HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-05-05 Hearing Transcript - James Ishii REZ 16-204WINDWARD PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAII
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
MAY 5, 2016
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of JAMES ISHII (REZ 16-204) was called to
order at 9:26 a.m. in the County of Hawaii Aupuni Center Conference Room, 101 Pauahi Street,
Hilo, Hawaii with Chairman Charles Heaukulani presiding.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Charles Heaukulani, Gregory Henkel, Donald Ikeda, Myles
Miyasato, and Raylene Moses.
ABSENT & EXCUSED: Donn Dela Cruz.
ALSO PRESENT: Duane Kanuha (Planning Director), Danny Patel (Deputy Corporation
Counsel for the Windward Planning Commission), Daryn Arai (Planning Program Manager),
Jeff Darrow (Staff Planner), Christian Kay (Staff Planner), and Sarah Hata-Finley (Commission
Secretary).
And 11 members from the public in attendance.
APPLICANT: JAMES ISHII (REZ 16-204)
Application for a Change of Zone from a Single -Family Residential -10,000 square feet (RS -10)
to a Neighborhood Commercial -10,000 square feet (CN -10) zoning district for approximately
58,500 square feet of land. The subject properties are located on the west side of Manono Street,
approximately 500 feet north of Waiakea House Lots, Waiakea, South Hilo, Hawaii, TMK: 2-2-
027:038, 039, and 058.
HEAUKULANL All right, we're going to move to the third item on our agenda. The Applicant
is James Ishii, REZ 16-204.
KAY: Thanks again, Mr. Chair. You get a double dose of me today. Again, this is an
application for a rezone. Applicant James Ishii. Again, the subject three parcels are located in
the South Hilo District of Hawaii Island; more specifically, in the Waiakea Houselots area of
South Hilo.
For reference, we've got Manono Street running north -south through the slide. We've got
Lanikaula Street running east -west and Leilani Street, again, running east -west for your
reference.
Zooming in a little bit closer, again, we've got the three subject parcels here. Currently zoned
for Residential —10,000 square feet as indicated in yellow. Other zonings in the area include
Neighborhood Commercial —10,000 square feet which is similar to what the Applicant is asking
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for. This was rezoned back in 2005. And, then again Industrial -Commercial Mixed Use here
indicated in purple.
The State Land Use Boundary Map designates the subject parcels and surrounding area as Urban
as indicated in pink. And, the General Plan Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide Map designates
the subject parcels in Medium Density Urban, which would allow for this type of Neighborhood
Commercial use. To the west is some High Density Urban indicated in red, and, to the northeast
is indicated as Industrial in gray.
Again, here are some photographs of the area. Here are the three subject parcels outlined in red
on the left hand side. The top parcel here is currently vacant. It's a little bit different from the
aerial photo in that it has been cleared and graveled. The two parcels to the south are that this
middle parcel has two existing single-family dwellings that would be demolished in order to, as
part of the proposed development. And, the bottom parcel, again, has an additional single-family
dwelling that would be demolished. This is, again, Manono Street running north -south through
the slide. This is zoomed in a little bit closer so you can see the three structures a little bit better.
There are three existing driveways off of Manono Street that the Applicant is proposing to use as
part of their development.
The Applicant is requesting a Change of Zone from Single -Family Residential – 10,000 square
feet to Neighborhood Commercial – 10,000 square feet for 58,500 square feet of land. The
Applicant is requesting this Change of Zone in order to develop a 14,000 -square foot steel frame
commercial building to be used as office space.
Here is the Applicant's submitted site plan with Manono Street running toward the top of the
slide east -west. It's just showing where, the general location of where the 14,000 -square foot
building would be and associated parking in front. Again, not shown here on the site plan, but
there are driveway accesses for each parcel off of the, off of Manono Street.
Here's a view of Parcel 38. This is the kind of the first parcel. Again, like I said, it's been
cleared and graveled. You can see the next parcel, the two single-family dwellings on the next
parcel that will be removed as part of this proposed development.
A view of Parcel 39 from Manono Street. Again, just showing the existing dwellings, and you
can see the site of the third, the dwelling on the third parcel, and the reason I put that in there
now is because it's very difficult to see from the front because of all the foliage that's in front of
the house.
Again, I just wanted to point out—and here, sorry here are some views of Manono Street
looking south. The subject parcels are on the right hand side and, again, Manono Street looking
north. The subject parcels are on the left-hand side. I wanted to point out very recently through
the County's Manono Street Improvement Project, they've gotten full roadway improvements
along the frontage of the subject parcels, including widening; curb, gutter sidewalks; drainage
improvements; and the like. So, there aren't any conditions requiring that of the Applicant since
they were already improved recently.
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The Planning Director is recommending to forward a favorable recommendation to the County
Council for this project, and I'm happy to answer any questions that the Commission may have.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, sir. Commissioners, anyone have questions for Christian? No?
Okay, could I ask the Applicant or his representative to please come forward? Good morning.
ESAKL Good morning. Oh, good morning.
HEAUKULANL Thank you for using the microphone. Could you please raise your right hand?
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Planning Commission?
ESAKL Yes.
HEAUKULANL Okay, and I'd like you to start off by stating your name, the area you reside in,
and then you can proceed to tell us what is on your mind this morning.
ESAKL My name is Amy Esaki, and I'm representing my brother, James Ishii. I reside on
Kauai, but I'm formerly from Hilo, Hawaii, and we are asking that the Commission have a
favorable recommendation for the Change of Zone request to be forwarded to the County
Council.
HEAUKULANL Did you have an opportunity or did—did you say your brother?
ESAKL My brother, yes.
HEAUKULANL Your brother. Did your brother have an opportunity to review the Background
Reports and the Recommendations from the Planning Director?
ESAKL Yes, he has.
HEAUKULANL Is, are those acceptable to him?
ESAKL Yes, he said it's acceptable.
HEAUKULANL Including the conditions?
ESAKL Yes.
HEAUKULANL Very well. Commissioners, any questions? Hearing none, you can take your
seat. That was relatively painless.
ESAKL Thank you. Yes, thank you.
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HEAUKULANL All right, we have three members of the public who have signed up to testify
on this matter, so I would ask a Lou Rhoades, Gail Rhoades, and Buel McCoy to please come
forward. Is there anyone else who wants to be heard on this matter this morning? Good
morning. I would ask the three of you to please raise your right hand, and do you swear or
affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Planning Commission?
TESTIFIERS: Yes.
HEAUKULANL Very well. It doesn't matter to us in what order you go, but we would ask that
you speak—you're doing a good job speaking clearly into the microphone, and limit your
testimony to three minutes, please.
RHOADES, L.: Hello all.
HEAUKULANL And, please please state your name and where you're from right as you
begin.
RHOADES, L.: Thank you for hearing us. I am Lou Rhoades and live in Hilo on Manono
Street, and we, Manono Street was residential when we bought our property, and it has stayed
residential with one exception. It was on the map that was shown, and we testified at that
hearing. Actually, we testified at the County Council, and in spite of our objection, they went
ahead and changed the zoning, and the reason for the change they said was there was a pressing
need for additional office space in Hilo. And, as they said in the presentation, that zoning was
changed in 2005, and that house has not had any additional—has not had anything but residential
tenants in it since that. It's changed hands but it's still just residential tenants. They haven't
had—there hasn't appeared to be any need for that change in zoning because there hasn't been
anybody in that house across the street from us that has, had anything other than residential
tenants.
I'm kind of getting off my script here, and I'm gonna back to it and read through it because
otherwise I'll leave out things and forget things I meant to say. But, that's basically the point.
I feel that the issue is really trust. When you buy in a neighborhood and it's zoned residential,
you should be able to trust that it's going to stay residential unless there's a really compelling
need to change the zoning, and in this case, as I just said, there really isn't a compelling need
because they haven't been able to use that property for that purpose—either the people who
originally asked for the zoning change or the second owner that has it now—they haven't found
a tenant that's a commercial or any other kind other than a residential tenant in that building.
So, my, my opinion, the important reason for zoning is that you can trust when you buy into a
residential neighborhood, it will stay residential, unless there's a real compelling need for a
change. If the zoning is changed without a compelling reason, the zoning doesn't mean
anything. The zoning in the house across as you know has changed several years ago—okay, I
already went over that part of it.
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In my opinion, to change the zoning in any other lots in that neighborhood would be a mistake
because the one that was already changed and the reason for it has already been negated, and to
change the nature of the neighborhood without a compelling reason is just wrong, and to go—the
house that was changed, they stipulated that they had to maintain the character and the
appearance of the original house, which I think was a good thing, that they at least did that.
Well, if they put in office buildings then that's gonna change the nature of the neighborhood
further and it's kind of doubly wrong. I think it was wrong to make the change on the last house,
and I think it would be even a bigger mistake to make this change on this house on these three
lots.
If the zoning is just changed whenever anybody wants to, it kind of means that people can't trust
that their zoning means anything. It becomes meaningless. It's just changed because somebody
feels like they want to change it.
In my opinion, Manono Street is an excellent location for residential. We looked, 20 years ago
we bought there, and we looked at several different properties, and this is centrally located in the
middle of everything, and it's accessible to everything and fairly close distance, and it's just an
excellent neighborhood for residents, and to change it doesn'tI don't like the idea of changing
it. I think it's wrong to change it, and I think you're kind of cutting off your nose to spite your
face if you do because, I mean, for so many different reasons. There's the fact that having
residential areas in the center of things cuts down on commuting. It cuts down on time and so
it's more efficient. So, it's good for the environment, less gas usage. We've got a housing crisis
to where there's a lot of homelessness and itcutting down the number of residential lots
available is, you know, making it harder, you know, increasing the problems of homelessness.
It's, you know, environmentally, economically, there are a whole bunch of different reasons that
just doesn't make sense to me to change zoning in this area. And, so I object to it, and I would
like to see that not done. I don't see any really compelling reason to do it.
I think that wraps up what I had to say.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, sir. Ma'am?
RHOADES, G.: Hi, good morning.
HEAUKULANL Good morning.
RHOADES, G.: My name is Gail Rhoades, spouse to Lou Rhoades. I live at 1045 Manono
Street, which is one property over from where the office buildings are proposed, and I'm just
amazed that you would even consider putting three more office buildings in that neighborhood.
On East Kawili, just north or east of the brewery, there's a brand new office building that was
built two years ago, and it has not had a single occupant. It's all boarded up. It's an eyesore.
And, as you know, driving around town, there are many buildings that are empty waiting for
occupancy. I believe there is no need for three additional office buildings especially on Manono.
The traffic is bad enough now.
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I understand that Manono's an artery for commuting, but have you ever been out there at 6 or
6:30 in the morning. There are children out there. There are kids trying to get to school. Many
college individuals throughout the day walking back and forth to school. Three office buildings
would increase the traffic tremendously, and I believe it would just increase the risk for persons
walking or riding their bike on that street. You just spent a lot of money revamping that portion
of Manono to put in bike lanes and sidewalks, and to add three office buildings, and the
additional traffic, would put everyone at risk.
When we bought there, we bought with the idea that hopefully, we would be able to retire there
because it's centrally located. I believe three office buildings that have the potential, great
potential, for sitting empty will decrease our property value.
The other issue I want to bring up is that there are many, many people in H.P.Hawaiian
Paradise Park and Leilani Estates and Pahoa that would give anything to live in town. Dwellings
for residential are few and far between in Hilo, Downtown, and they're not necessarily
reasonably priced. I would prefer to see homes built on those lots. Two homes per lot. That
would give six additional homes for people to relocate to centrally Hilo and closer to their jobs.
As you know, the traffic is horrendous going to Pahoa and also in the morning coming to Hilo.
There are many, many workers who travel that route, and they are besides themselves. They
would love to live in Hilo.
So, please, do not approve three additional office buildings that I don't believe at all are needed.
Thank you.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, Ma'am. Sir?
MCCOY: Hi. My name is Buel McCoy. I own the property at 1046 Manono Street, these folks
neighbor directly across the street, the property that's zoned C-10 [sic]. I bought it at about three
years ago. At that time, I bought it from, I believe, he's a mortgage broker that as I understood
had a mortgage office in there. I could be wrong. That's the way it was presented to me.
I'm here to support the measure and the request on the part of Mr. Ishii. I've been on the Big
Island for 46 years. I came here as a 19 year old kid. I'm 66 now. I've owned my own business
for many years here. I've paid rent on commercial buildingsa fortune of rent over the years. I
was a Goodyear dealer on the Big Island for 16 years. Finally, I have an opportunity to have a
fee simple piece of property that's zoned commercial. I admit I haven't done anything with it.
In the last three years, my plans changed. I previously had a bookstore which was going to go in
there, and we sold the bookstore we had in Hilo and Kona. So, I haven't proceeded with that,
but I really believe it's important that there is opportunities for people to own and develop
commercial property in a reasonable price range as that is available on Manono or through
rezoning. Otherwise, you have people that come to Hawaii or people that live here, and it's the
same situation. You run across the same people that control almost all of the commercial
property. I think it's wonderful that there is opportunities where small businessmen can buy into
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an area which the County seems to be growing into commercial. Allow a guy to buy that and
turn it into a reasonable commercial property and be able to prosper in this community.
I am sorry that in some cases it may displease people that have lived there and, but I'm sorry,
and that's growth in any community. Anyway, I really appreciate you folks considering the
matter, and I wholeheartedly support Mr. Ishii's request.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, sir. Commissioners, anyone have questions for these good folks?
Hearing none, thank you. Is there anyone else who wants to be heard on this matter on our
agenda? Seeing none, Commissioners, I would accept a motion to close public testimony.
MOSES: I move to close public testimony.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, Commissioner Moses. A second?
IKEDA: I'll second it.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, Commissioner Ikeda. Motion to close public testimony. All in
favor signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONERS: Aye.
HEAUKULANL Any opposition? None. Motion to close public testimony carries.
Commissioners, is there a motion for action on this agenda item?
IKEDA: Mr. Chairman, I'll make the motion.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, Commissioner Ikeda.
IKEDA: I move that a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the County Council on
application for Change of Zone, Docket No. REZ 16-204, based on the Planning Director's
recommendation, findings, and proposed conditions which shall be adopted.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, sir. Do we have a second?
MOSES: Second.
HEAUKULANL Thank you, Commissioner Moses. Motion by Commissioner Ikeda; second by
Commissioner Moses. Christian, if you could roll call the vote, please?
KAY: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioner Ikeda?
IKEDA? Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Moses?
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MOSES: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Henkel?
HENKEL: No.
KAY: Commissioner Miyasato?
MIYASATO: No.
KAY: And Chair Heaukulani.
HEAUKULANL Aye.
KAY: Okay, we've got three aye votes and two no votes. Motion fails.
HEAUKULANL Commissioners, we would consider other motions on this agenda item if you
are so inclined. Hearing none, you will be notified of the Commission's decision in writing.
Thank you.
The discussion ended at 9:47 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sarah Y. Hata-Finley, Secretary
Windward Planning Commission
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