
Ms. Lee Loy said she did not.
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Chairperson Robinson asked Ms. Lee Loy if she were okay with everything.
Ms. Lee Loy said yes.
Chairperson Robinson returned to Mr. Uyeda's Amendment to the Motion, which was seconded
by Mr. Kaneshiro.
ACTION: Amendment to the Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
Ms. Garson said that now the Board needs to vote on the original Motion as Amended; the
original Motion is the one to approve the consent, from two months ago.
ACTION: Main Motion as Amended carried unanimously by voice vote.
6) MISCELLANEOUS:
A. DEDICATION OF WATER SYSTEMS:
The Department has received the following document for action by the Water Board. The water
system has been constructed in accordance with the Department's standards and is in acceptable
condition for dedication.
1. GRANT OF EASEMENT AND BILL OF SALE
Grantors/Sellers: Edward J. Rapoza and Rhondall K. Rapoza, Robert D. Triantos and
Richard S. Fallon and Nancy T. McKinley
Tax Map Key: (3) 7-6-011: 03 (portion), 009 (portion) and 019 (portion)
Facilities Charge: $79,380.00 Date Paid: 02/04/2015
Final Inspection Date: TBA
Water System Cost: S TBA
The Manager -Chief Engineer recommended that the Water Board accept this document subject to
the approval of the Corporation Counsel and that either the Chairperson the Vice -Chairperson be
authorized to sign the document.
Mr. Inaba requested that this Item be deferred to the March Board meeting, because the final
stakeout and the final inspection are still pending.
ACTION: Ms. Lee Loy moved to defer to March Board meeting; seconded by Mr. Uyeda, and
carried unanimously by voice vote.
B. DEPARTMENT OF WATER SUPPLY PROPOSED OPERATING AND 5 -YEAR
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS (CIP) BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR
(FY) 2016:
The Department's FY 2016 Operating Budget, totaling $53,174,000, and 5 -Year CIP Budget for
FY 2016 — 2020, has been distributed for the Board's review.
The Manager -Chief Engineer recommended that the Board approve a public hearing to be held on
Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 9:45a.m., prior to the Water Board's regular meeting, to accept
public testimony regarding the Department's FY 2016 Operating and CIP Budgets.
MOTION: Mr. Kaneshiro moved to approve; seconded by Mr. Greenwell.
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The Manager -Chief Engineer said that there may be questions or amendments to the Budget
arising from the Public Hearing, which can be taken up at the regular meeting right after the
Public Hearing.
ACTION: Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
C. UPDATE RE: NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE'S PETITION TO DESIGNATE
KEAUHOU AQUIFER AS A GROUND WATER MANAGEMENT AREA:
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that the Mayor's office has worked closely with the Deputy
and himself to schedule the initial meeting with National Parks Service (NPS). The meeting is
scheduled for March 3 in the Mayor's Office at the West Hawaii Civic Center, and will be
attended by DWS as well as Mr. Roy Hardy, the Acting Deputy Director of the Commission on
Water Resource Management (CWRM).
Mr. Greenwell said that he assumed that this would be a private meeting.
The Manager -Chief Engineer confirmed this; besides the Mayor's Office, he, the Deputy, and
Ms. Aton will be there, plus NPS staff and Mr. Hardy from CWRM.
Ms. Lee Loy asked about the recent CWRM meeting regarding the scope of services for DWS's
Water Use and Development Plan (WUDP).
The Manager -Chief Engineer thanked Ms. Lee Loy for the reminder.
Mr. Inaba, who attended the meeting on Oahu on February 18, 2015, said it was basically about
the scope of the WUDP. CWRM approved the scope, with a couple of amendments that the
Commission wanted to include. One of the amendments involved an attempt to assess
Traditional and Customary Practices. The Commission gave DWS a couple of leads as to where
to start. DWS needs to submit to CWRM a preliminary assessment of where DWS is by May
30"'. That will be 15 days after DWS's draft scope is submitted for Phase 1. DWS has broken the
scope up into Phase 1 and Phase 2. Phase 1 is what DWS originally scoped with Fukunaga &
Associates; the scope has already expanded within Phase 1. Meanwhile, DWS needs to work out
the scope of Phase 2. DWS also needs to come up with a budget or an estimate, so that DWS can
enter into another agreement to do Phase 2 of the WUDP. He noted that Phase 2 is something
that CWRM is requiring of DWS. CWRM is saying that they understand DWS's budgetary
constraints. CWRM wants DWS to do Phase 1, and by the time DWS finishes the draft of
Phase 1, CWRM also wants the scope of Phase 2 submitted two weeks after that.
The Manager -Chief Engineer clarified that a draft of Phase 1 is to be submitted prior to May 30" .
Mr. Inaba said the deadline for the draft of Phase 1 is May 15"'.
The Manager -Chief Engineer asked if Phase 2 was due sometime after May 30"'.
Mr. Inaba confirmed this.
Ms. Lee Loy, noting that Phase 1 has expanded in terms of scope of services, asked whether that
meant that the cost has also expanded.
Mr. Inaba said that was most likely. It will not be clear until Fukunaga & Associates take a look
at the scope and give a good estimate on what it will cost. He said that the expanded scope is
beyond what DWS contracted Fukunaga & Associates for.
Ms. Lee Loy asked what the contract amount was.
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Mr. Inaba said it was $50,000.00.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that the Department would come back to the Board if
additional funding is required.
Mr. Inaba said that it was likely that the Department will come back to the Board next month.
Mr. Greenwell asked if an Executive Session would be necessary.
Ms. Garson said that she did not have anything that she needed to tell the Board.
Mr. Uyeda asked about the additional charges related to the expanded scope of services; he asked
if CWRM could be asked for that additional funding, since CWRM is the one requiring DWS to
do expanded work.
Mr. Inaba said that that subject was actually raised at the meeting. One Commission member said
to the rest of the Commission that it would be reasonable for CWRM to ask the Legislature for
funding to help out with this, he said.
Mr. Uyeda said that DWS should ask whoever the Department needs to ask.
Chairperson Robinson and Ms. Lee Loy said they were not too proud to ask.
Chairperson Robinson recommended that the Board watch a news clip of Senator Brian Schatz's
discussion at the high school in Hilo; he did not elaborate.
D. EXECUTIVE SESSION RE: NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE'S PETITION TO
DESIGNATE KEAUHOU AQUIFER AS A GROUND WATER MANAGEMENT AREA:
The Water Board had anticipated convening an executive meeting, closed to the public, pursuant
to Hawaii Revised Statutes, Sections 92-4, 92-5(a)(2), to discuss mediation as directed by the
Commission on Water Resource Management regarding the National Park Service's petition to
designate Keauhou Aquifer as a Ground Water Management Area, and for the purpose of
consulting with the Water Board's attorney on questions and issues pertaining to the Water
Board's powers, duties, privileges, immunities and liabilities.
(The Board did not go into Executive Session)
E. DISCUSSION OF AMENDING RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING PLACING
RESPONSIBILITY WITH PROPERTY OWNERS FOR TENANTS' DELINQUENT
BILLS:
Ms. Lee Loy said that she is still trying to get a hearing date for the new bill, Senate Bill 110
(SB 110). Unfortunately, the Legislature was busy with Governor Ige's appointments and other,
more pressing matters, to get the new governor's administration up and running. Ms. Lee Loy
said that as soon as she gets a date, she will notify the Manager -Chief Engineer and Department
staff. She also asked Ms. Bobby -Jean Leithead-Todd, the Director of Environmental
Management, to help nudge legislators for a hearing date; she noted that SB110 helps the
Department of Environmental Management (DEM) with collecting delinquent sewer bills.
Ms. Garson pointed out that Ms. Lee Loy was speaking to the next Item on the Agenda, 6(F).
Chairperson Robinson said yes, Item 6(E) should be under discussion.
Ms. Lee Loy apologized for getting it mixed up.
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Ms. Garson noted that she did not think that there was a Sub -Committee to look at the Rules
regarding owners and tenants' delinquent bills.
Chairperson Robinson did not think there was such a Sub -Committee.
Ms. Garson said she did not have a chance to get together with Ms. Lee Loy to look at the Rules
and Regulations; everybody seemed to look in Ms. Lee Loy's direction on this Item.
Ms. Lee Loy has been acting as kind of a Sub -Committee of one person, with Ms. Garson as sort
of the other member, she said. Ms. Garson said in any case, she had not had a chance to meet
with Ms. Lee Loy on this matter.
Chairperson Robinson said he seemed to recall he was on that Sub -Committee, too. He said that
the amendment of the Rules and Regulations is an important item for the Board.
Ms. Lee Loy agreed, and noted that there was a framework of the amendment that came up a year
ago.
Ms. Garson said that was correct.
Ms. Lee Loy said that it would really be a matter of refining and bringing back that framework.
She said that there are a few other things going on right now that have prompted her to look at
other sections of the Rules and Regulations, with an eye to refining them and creating processes
that would help future Boards to deal with various issues.
Chairperson Robinson asked that Ms. Garson, Ms. Lee Loy and he have a conference call at the
earliest convenience. He asked that Ms. Garson email him and Ms. Lee Loy with a time that
would work.
Ms. Garson said yes. She noted that at the end of last year, she had said that the Board really
should be looking at a comprehensive review of all of the Rules and Regulations, because of
various things that had come up. Ms. Garson said that the Board should take a look at the Rules,
and start marking them up. She suggested that if anyone needed her help, Board members could
just email her, and she would be happy to help work on it.
F. AD HOC COMMITTEE PURSUANT TO HRS SECTION 92-2.5(B) TO PRESENT
DISCUSS AND/OR NEGOTIATE FOR LEGISLATION REGARDING THE
PLACEMENT OF SUCH LIENS ON REAL PROPERTY FOR NON-PAYMENT OF
WATER BILLS:
The Ad Hoc Committee is exploring legislation pursuant to HRS Section 92-2.5(B) which would
allow the placement of an automatic lien on property for non-payment of water bills. The Ad
Hoc Committee will present, discuss, and/or negotiate for such legislation with any necessary
person including, but not limited to, any water or wastewater department or division of any
county, and/or with any legislators in the State of Hawaii.
The Ad Hoc Committee is also exploring a revision of the Department of Water Supply Rules and
Regulations to hold a property owner responsible for any water bill for water service to such
property, whether or not the property owner resides on the property; and that no water service
will be granted to such property until all such delinquencies are paid or other agreement is
reached.
Chairperson Robinson noted that this Item was handled earlier.
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Ms. Lee Loy requested that any Board members who had contacts among the legislators should
call them and ask for their help in getting SB110 heard.
G. MONTHLY PROGRESS REPORT:
Mr. Arikawa asked Mr. Inaba about progress on the Queen Ka`ahumanu Highway Widening
project.
Mr. Inaba said that DWS is still negotiating with State Highways on the Tri -Party Agreement,
which involves contractor Goodfellow Brothers, DWS and State Highways Division of the
Department of Transportation. Under negotiation is the cost to redesign, caused by the
realignment of the Highway. Mr. Inaba said that there are minor legal language differences
between Goodfellow's attorney and the Attorney General.
Chairperson Robinson asked if it was for the construction contract itself.
Mr. Inaba said it is for just the realignment portion, which comprises about half of the contract.
The realignment on the south end of the Highway entails moving the road more mauka. As a
result, Goodfellow had to get their design team to redesign the entire highway. Mr. Inaba noted
that the cost to redesign the waterline was unacceptable; DWS decided to participate in the
redesign to bring the cost down. That is the Tri -Party Agreement, he added.
Mr. Greenwell asked if there were any problems with DWS's pipes that are stored down by the
Highway; he asked if that pipe would be usable.
Mr. Inaba said the pipes would be inspected; they are in fair condition. The problem is with the
gaskets, he said. DWS had told the State that the Department would not accept the gaskets; the
State will have to replace all of the gaskets, which are exposed to the elements.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said he hoped that Mr. Inaba told the State that DWS is not going to
pay for new gaskets.
Mr. Inaba said that he had told the State that the gasket problem was caused by the project delay;
that is the position that DWS is taking. He said that he believed that the contractor would want
that, too, because the contractor would otherwise be responsible for any leaks.
Chairperson Robinson said that it was so unfortunate that this project could have gotten underway
when the economy was really slow; the construction project would have gotten 250 workers off
the bench and put them to work. That money would have filtered into the community, he said.
H. REVIEW OF MONTHLY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS:
Mr. Sumada told the Board that the auditors will be presenting their financial report at next
month's meeting. Also next month, Ms. Ann Hajnosz of Brown & Caldwell will present her five-
year rate study recommendations. This presentation should take 30 minutes to about an hour,
Mr. Sumada said. There will be two Public Hearings to hear testimony about the rate study,
tentatively scheduled for May 19 in Hilo and May 20 in Kona, both at 6:00 p.m. If those dates do
not work, Mr. Sumada needs to notify Ms. Hajnosz, who will fly in from the Mainland.
The Secretary said that the May 19 Public Hearing would be at the Aupuni Center in Hilo, and
the May 20 Public Hearing would be at the Council Chambers of the West Hawaii Civic Center
in Kona.
The Manager -Chief Engineer noted that the regular Board meeting is scheduled for the following
week.
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Chairperson Robinson said that he would be out of town for the two Public Hearing dates.
Ms. Lee Loy said that she could commit to those dates right now.
Mr. Sumada said that the dates could be changed.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that if the Board does not have a quorum, the dates would have
to be changed.
Ms. Lee Loy noted that Messrs. Kaneshiro and Greenwell will be off the Board by then.
Chairperson Robinson said that yes, there will be three Board absences for the May dates. He
suggested first getting the two new Board members on board, and then setting the dates for the
Public Hearings.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that the venues for the Public Hearings were reserved, but the
reservations could be changed.
Mr. Sumada said yes, the dates for the Public Hearings could be changed. He noted that
Ms. Hajnosz had asked that the Public Hearings be set up, but she understood that if there were
problems with the dates, the dates could be changed.
Ms. Lee Loy asked Mr. Sumada if there were any timing elements regarding adoption of the Rate
Study, concurrently with DWS's CIP Budget. She asked if there were any deadlines that the
Board has to meet.
Mr. Sumada said that it had been hoped to have the rates approved by June 30, 2015, for
implementation on July 1, 2015.
Chairperson Robinson said that if the Board replacements are in the offing by next meeting, the
Public Hearing dates could be set for June.
Mr. Sumada said that in the past, time was allowed between the Public Hearings and the Board
approval of the rates, in case the Public Hearings led to changes in the rates. He said that it would
take Brown & Caldwell at least a month if the Board decides to make any changes in the Rate
Study assumptions, recommendations, etc. Brown & Caldwell will need to re -work the numbers,
and it takes a while for them to come up with something new for the Board to look at,
Mr. Sumada said.
Chairperson Robinson said that Brown & Caldwell would have time if the Public Hearings were
held in June.
Mr. Sumada said that the July ls` start date is not hard and fast; that date could be pushed back.
Chairperson Robinson asked that DWS wait on scheduling the Public Hearings, until the two new
Board members are on board.
Mr. Kaneshiro noted that five years ago, he was brought on the Board in May, and Mr. Greenwell
was brought on in June. It could be July or August or later when the Public Hearings could be
held, he said.
Chairperson Robinson suggested waiting until the next Board meeting to see where matters stand.
Mr. Sumada asked if there were any questions about the Financial Statements.
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Chairperson Robinson asked about the $78,000.00 for Workman's Compensation (Workman's
Comp); he asked if that entry was due to DWS being self-insured.
Mr. Sumada said that number represents all of the settlements for Workman's Comp.
Chairperson Robinson asked whether DWS does it in-house or the County personnel office does
it.
Mr. Sumada said that the County has a Workman's Comp. Office; all of the claims flow through
them. That office generates the paperwork for DWS to pay for claims. He confirmed that the
Workman's Comp Office does the assessments, and DWS makes the payments.
Mr. Arikawa noted an increase in the Aging Summary for January 2015, versus January 2014.
Mr. Sumada explained that consumption was a little higher in January this year, versus January
last year. Meanwhile, rates are slightly higher this year than last year. The combination of those
two things explain the increase in the Aging Summary, he said.
Chairperson Robinson noted that the over -90 day delinquencies were down.
L MANAGER -CHIEF ENGINEER'S EVALUATION FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2014:
(This Item was continued from the January 27, 2015, Board meeting)
Chairperson Robinson asked that this Item be continued to the March Board meeting.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that was fine with him.
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
The Board had anticipated convening an executive meeting to consider the evaluations of the
Manager -Chief Engineer, as authorized by Hawaii Revised Statutes, Sections 92-4, and 92-
5(a)(2), 92-5(a)(4) and Hawaii County Charter Section 13-20(b), where consideration of matters
affecting privacy will be involved, and for the purpose of consulting with the Water Board's
attorney on questions and issues pertaining to the Water Board's powers, duties, privileges,
immunities, and liabilities.
The Executive Session was waived by the Chairperson's continuance of Item 6(I), MANAGER -
CHIEF ENGINEER'S EVALUATION FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2014 to the March Board
meeting.
K. MANAGER -CHIEF ENGINEER'S REPORT:
The Manager -Chief Engineer will provide an update or status on the following:
1) Pu`ukalalKona Ocean View Properties Subdivision Improvement District Update —
Mr. Inaba said that the pre -final walkthrough was scheduled for this Thursday or Friday;
all of the homeowners' connections have been hooked up. Chairperson Robinson noted
that the paving got a nice write-up in the paper. Mr. Inaba said the paper had
misunderstood; the reporter thought that DWS was doing a paving project, and asked
whether other things would be taken care of as well. DWS called to set the record
straight.
2) Lava Update — The Manager -Chief Engineer said that amid the stalling of the lava flow,
the temporary emergency water system had been dismantled.
3) Public Information and Education Specialist Update — Ms. Aton distributed her North
Kona Water System Information Sheet, with Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
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regarding the NPS petition, before posting it online, Ms. Aton wanted to give the Board
the chance to review and critique the Information Sheet. She noted that the FAQs
include the status of the petition, the designation issue itself, the protections that are in
place, the Keauhou Aquifer's state of health, the perceived impacts of designation, and
the implications of designation on customers' water service. Ms. Aton said that this
Information Sheet is a draft. There is a graphic included that shows the North Kona
Water System, indicating the general locations of the wells. Ms. Lee Loy said that this
was extremely helpful; she gets many calls from people seeking information about the
petition as they prepare to testify. She said that she and Mr. Uyeda had thought it would
be good to have a graphic that transposes the `Iao Aquifer, which is the major
designated ground water management area on Maui, over the Keauhou Aquifer. This
would illustrate the magnitude of the Keauhou Aquifer's area. She said that such a
graphic would help people understand the scale of what is at stake here.
Chairperson Robinson noted that the `Iao Aquifer is not even one-seventh of the size of
Keauhou Aquifer. Mr. Uyeda asked how many wells were down in the Keauhou
Aquifer at this time. The Manager -Chief Engineer said that four wells are down:
Hualalai, Honokohau, Kahalu`u B and Holualoa; DWS is monitoring the situation
closely. Meanwhile, DWS is currently able to maintain supply in the area. Mr. Uyeda
asked if any of the wells were close to being brought back online. The Manager -Chief
Engineer said that DWS is in the process of bringing the wells, but there are issues with
equipment, etc. He expressed hope that the West Coast dock lockout would end soon so
that equipment can be shipped over. Mr. Greenwell asked for an update on the Halaula
land negotiations. The Manager -Chief Engineer said that DWS is close to getting the
third appraiser on board. Mr. Inaba said that DWS is still waiting for the quote from the
third agreed-upon appraiser. The third appraiser was brought in to break an impasse
between the Department and the land owner; it was not just a matter of price. It was
also a matter of methodology. The parties have agreed to share the costs on the third
appraisal. Mr. Inaba said that the third party's appraisal must be done by specific
means, because federal funds will potentially be involved. If the third appraisal falls
between the DWS appraisal and the landowner's appraisal, that is where it is, Mr. Inaba
said. Mr. Greenwell asked about the Puako Pipeline project. Mr. Inaba said that it is in
the NPDES (National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) permitting stage.
Mr. Uyeda noted it could take a year to get the NPDES permit.
The Manager -Chief Engineer asked the Secretary to distribute to the Board a letter announcing his
retirement. He said that his last day of work would be June 30, 2015; he noted that he had served 40
years with DWS. The Manager -Chief Engineer said that he was leaving with a very clear conscience that
he was leaving the Department in good hands. He expressed appreciation for having the chance to serve
as Manager -Chief Engineer, and he said he really appreciated the Board. He said that he would carry on
working as normal, and help the Board through the transition. Ms. Lee Loy said that 40 years is amazing;
adding that she and Mr. Takamine often joke that they have not been alive long enough to serve 40 years
in one job. The Manager -Chief Engineer noted that 40 years is nothing, alluding to his late mother, who
passed away last week at nearly 109. Mr. Greenwell said it has been good working with Mr. Antonio; he
said that before he was selected for the job, there was some contention among the Board. However, the
Board finally got together to select Mr. Antonio as Manager -Chief Engineer, Mr. Greenwell said.
Mr. Greenwell offered his condolences on the passing of Mr. Antonio's mother. The Manager -Chief
Engineer said that 108 years is nothing to be sad about, and 40 years is nothing to be sad about.
Chairperson Robinson said that he was new to the Board when the selection process took place; he noted
that the Board received letters from the Legislature urging the Board to look outside the Department for
the Manager -Chief Engineer. Chairperson Robinson said that the Board selected Mr. Antonio, and it was
the right choice. The Manager -Chief Engineer thanked him. Chairperson Robinson said that Mr. Antonio
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had assembled a great team. The Manager -Chief Engineer said yes, he is leaving behind a good team,
and hopefully, that team will continue on with whoever the Board selects. The Manager -Chief Engineer
directed Ms. Garson to go through the selection process; he said he was not sure how the Board would go
about the selection, adding that it was really up to the Board. He noted that the process may involve
advertising for the position, conducting interviews, etc. Alternatively, someone might express
willingness to serve as Manager -Chief Engineer, and the Board might just approve that person, the
Manager -Chief Engineer said. Chairperson Robinson said yes, the Board went through the whole
process, including advertising, etc., for the recruitment last time. The Manager -Chief Engineer said he
was giving the Board sufficient time for the recruitment; the last time, the advertising went out in August
or September, and he had submitted his application in October of that year. The Manager -Chief Engineer
said that if the Board seeks his endorsement, he supports his Deputy, Mr. Okamoto, right now and all the
way through. The Manager -Chief Engineer said that he stands ready to provide Mr. Okamoto all the
support he can; he said he would back Mr. Okamoto all the way through.
Mr. Takamine said that as the newest Board member, he had been somewhat intimidated as he came onto
the Board; he thanked the Manager -Chief Engineer for having welcomed him with open arms and for
having an open door. He said that the Manager -Chief Engineer made him feel at home on the Board.
The Manager -Chief Engineer told Mr. Takamine that he is young and should consider seeking another
term on the Board, after waiting the required one year after his current term expires.
Mr. Arikawa said it has been an honor and a pleasure working with the Manager -Chief Engineer. He
thanked Mr. Antonio for being so warm and welcoming from the very first day that Mr. Arikawa stepped
into the office.
Mr. Kaneshiro said that he had known Mr. Antonio for a very long time; the Manager -Chief Engineer
knows a lot about all of the water systems here. Mr. Kaneshiro said that the Board had made the right
decision to select Mr. Antonio as Manager -Chief Engineer. Mr. Kaneshiro noted that many things have
come up during the past four and a half years, during which the Manager -Chief Engineer needed the
knowledge to answer questions, etc., amid the ongoing Keauhou Aquifer issue. Mr. Kaneshiro expressed
confidence that Mr. Antonio as a private citizen will participate in meetings, etc., and provide advice to
the Board.
The Manager -Chief Engineer said that if he were given the opportunity, he would like to serve on the
Water Board; he would have no problem serving on this Board, assisting the Department.
Mr. Kaneshiro thanked the Manager -Engineer.
L. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
No report.
7. CONTESTED CASE HEARING (NOTICED FOR 11:30 A.M.
A. CONTESTED CASE HEARING RE: WATER SERVICE ACCOUNT NO. 86530820-10
(TMK 7-8-017-020):
The above Contested Case Hearing was to take place in accordance with Chapter 91 of the
Hawaii Revised Statutes and Rule 2-5 of the Rules and Regulations of the Department of Water
Supply.
The issues involved in the above -referenced hearing were
Mr. Raymond and Ms. Victoria Kalman's appeal of the amounts shown due and owing on
account 986530820-10 and consequently, the appeal of the shut-off notice dated March 4, 2014.
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This hearing was set pursuant to Mr. Raymond and Ms. Victoria Kalman's written request of July
10, 2014.
Ms. Garson reported that the hearing was continued to the May 26, 2015, Water Board meeting,
at the request of the Kalmans' attorney, who had a scheduling conflict.
Chairperson Robinson said that the Kalmans' attorney actually asked to move the Contested Case
Hearing to 2:30 p.m. today, but that was not feasible.
Ms. Garson said she told the attorney that there might be quorum issues at 2:30 p.m., so the
extension to May was granted.
The Manager -Chief Engineer noted that he, one of the witnesses, would not have been here at
2:30 p.m. anyway, because he was due back in Hilo.
8) ANNOUNCEMENTS:
1. Next Regular Meeting:
The next meeting of the Water Board is scheduled for 10:00 a.m., on March 24, 2015, at the
Department of Water Supply, Operations Center Conference Room, 889 Leilani Street, Hilo, HI.
2. Following Meeting:
The following meeting of the Water Board will be held at 10:00 a.m. on April 28, 2015, at the
Department of Water Supply, Operations Center Conference Room, 889 Leilani Street, Hilo, HI.
10) ADJOURNMENT
ACTION: Mr. Arikawa moved to adjourn; seconded by Ms. Lee Loy, and carried unanimously
by voice vote.
The meeting adjourned at 12:34 p.m.
Secretary
The Department of Mater Supply is an Equal Opportunity provider and employer.
Notice to Lobbyists: If you are a lobbyist, you must register with the Hawai `i County Clerk within five days of becoming a lobbyist.
(Article 15, Section 2-91.3(b), Hawai `i County Code) A lobbyist means "any individual engaged for pay or other consideration who
spends more than five hours in any month or $275 in any six-month period for the purpose of attempting to influence legislative or
administrative action by communicating or urging others to communicate with public officials." (Article 15, Section 2-91.3(a) (6),
Hawai `i County Code) Registration forms and expenditure report documents are available at the Office of the County Clerk -Council,
Hilo, Hawai `i.
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