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HAWAI‘I COUNTY PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE AND NATURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES-REGULAR SESSION
May 11, 2015
West Hawai‘i Civic Center
Building G Conference Room
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway
Kailua-Kona, Hawai‘i 96740
Present: Chair Timothy DeLozier
Vice-Chair Barbara Bell
Commissioner Kai‘ena Bishaw II
Commissioner William Meyers
Commissioner Cynthia Nazara
Commissioner Marilyn Nicholson
Commissioner René Siracusa
Commissioner Kekaulike Tomich
Others Present: Craig Masuda, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Hamana Ventura, Property Manager, Finance
Alexandra Kelepolo, Property Management Technician, Finance
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chair Timothy DeLozier at 10:04 a.m. Mr. DeLozier welcomed
and introduced new commissioners Mr. Kai‘ena Bishaw (District 2), Ms. René Siracusa (District 5),
Ms. Cynthia Nazara (District 7) and Mr. Kekaulike Tomich (District 8).
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
No one present at this time.
PRESENTATION BY MS. JANET BRITT, ACQUISITIONS SPECIALIST/HAWAI‘I
ISLAND DIRECTOR, HAWAIIAN ISLANDS LAND TRUST (HILT) ON WHAT ARE
CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND THE MANY BENEFITS OF ACQUIRING AN
EASEMENT VS. FEE SIMPLE ACQUISITION
Ms. Janet Britt introduced Dr. Richard Bennett, Chairman of the HILT advisory council for Hawai‘i
island who will also be providing information for today’s presentation. HILT works with willing
landowners for fee simple acquisition however they mostly work with conservation easements (CE)
and to date have protected almost 18,000 acres.
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Ms. Britt asked “what is a conservation easement and what does it mean to you. She explained that it
is not an access, road or utility easement. A CE is a voluntary legal agreement between a landowner
and land trust or government agency and is designed to protect conservation values of property in
perpetuity. The landowner can continue to use the land with potential tax benefits in addition to
possible limited residential development. In addition, the CE does not allow public access unless the
landowner agrees to that provision.
Mr. Rick Bennett, a resident of Hawai‘i island for 15 years and a small farmer, has been involved in
land trusts from the early 90’s and spoke of how a CE is a very powerful tool and is being used in
counties all over the country to help conserve lands.
Some of the distinct advantages are that it’s more cost-effective than buying land in fee. A CE can be
purchased in fee by appraising the value of the land with and without its’ development rights or it can
also be donated. In Keōpuka, South Kona, Oceanside 1250 Partners donated a CE on 185 acres of
coastal land and were able to take the value of that donation as an income tax deduction under the
conservation provisions of the IRS code.
By purchasing a CE rather than fee simple there is a 30% discount, the monies that you have to
appropriate could be extended. This will ensure permanent protection of the lands and will run with
the deed in perpetuity. The land trust has the fiduciary and legal responsibility as holder to monitor
and enforce the terms of a CE. A CE is monitored and inspected annually by staff who works with the
landowner and prepares a report.
Ms. Britt noted that the County would be a signatory to the easement and would receive annual reports
from HILT. Mr. Bennett added that when HILT sits down with a willing landowner the terms of the
CE are mutually negotiated and agreed upon by all parties involved.
Mr. Bennett said that a lot of the CDP’s on this island talk about using CE to protect agricultural lands.
The opportunity cost on agricultural lands exceeds the value of operations. If we are going to
perpetuate agriculture the land needs to be affordable and CE around the country are being used to
remove that speculative value. If the landowner/farmer knows that this land is not developable it
changes their perspective.
Ms. Bell asked is the income tax deduction for the owner. Ms. Britt replied yes. Mr. Tomich added
that only if the land is donated. Ms. Britt noted that as an example they are asking PONC for
300,000.00 for the HCC Farms CE and the owner is donating 1 million. Ms. Bell clarified that they
would get a credit for 1 million and they would receive 550,000.00. Ms. Britt replied yes and noted
that the fee market value is 2.6 million for the whole parcel and is subdivided into 14 lots. If you take
away the development value, the CE will cost 550,000.00.
Mr. Masuda told Ms. Bell and Ms. Britt that they can’t talk anymore about this property since they are
going beyond the agenda item.
Ms. Siracusa asked what if something happens to a landowner and they have to sell the property, do
they have to disclose the CE to the new buyer. Ms. Britt replied yes, it’s on the title report and will run
with the land in perpetuity.
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Ms. Siracusa asked what if the buyer decides to do something to the land anyway and since monitoring
is only once a year a lot of damage can be done in that time. Has that ever happened and how would
you handle that. Mr. Bennett replied that it did happen in California a few years ago with a forest CE,
where a D9 showed up to bulldoze a forest of redwood trees and the eyes and ears of the community
worked by making some calls and stopping it before any damage could be done.
Ms. Siracusa noted that a CE does not allow public access however some of the parcels purchased by
PONC require public access since they are in coastal areas and in that case a CE might not be the best
way to go. What would be the criteria be that the Commission should be looking at for a CE as
opposed to a fee simple acquisition. Ms. Britt replied that if the CE is for an ocean parcel, public
access would be required; if it’s a coffee farm it wouldn’t be required since the CE would be to protect
the agricultural lands. In regards to the public access issue it would be determined on a case by case
basis. If PONC felt that public access was required it would be considered.
Ms. Britt thanked the Commission for their time.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. DeLozier asked if there are any changes to the minutes.
Motion: Commissioner Nicholson moved to approve the minutes of March 9, 2015, regular
session. Seconded by Vice-Chair Bell; Commissioner Siracusa abstained from the vote, all other
members voted aye, motion carried.
Mr. DeLozier asked if there are any changes to the minutes for the public hearing.
Motion: Commissioner Meyers moved to approve the minutes of March 9, 2015, public hearing
revising the Administrative Rules for PONC. Seconded by Commissioner Nicholson;
Commissioner Siracusa abstained from the vote, all other members voted aye, motion carried.
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
Mr. Kevin McCabe, a realtor from Kona is here to represent the lender of a 250-acre property to be
considered by the Commission. The property is located just south of Miloli‘i in South Kona, has ocean
frontage and sits between Miloli‘i village and Honomalino Bay.
Purchase of this property would open up access to Honomalino Bay which would benefit the public.
As a result of foreclosure, it is now owned by the lender and is currently listed for 1.75 million. An
archaeological report has been done and there are features on the property. The 250 acres consists of 4
separate parcels and is zoned mostly agriculture and conservation near the ocean.
The previous owner had an application in for a subdivision under a Planned Unit Development with
Planning Dept. and did obtain approval for 25 5-acre lots near the highway.
Ms. Siracusa asked if they will be able to see the archaeological report and also if there was a
biological report done. Mr. McCabe replied that the previous owner did order one which was
completed however did not pay for it so they don’t have the report.
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Mr. McCabe asked for clarification of the biological report. Ms. Siracusa replied a botanical survey,
native species, animal, insect, birds, etc. Mr. McCabe replied that he thinks it was included as part of
the report, however without the report he can’t answer that question.
Mr. DeLozier noticed that there are four separate TMK’s and in the nomination form there are two
maps. On one map there are three lots and one lot on the other map. Mr. McCabe noted that the lot
above connects to the highway and there is an easement from the highway that comes down and
connects to the top piece which is approximately 220 acres and the three pieces below runs to the
ocean.
Ms. Nicholson noted that the trail from Miloli‘i to Honomalino traverses this property and asked where
is this property in relation to the old cemetery. Mr. McCabe replied that it’s about 200 yards pass the
cemetery if you’re coming from Miloli‘i. There are two coastal trails, fishermens’ trail runs by the
water and above that there is a public easement that is excluded from the title report.
Ms. Nicholson asked if the road from the highway is the same one that the residents of Honomalino
use for access. Mr. McCabe replied that they use a road to the south, there is no road on this property,
it would have to be put in and to get to the ocean a road would have to be bulldozed.
Mr. DeLozier asked if there’s an appraisal or title report available, it would help the Commission with
their assessment. Mr. McCabe replied that he will look into that.
Ms. Bell asked if acquiring this property would make the access public. Mr. McCabe replied that the
Ala Kahakai Trail traverses through the property and is used by the public to access Honomalino.
Ms. Nazara asked who would put the road in. Mr. McCabe replied that there are no plans to put in the
road at this time.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
Communication No. 15-003: Suggestion Form received on March 11, 2015 from Kevin McCabe, re:
Lands of Kalihi, Tax Map Keys: (3) 8-9-03:05; 8-9-10:01, 02 & 08
Motion: Vice-Chair Bell moved to accept and file Communication No. 15-003. Seconded by
Commissioner Nicholson; all other members voted aye, motion carried.
Communication No. 15-004: Letter dated March 19, 2015 to Council Chair Dru Kanuha and Members
of the County Council from Mayor Billy Kenoi, re: Nomination of David K. Bishaw II, Council
District 2; Cynthia S. Nazara, Council District 7 & Kekaulike P. Tomich, Council District 8 to PONC
Motion: Commissioner Nicholson moved to accept and file Communication No. 15-004.
Seconded by Vice-Chair Bell; all other members voted aye, motion carried.
Communication No. 15-005: Letter dated March 23, 2015 to Chair DeLozier & PONC from Joseph
and Kelly Vitorino, re: Nomination of Niuli‘i in North Kohala on the 2014 Prioritized List (w/various
attachments)
Ms. Bell asked if this communication was forwarded to anyone. Ms. Kelepolo replied that this letter is
for their information and Finance will retain a copy in their files.
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Motion: Vice-Chair Bell moved to accept and file Communication No. 15-005. Seconded by
Commissioner Nicholson; all other members voted aye, motion carried.
CHAIRPERSONS REPORT
Mr. DeLozier had nothing to report.
Recess: 10:49 a.m.
Reconvened: 11:03 a.m.
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE REPORT
Mr. Ventura reported that the balance in the PONC Fund is about 4.8 million and about 1.2 million in
the PONC Maintenance Fund.
We expect to close two purchases this year, for Kahuku we are working on the due diligence for the
federal grant and the deadline to receive those funds is by September 30th. In regards to Pohoiki, we
are still awaiting land court approval for the subdivision and are expecting to close this year however
the time table is not exact due to the judicial process.
Mr. Meyers asked if the Commission would be able to attend the Conservation Conference in Hilo this
year. Mr. Ventura replied that he will review the information and get back to them. Mr. Tomich will
be attending and said that this year it will be in Hilo, everyone involved with conservation is present,
federal, state, non-profits and community members and it provides a lot of information.
Mr. Meyers also asked if the commissioners would be able to have business cards. Mr. Ventura
replied that he will also look into that.
Ms. Bell asked for an update of the Vacationland land trust. Mr. Ventura replied that last week the
Turtle Bay acquisition in O‘ahu went through so HILT agreed to put up half of the 3 million to be paid
each year so LLCP will have to put in 1.5 million. There should be adequate funds available to fund
the Wai‘opae acquisition. Ms. Bell asked if we anticipate acquisition in 2016. Mr. Ventura replied
yes.
OFFICE OF CORPORATION COUNSEL’S REPORT
Mr. Masuda re-iterated that any acquisition in land court takes a long time; there is only one judge and
one clerk for the state. Revisions were made to the map and re-submitted so we just have to wait.
Mr. Ventura asked Mr. Masuda to explain the difference between a regular system purchase and land
court purchase. Mr. Masuda replied that in regular system, you get a deed, file it and have it recorded
and it should take about two months. In the land court process, everything needs to be submitted and
must be very specific. It’s a judicial function, if something is incorrect to correct errors or file
anything you have to petition the court prior to it being recorded.
Mr. Ventura asked is it true that land court purchases are guaranteed by the State. Mr. Masuda replied
yes and no, it’s guaranteed that it’s been vetted through the court system but they will not compensate
you for any error.
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NEW BUSINESS
County of Hawai‘i Ethics Presentation to PONC by Deputy Corporation Counsel Craig
Masuda
Mr. Masuda told the Commission that the ethics guidelines also covers them as commissioners and
must be followed. There are eight major categories: Gifts, Gifts Disclosure, Confidential Information,
Favoritism/Fair Treatment; Supplemental Compensation; County Resources, Financial Transactions
with Subordinates & Conflicts of Interest. Since not all of these apply to this Commission, Mr.
Masuda will summarize those that do.
In regards to disclosure of confidential information it can be very important in dealing with land or
planning issues. For example if you hear about someone selling property or an easement, a CE can be
looked at as an impediment to a development right, it can influence the purchase price of the property
so it shouldn’t be discussed. Also, the commissioners shouldn’t be involved in the actual purchase or
financing of any parcels that come to PONC for consideration.
County property or county personnel cannot be used for your own personal gain.
Avoid going to a major landowner or company that comes before the board inviting them to a
fundraiser, this would be improper solicitation.
Acceptance of gifts of aloha is okay, something small and nominal. However if a gift is being
given with the intent to influence you don’t accept it.
The main thing to remember is that if it smells wrong, you will know it before it starts.
Sunshine Law Presentation to PONC by Deputy Corporation Counsel Craig Masuda
Mr. Masuda told the commissioners that the most important thing to remember is that the sunshine law
protects the publics’ right to know. Since they as a Commission have some control over how funds
will be spent to acquire properties that increases the publics’ rights to know. Mr. Masuda summarized
what can affect this Commission:
Discussions, deliberations and decisions between commissioners must be conducted at a public
meeting unless sub-committees are created.
Commitments or asking for commitments on a vote cannot happen in any form under any
circumstance.
Every meeting must be opened unless in executive session (discuss duties and liabilities of the
board or personnel issues) is allowed. What’s being recorded is confidential; however the
minutes will become public information once it’s over.
Do not discuss board business at lunch.
No caucuses, polling, telephone or e-mail discussions.
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Ms. Bell asked in regards to board business, what if a property has already been ranked and has been
on the list from years ago would that still be considered. Mr. Masuda replied yes and noted that
although it’s on the list, the prioritization could still be changed.
No serial communication is allowed, be careful to not reply to all, it’s a violation of the
sunshine law.
Reports made by the ad hoc committee for site visits should be submitted to the Commission as
a whole.
Private donations will not be a matter for executive session; it will be part of the board
discussion.
If videoconferencing is done in the future and there are some members in Hilo and Kona and
connection is lost; the meeting is shut down regardless of whether there’s still a quorum.
In regards to testimony, you might want to consider limiting to 3 minutes and make sure that
the testifier stick to the agenda topic being discussed.
The agenda must be posted six days prior and must be described in enough detail for the public
to know what is being discussed at the meeting.
The agenda can only be amended by 2/3 of the vote.
The minutes do not have to be kept verbatim, and must be available within 30 days of the
meeting.
Ms. Nazara asked if she saw Mr. DeLozier outside of the meeting, would she be able to discuss a
board item. Mr. Masuda replied that you can have a general discussion however if it’s asking him
to change a vote on an item that will be coming up at a meeting that wouldn’t be recommended.
Commissioners to report to Commission on any community meetings and/or Community
Development Plan (CDP) Committee meetings attended for public outreach
Ms. Siracusa reported that she’s a member of the Puna CDP and they are working on a land
management plan and outreach for the Vacationland Land Trust acquisition.
Ms. Bell reported that she attended the South Kohala CDP to present on PONC and explained the
process. She also talked about the commissioner vacancies and also noted that to date there hasn’t
been any properties acquired with PONC in their district.
Mr. Meyers reported that he and Ms. Kelepolo attended the Puna CDP and took brochures and a
display to explain about PONC and answer any questions. He also attended the Game Management
Advisory Commission meeting with Ms. Kelepolo and answered questions about PONC.
Mr. DeLozier met Council Member Valerie Poindexter at a neighborhood association meeting and will
follow-up with a meeting and once the Hāmākua CDP is established will attend those meetings.
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Ms. Nicholson is going back and forth with Council Member Maile David to do a PONC presentation
at a future community meeting.
Ms. Bell asked if the budget allows, business cards would be a good thing to have since a lot of people
have heard of PONC but are not that familiar. We could include the mission statement on the card also
along with their name and contact information. Mr. Masuda noted that it’s a good idea as long as the
budget can support it.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, July 13, 2015, 10:00 a.m. in the Hawai‘i County Building,
Puna Conference Room, 25 Aupuni Street, Suite #1501, Hilo, Hawai‘i.
Mr. DeLozier noted that back in January the ad hoc committee members were voted on and now that
we have new commissioners they can look at having this listed as an agenda item to give the new
members an opportunity to be on this committee. They will also discuss if site visits will be conducted
for properties submitted this year for consideration.
Ms. Bell will not be present for the July meeting however will be back in August and available for site
visits if necessary.
Ms. Kelepolo will follow up with Mr. Van Bergen to attend the July PONC meeting and provide an
update on issuance of the stewardship grants by Parks & Recreation.
Ms. Nicholson asked if they should decide in advance to restrict testimony to 3 minutes. Mr. Masuda
replied that it can be the call of the Chair at the meeting since we will not have time to do another rule
change.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Commissioner Siracusa moved to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Commissioner
Nicholson; all other members voted aye, motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 12:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Alexandra Kelepolo
Property Management Technician