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KAILUA VILLAGE DESIGN COMMISSION
MINUTES
MEETING DATE: August 28, 2007
TIME: 5:02 p.m.
PLACE: The Mayor’s Office Conference Room, Suite 103
Hanama Place Office Building in Kailua Village
ROLL CALL
1. Members Present: Theresa Andreae, Fanny Collins Au Hoy, Cynthia Hope
and David Ross, Jr.
2. Absent and Excused: Stephen Herbert and Sally Marone
3. Applicants: Jeffrey Foster
4. Staff Present: Bennett Mark, Rosalind Newlon and Noriko Sauer
5. Public: None
The Vice Chair welcomed those in attendance, and the Commissioners introduced themselves.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Design review of a proposed fabric canopy to accommodate an existing outdoor dining
area for Outback Steakhouse Restaurant. Applicant: Bill Daniel of Outback Steakhouse.
Land owner: LRG Real Estate and PFP Anekona LP. TMK: 7-5-009:025. Located at
75-5809 Alii Drive, Kailua-Kona, Hawaii, at the Coconut Grove Marketplace.
Staff Presentation
Ms. Newlon oriented the Commissioners of the subject and surrounding properties on a
location map, and described the proposed canopy over the existing outside dining area.
She said that the height of the canopy is 10 feet 8 inches with a slope to the outer edge at
7 feet 6 inches from the ground, that the design appears to meet the architectural design
guidelines of the Master Plan for Kailua-Kona, and that the color selected, a forest green,
is similar to a green shade of the Benjamin Moore Historic color palate recommended
within the Kailua Village Special District. She added that the canopy is made of vinyl-
type material, which is not necessarily in line with the Master Plan, however, it offers
more durability than fabric does for the purpose.
She said that the property is zoned Resort V-.75, and is covered by Special Management
Area Use Permit No. 277 approved for the entire Coconut Grove Marketplace project in
December 1998. She also mentioned that further research is needed during the Plan
Approval process to determine what TMK parcels the Coconut Grove Marketplace
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consists of, because there is a discrepancy in the parking calculations between the two
Plan Approvals issued previously.
Applicant Presentation
Jeffrey Foster, the proprietor and an equity partner of the Outback Steakhouse restaurant,
also representing Bill Daniel, the applicant, introduced himself. He said Ms. Newlon’s
presentation was comprehensive, and added that the reason why they are moving forward
with canopy is because even though the existing umbrellas cover a large part of the lanai,
they lose 32 seats when it rains, which puts on a financial burden on them.
Public Testimony
There was no one from the public wishing to testify on this agenda item.
Commission Discussion
Commissioner Andreae asked where the rain would end up with the canopy. Ms. Newlon
said there is a slight arch to the canopy, and according to the plan sheets the scalloped
edge of the canopy goes outside of the posts, so rainwater should drop outside of the
dining area. Mr. Foster confirmed that the canopy extends for 2.5 feet outside of the
lanai railing, so the water will run to the bushes. Ms. Newlon clarified for Commissioner
Andreae that there is only foliage and no sidewalk in that particular area.
In response to Commissioner Andreae’s question about the white umbrellas shown on the
rendering, Ms. Newlon said that there are three umbrellas in the outdoor area and they
couldn’t eliminate them from the picture, but all will be removed when the canopy is
installed. Mr. Foster clarified that they are burgundy-color umbrellas, but they whited
them out to create the image rendering.
Commissioner Hope queried Mr. Foster about the color quality of the rendering, and he
confirmed that the colors are off; the color of the canopy should be dark green instead of
blue as shown, and the actual roof color is greener than the photo. Commissioner Hope
asked him whether they have considered the turquoise color in the catalogue, if they are
trying to match the roof color. He said he confirmed with Mr. Daniel, when Ms. Newlon
informed him their plan sheet indicated the color to be blue, that the proposed color is the
dark green. Commissioner Hope said the turquoise would be her choice, and expressed
her approval of the canopy design.
In response to Commissioner Ross’ observation that in words they are trying to match the
roof, but in practice they are matching the landscaping, Mr. Foster stated that when Mr.
Daniel couldn’t match the roof with any colors in the catalogue, he tried to select a best
looking color for the area. He added that he thinks the turquoise looks great, but it may
be a little too bright when laid there. In response to Commissioner Hope’s question
whether they ever considered the burgundy, Mr. Foster said they are going to try
something different from the existing burgundy umbrellas.
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In response to Commissioner Ross’ inquiry, Mr. Mark stated that the recommended
Benjamin Moore Historic color palate is just a sample, and that the Commission has
rejected applicants’ colors in the past because they seemed inappropriate for the area.
He added that in this case if the proposed dark green looks too bold, the Commission can
request a more muted color.
Commissioner Au Hoy expressed her concern about runoff from the awning and possible
puddles and muddiness on the lawn caused by it, adding that she wasn’t sure whether or
not a French drain would be appropriate. Mr. Foster said he thinks the drainage will be
better with the awning because the current situation is that the runoff from the umbrellas
gathers in the center gutters and shoots on the lawn like a waterfall. In response to
Commissioner Ross’ question, Mr. Foster said that they have never experienced ponding.
Commissioner Andreae suggested that drainage gutters can be put onto the ground if the
problem arises, to which Mr. Foster agreed.
Commissioner Ross commented that since the roof color can’t be matched with any of
the available colors, they could move away into something different, such as the color in
the landscaping, instead of choosing an almost-matching color. Commissioner Andreae
said that if it is their preference to match the roof to create some continuity, she would
encourage them to look further to do so. Mr. Foster responded that they would have a
better chance matching the building color than the roof color. Commissioner Hope
commented that a gray color matching the building will make their landscape pop, while
a big blotch of green will compete with it. In response to Commissioner Andreae’s
question whether a burgundy to complement their logo is an option, Mr. Foster said he
doesn’t see the right burgundy in the color samples.
Commissioner Ross confirmed the Commissioners’ consensus that the color should
match a building element, such as the roof or the walls, as opposed to the landscaping.
In supporting Mr. Foster’s idea to match the building, Commissioner Au Hoy suggested
he select a gray color that would blend better with the building. Mr. Foster mentioned
that neither Mr. Daniel nor he has a problem with getting the color changed, and selected
#502-8390 (Gray) from the canopy catalogue to match the walls. Commissioner Andreae
recommended him to select another color to match the roof as an alternative, and he
selected #502-8611 (Blue-Green) and #502-8552 (Turquoise) being the closest to the roof
color. His selection was agreeable to the Commissioners.
Action
It was moved by Commissioner Andreae and seconded by Commissioner Hope to
recommend to the Planning Director the approval of the proposed canopy, with the
following recommendation:
The canopy shall be either (1) “Precontraint” #502-8390 (Gray) to match the walls of
the building, or (2) “Precontraint” #502-8611 (Blue-Green) or #502-8552 (Turquoise)
to match the roof.
A roll call vote was taken and motion carried with three ayes (Andreae, Hope and
Au Hoy).
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ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
1. Minutes of the Meeting of July 24, 2007 – It was moved by Commissioner Hope and
seconded by Commissioner Au Hoy that the minutes be approved as circulated. The
motion was unanimously carried by a voice vote of all Commissioners in attendance.
ANNOUNCEMENT
Mr. Mark announced that the Planning Department did not receive any applications for
Commission review as of the due date, therefore, the meeting scheduled for September 11, 2007,
has been cancelled.
Commissioner Au Hoy asked for the status of commissioner recruitment, and Mr. Mark reported
that nothing new has come to his attention, but he is still trying various avenues, and will check
the status with the Corporation Counsel who is handling this matter. Commissioner Andreae
suggested the matter be put on the agenda for the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, at 5:47 p.m., it was moved by Commissioner Hope and
seconded by Commissioner Au Hoy that the meeting be adjourned. Motion was unanimously
carried by a voice vote of all Commissioners in attendance.
Respectfully submitted,
Noriko Sauer, Secretary
A T T E S T:
David M. Ross, Jr., Vice Chair
Kailua Village Design Commission
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