HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-11-17 Regular Session Minutes HAWAII COUNTY BOARD OF ETHICS
MINUTES—REGULAR SESSION
Tuesday, July 11, 2017
10:02 a.m. to 10:50 a.m.
Hawai`i County Building
25 Aupuni Street
County Council Chambers
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Members and Staff Present:
Ku Kahakalau, Chair
Kenneth Goodenow, Vice-Chair
Douglass Adams, Member
Rick Robinson, Member
Sharon Bintliff, Member
J Yoshimoto, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Renee Lawrence for Emily Hirayama, Secretary
1. CALL TO ORDER
Ms. Kahakalau: Calling the meeting to order.
2. STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
Ms. Kahakalau: We're going to start with statements from the public on any of the
agenda items, but before we do that...I would like to introduce
myself and the members of the Ethics Board. Aloha. My name is
Dr. Ku Kahakalau and I'm the Chair...and then we can start with
our newest member...
Ms. Bintliff: Dr. Shay Bintliff from Kamuela.
Mr. Adams: Doug Adams from Hilo.
Mr. Robinson: Rick Robinson from Kona.
Ms. Kahakalau: And we're waiting for one more member that will join us...but we
will continue on our agenda...again do we have any statements
from the public on any of the agenda items? No...and it's only
us....there's no Kona or Kohala is not on...alright.
3. APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR SESSION MINUTES OF JUNE 13, 2017.
(10:03 a.m.)
1
Ms. Kahakalau: So we're gonna go to the next agenda item which is the approval
of the regular session minutes of June 13, 2017. Do I hear a
motion?
Mr. Adams: I would move approval of the regular session minutes of June 13,
2017.
Mr. Robinson: I second that.
Ms. Kahakalau: Do we have any discussion in regards to those minutes? Okay then
I call for the question...all in favor of approving the minutes for
the regular session of Tuesday, June 13, 2017 say aye...any
opposed...so that motion is carried.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Adams moved to approve the minutes. Mr. Robinson seconded the
motion. All members voted aye.
4. NEW BUSINESS (10:05 a.m.)
Ms. Kahakalau: We're moving on to new business which is a review of gift
disclosure statements received from the following County officers
or employees.
a. Review of Gift Disclosure Statement received from the following County
officer or employee.
(1) Aaron S. Y. Chung
(2) Karen Eoff
(3) Dru Mamo Kanuha
(4) Eileen O'Hara
Ms. Kahakalau: So maybe what we'll do is we'll just pass them down and then you
two exchange and we exchange...and then we'll do another
switch...that works for everybody.
Mr. Robinson: Is there a...
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay if it says zero then we just initial on the top.
Mr. Robinson: Do you have a sticker that goes on that shows signatures...
Ms. Kahakalau: That one doesn't have one?
Mr. Robinson: Yeah this doesn't have one.
Ms. Kahakalau: Maybe do it...so one of them doesn't have...so...
2
Ms. Lawrence: Okay. You can just write it...its okay.
Ms. Kahakalau: So we'll wait until we get the other ones. If I could check with
Counsel please...do we need to put anything into the record in
regards to the gift disclosure statements? Just that we received
them.
Mr. Yoshimoto: That's exactly Madame Chair and if you have any concerns with
can note it for the record if not we just accept the disclosure
statements.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay thank you. Alright so we don't need to do a motion...we're
just...
Mr. Yoshimoto: No...we do.
Ms. Kahakalau: We do.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Okay you should have a motion to file and accept.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay. Do I hear such a motion?
Mr. Robinson: Motion to file the gift disclosure statements.
Mr. Adams: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay we have a motion and a second...do we have any discussion
in regards to this item?
Mr. Adams: I would just make the following comments. These are being
provided to us under Section 2-91.5 of the County Code...and
quite appropriately... appreciated that and so...the fact that there
was...that there were gifts that were identified allowed me to go
back to Section 2-94.4 just to verify what we were talking about
which is...the identification that no officer or employee shall
solicit, accept or receive directly/indirectly any gift whether in the
form of monies, service, loan, travel, entertainment, hospitality,
thing of promise or any form under circumstances which it could
be reasonable inferred that the gift is intended to influence the
officer or employee in the performance of the officer or employee
official duties or is intended as a reward for any official action on
the officer or employees part...and given what we saw on
theses...I didn't...I felt that it didn't appear that any of those gifts
in fact violated that particular section.
3
Ms. Kahakalau: I agree with that. Thank you. Any further comments and I do also
want to say yeah I also very appreciative that the process seems to
be working at this point in time which is very exciting you know
when you have new legislation...it takes a little while for people to
get used to it but it seems like everybody got the memos and it's
moving forward so I'm appreciative of that as well.
Mr. Adams: Are we expecting to see the others?
Mr. Yoshimoto: Only if they have something to report. There's no affirmative duty
if they have nothing to report so because the deadline was June
30...my assumption at this point is that that's all there is for
now...for this reporting period.
Mr. Adams: Okay thank you.
Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you. Alright if there's no further discussion I call for the
question...all in favor say aye...any opposed...so that motion is
carried.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Robinson moved to file gift disclosure statements. Mr. Adams
seconded the motion. All members voted aye.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS (10:09 a.m.)
a. Petition No. 2016-20: Review draft order dismissing petition by Edward
Underwood alleging that Prosecutor Mitch Roth was in violation of Sections
2-83 (Fair Treatment) and 2-84 (Conflict of Interest) of the Hawaii County
Code of Ethics because he used his position to influence further private
interest regarding a contested case hearing.
Ms. Kahakalau: Our next item on the agenda is unfinished business...however I
would like to wait until Mr. Goodenow is here...if that's....
Mr. Adams: Actually I can't...somebody else has to...
Mr. Robinson: I just...so we're gonna wait until Mr. Goodenow' s here? Is that
the...
Mr. Yoshimoto: Madame Chair for the public's information. Mr. Goodenow
indicated that he had a hearing at 10:00 a.m. and he would be here
as soon as possible so my expectation is he'll be here around 10:30
a.m. is my hope anyway...so yeah if the board can wait for him to
arrive then we can address this item when he gets here. If that's
the board's pleasure.
4
Ms. Kahakalau: How is everybody feeling about that?
Mr. Robinson: Mr. Adams?
Mr. Adams: I'm recused on this particular petition.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay...alright...are you okay with that? Can you turn on your
microphone please...thank you.
Ms. Bintliff: I'm I okay with waiting or...
Ms. Kahakalau: Yes.
Ms. Bintliff: Yeah...oh yeah...that's fine...no problem...thank you.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay...so...
Mr. Robinson: Do you think you need a motion to...
Ms. Kahakalau: Yes.
Mr. Robinson: Okay I'd like to make a motion that we go ahead to
communication...that we take this unfinished business Petition
2016-20 at a later time to allow Mr. Goodenow to appear.
Ms. Kahakalau: Do we have second? Mr. Adams can't second because he's
recused.
Ms. Bintliff: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay thank you. Any discussion? All in favor say aye...any
opposed...so that motion is carried...we're gonna hold #5
unfinished business Petition No. 2016-20 until Mr. Goodenow
comes here.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Robinson moved to take up Petition No. 2016-20 when Mr.
Goodenow appears. Ms. Bintliff seconded the motion. Members Kahakalau, Robinson
and Bintliff voted aye. Member Adams is recused from voting.
6. COMMUNICATIONS (10:11 a.m.)
a. Chair Ku Kahakalau is requesting a review of Act 64 which was recently
passed.
5
Ms. Kahakalau: We move to #6 communications and basically what I had...been
made aware of is that our 2017 legislature passed a new bill in
regards to the Sunshine Law basically relating to public meetings
and I just wanted to see if we could get a review of Act 64 from
our counsel in particularly as it relates to us.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Okay. Thank you Madame Chair. So in terms of Act 64...in your
packet you have a bill which reflects changes that the legislature
passed and the Governor signed off on and the changes primarily
deal with administrative functions in terms of Boards and
Commissions. So the one that's most notable is that the board
packets that you receive as a board member will be available for
public inspection. There's an exception for anything that's
confidential...so it's just basically benefits the public that if they
wanted to inspect the packets that board members receive which
you do...then they would be entitled review those...and the other
matter is again deal with primarily administrative matters that our
office will be able to manage...I'd be happy to answer any
questions.
Ms. Kahakalau: Mr. Adams...
Mr. Adams: So when I was looking at this...I was....how will this affect when
we receive petitions as a board...typically Corporation Counsel
office receives those petitions...the...there are...those petitions are
made available to only the board...right...so not even the...if the
petition is a third-party petition about another party...until it's
been accepted by the board...that information needs to be made
available yet to that other party...right...so but now we're making
this available...now there's a requirement for us to make this
available to the public?
Mr. Yoshimoto: Right so there would be appropriate redactions to say like
information on the petition...the petitioner's name,
address...which we do already.
Mr. Adams: Okay.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Right. So confidentially we'd still be protected.
Mr. Adams: Okay...in all cases whether it's the petitioner or the...
Mr. Yoshimoto: Public.
Mr. Adams: The respondent or whatever.
6
Mr. Yoshimoto: The respondent yes.
Mr. Adams: Okay...thank you.
Ms. Kahakalau: And so we're still gonna continue to get the hard copies rather than
the electronic copies...is there gonna be a change in regards to
that?
Mr. Yoshimoto: We'll still keep our practice of hard copies...that's what I assume
the board members prefer...but we also can provide it
electronically if the board members want that as well...and another
thing to note of course is that it goes into effect on July 1,
2018...so we have some time to get started.
Ms. Kahakalau: Are there any other questions in regards to this bill?
Mr. Adams: So this really doesn't...this is not a huge impact on us?
Mr. Yoshimoto: No...not on the board functions...no.
Mr. Adams: Okay.
Mr. Robinson: Was anything in here not being done previously? It seems that all
of our...really I mean...was anything in that bill that was not being
done that we're gonna have to start doing now?
Mr. Yoshimoto: Well technically no because the board packet contains information
that's a public record so if someone did want to request that they
could. In fact I think we have had some request...this just
basically spells out you know that we have an obligation or duty
which I think you're right we did have it previously under the
Sunshine Law...that anything that's government document that's
not confidential is public.
Mr. Adams: I do notice in the discussion of the minutes 92-9 which I guess this
is Section 4 of the bill itself. It does talk about the minutes being
available within forty days....that's actually ten day more than what
was there...how does that...how does that...I mean there have
been times where we have not approved the minutes...you know in
that next meeting.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Right.
Mr. Adams: Were we in violation of the law?
7
Mr. Yoshimoto: Actually we're allowed to provide draft minutes...so we've had
request in the past where the minutes we not ready so we just
simply state that as a fact...but if the minutes are ready but the
board has not approved it...you know we're allowed to provide the
draft minutes with the understanding that the board has still yet to
approve them.
Mr. Adams: Thank you.
Ms. Kahakalau: At this point in time...I just thought that you know since it is a new
law that for us to be sure that if there is something we needed to
know...to know it earlier rather than later...and just get the
opinion of our counsel if there was anything that we needed to
change or if there were any adaptions to our current practices kind
of...so since this was a communication...we don't really need a
motion in regards to anything in regards to this agenda item and
then....
Mr. Adams: Just a hardy thank you to counsel.
Ms. Kahakalau: Yes thank you. And then we are going to go into executive
session...if we can get a motion for that please.
Mr. Adams: So doctor at some point this particular motion is going to have to
be taken over by another member of the board...so you may be
elected to do this but for the moment...it's a self-election by the
way...so I move that we move to executive session.
Mr. Robinson: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Any discussion?
Ms. Bintliff: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Do we have a second?
Mr. Robinson: Yeah so we'll let...
Ms. Kahakalau: We'll take that second...so if there's no discussion then I call for
the question...all in favor of going into executive session say
aye....any opposed...then we'll go into executive session.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Adams moved to go into executive session. Ms. Bintliff seconded
the motion. All members vote aye.
8
10:16 a.m. The Board went into recess.
10:17 a.m. The Board moved into executive session.
* * * * *
10:29 a.m. The Board returned into regular session.
Ms. Kahakalau: So we're official out of executive session and we wait for...
Mr. Adams: Madame Chair.
Ms. Kahakalau: Yes.
Mr. Adams: So we're in open but there is a question...we did have the
confidential financial disclosures to look at. Do we want to allow
the Vice-Chair to have a chance to look at those in executive
session? If he's going to look at them...
Mr. Goodenow: I'll abstain otherwise or I'll look at them...you're choice I guess.
Ms. Kahakalau: The financial disclosure forms
Mr. Robinson: Motion to go back into executive session so that Mr. Goodenow...
Mr. Adams: Second.
Mr. Goodenow: Thank you.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Robinson moved to go back into executive session. Mr. Adams
seconded the motion. All members vote aye.
10:30 a.m. The Board moved into executive session.
* * * * *
10:32 a.m. The Board returned into regular session.
7. VOTING ON EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTERS (10:33 a.m.)
a. Review of the executive session minutes of June 13, 2017.
Mr. Adams: Madame Chair I would move that the executive session minutes of
June 13, 2017 be approved as amended.
Mr. Robinson: Second.
9
Ms. Kahakalau: Any further discussion? All in favor say aye....so the executive
session minutes of June 13, 2017 have been approved.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Adams moved to approve the amended executive session minutes.
Mr. Robinson seconded the motion. All members voted aye.
a. Review of Confidential Financial Disclosure Forms filed pursuant to Section
2-91.1(d), Hawai`i County Code, by County board and commission members
and designated County employees, where personal matters will be reviewed.
Ms. Kahakalau: So we're back in regular session and we reviewed the confidential
financial disclosure forms. We approved #2 & #3 and sent #1 back
for additional information.
Mr. Adams: So Madame Chair I would move that as you just reported that
those forms be filed.
Mr. Goodenow: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Any discussion? All in favor say aye....any opposed...motion is
carried.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Adams moved to file the approved forms. Mr. Goodenow seconded
the motion. All members voted aye.
Ms. Kahakalau: Now can we please have a motion to go to our agenda item#5
unfinished business.
Mr. Goodenow: Madame Chair I move that we approve the draft order dismissing
the Petition No. 2016-20.
Ms. Kahakalau: Do we have a second?
Mr. Goodenow: Mr. Adams can't second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Yeah. Mr. Adams is recused in this matter.
Mr. Robinson: I'll second the motion.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay...any discussion?
Mr. Robinson: Yes. We had some discussion last time and I...I don't know if the
matters closed from last time...that this board cannot refer on
items for consideration by the State Ethics Board whenever we
find that a petition has been filed and it may have some validity at
the State Ethics Board...to consider the way the method with a
10
different formats in which this was submitted and I think our
discussion last time was that this board does not have the authority
to do that...correct?
Mr. Yoshimoto: Yes....board member Robinson...that is our office's opinion that
this board is empowered to interpret the Hawai`i County Code of
Ethics...so in terms of the State Ethics Commission and any
member of the public can file a petition or express a concern...so
basically because our powers enumerated in our Charter...our
recommendation is going to be based upon that.
Mr. Robinson: Okay. So consequently this board would not be able to say to the
State Ethics Board...we think this was filed incorrectly...this was
filed as to be some retaliatory event.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Well...in terms of what authority the board has...I mean the board
can basically again...can act upon powers granted to it by what's
in the Charter and as I mentioned before I don't see that provision
or that option you know to the board...available to the board...but
an argument could be made...that its still relevant and that's for
the board to decide...1 can only make recommendations to the
board...but Mr. Goodenow wanted to...
Mr. Goodenow: I think Mr. Adams should...I mean...1 know this in general
terms...I mean if...I feel it would be appropriate if you wanted to
discuss this...but...its...I mean there's a difference between the
Board of Ethics actually filing a complaint right...versus maybe
just referring a matter...the Chair writing a letter saying...to
whomever it is...the State Campaign Spending Commission or
those State Ethics Commission or the Attorney General's office or
maybe even the Prosecutor....if to say that we are referring this
matter for your review...would that be prohibited...I mean that's a
little different...it's not like...I'm not sure...would that be
different.
Mr. Yoshimoto: It depends upon how you're writing that letter right because as an
example we've seen board members write say testimony to
legislators on behalf of a certain bill...they can write on their own
individual capacity so long as they're doing that but if they're
writing with the authority of the board then it has to be a board
sanctioned position...so what I'm saying is...I don't see anywhere
in the Charter where it allows the board to make that referral on the
State level because we're empowered to interpret the Hawai`i
County Code...on the other hand if any of the board members or
anyone in the public wants to file a petition or express a concern
with the State Commission...I mean they can do that as well.
11
Mr. Robinson: Okay. So I could as a board member file with the State Ethics and
say that I think this is incorrect....it's retaliatory in nature.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Right. In your personal capacity as a private citizen.
Mr. Goodenow: Would it be appropriate if the Chair...if we authorize the
Chair...to write a letter simply stating that while we do not have
authority or jurisdiction over this matter...we are...sending it...I
mean to me it's hard...I mean look if we had an ethics issue and
we uncovered...let's say related to campaign spending...I
mean...let's say there was a politician and there was all these
ethics complaints about his spending...we go through it and we
say...oh wait look this is his campaign account...I mean...don't
we...have a duty somewhat to pass that on and say hey campaign
spending commission...there's a problem here...we want you to
investigate...I guess we can't officially file a petition maybe
right...but we could...would it be going beyond our duty to just
ask that they investigate maybe the answers the same...I don't
know...
Ms. Kahakalau: That's what I'm hearing...right...I'm hearing that as a board...this
is not our Kuleana...it's not our responsibility to communicate in
this particular matter.
Mr. Goodenow: The issue I would have with that would be...at some point it might
be confidential...and we as individuals would be prohibited from
saying contacting the prosecutor...the campaign spending
commission and therefore it would only be appropriate for the
board to do something like that...that's my thinking...I...I don't
know if we want to get a written opinion...regarding exactly what
our powers would prohibit us you know enable or prohibited us
from doing.
Mr. Robinson: Just for me I feel it's patently wrong...patently wrong someone
from the State office says okay we're the State...you're the
County...we can file complaints against you...you have no...no
ability to respond other than just at the County Ethics Board...but
the County can say...cannot say to the State...we think this was
filed incorrectly or retaliatory in nature so...if I have to do this as
an individual...I'II just do it that way.
Mr. Yoshimoto: Right I mean...yeah so again I mean if the board...we have...if the
board feels otherwise...in terms of you know our interpretation of
the Charter than...we'd be more than happy to look at it...I just
don't see anywhere were it provides us with that authority...I
don't.
12
Mr. Robinson: Okay...I understand.
Ms. Kahakalau: And asking for a written opinion wouldn't change that
matter...and asking for a written opinion...you're stating that
verbally now...what on here can you say is to ask for an official
written opinion...chances are it would it be the same opinion.
Mr. Yoshimoto: It would be...I mean we can do that if that's what the board is
for...yeah...we can do that.
Mr. Robinson: I would like to see a written opinion...I just you know...so we're
clear about what our powers are but...
Mr. Yoshimoto: And then beyond today's discussion...what we would probably
need to do is just to amend our code or our charter to expand that
you know or...yeah there's other options but I can focus on what
we have now because that's all we can deal with so...
Mr. Robinson: Okay.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay so we have a motion...we have a second...we have had
some discussion...just for my personal clarification then...what
I'm hearing will happen is that there will be people who will be
voting against the motion and then asking you to do a written
opinion no or is it that we're putting that into the motion...I'm not
quite clear so if I could get some clarification.
Mr. Yoshimoto: I believe the motion on the floor is to approve the draft order
dismissing the petition.
Mr. Goodenow: I think what we probably should do is...and I don't know if it
should be in executive session or not but there's an agenda item on
the next meeting agenda to discuss the issue of our authority to
refer matters...
Ms. Kahakalau: So that would be a more generalized question...
Mr. Goodenow: It is I think somewhat in the context of this case but it is a general
question perhaps yes.
Ms. Kahakalau: Alright. Is there any further discussion in regards to agenda item 5
Petition No. 2016-20?
Mr. Goodenow: No.
Mr. Robinson: None from me Madame Chair.
13
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay then I'll call for the question and this board member is
recused...she had to take an emergency call but I...we have
quorum in terms of calling for the question. So I'll call for the
question...all in favor say aye...any opposed...no...so the motion
is carried.
Mr. Yoshimoto: So no for the record...member Adams has recused himself and Dr.
Bintliff also abstained from voting.
Ms. Kahakalau: Yes...and the reason she's abstaining is she's a brand new member
so she wasn't there for any of the discussion and didn't feel
comfortable rightful so to vote on something that she just didn't
have any background on.
Mr. Robinson: I understand.
Ms. Kahakalau: Alright so that motion is carried.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Goodenow moved to approve the draft order dismissing Petition
No. 2016-20. Mr. Robinson seconded the motion. Chair Kahakalau, members Goodenow
and Robinson voted aye. Members Adam and Bintliff recused themselves.
8. DISCUSSION REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO THE RULES OF PRACTICE
AND PROCEDURE OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS OF THE COUNTY OF
HAWAII
Ms. Kahakalau: And then our next item on the agenda is #8.
Mr. Adams: Madame Chair at our last meeting we talked about the item...this
particular item being...discussed in more detail at our August
meeting.
Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you Mr. Adams.
9. DISCUSSION REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS
MONTHLY MEETING SCHEDULE.
Ms. Kahakalau: That then brings us to our next agenda item 9.
Mr. Adams: So this would be a...discussion of our September meeting?
Ms. Kahakalau: I have to say I will be in the Marquesas in September
so...unfortunately not...or fortunately...not available.
Mr. Goodenow: I'm sorry when is the July...its on here?
14
Ms. Kahakalau: This is July.
Mr. Goodenow: So the next meeting.
Ms. Kahakalau: But I think we've already scheduled the August one...right that
one is...
Mr. Goodenow: August 7th.
Mr. Yoshimoto: August 7t1'.
Ms. Kahakalau: Yes.
Mr. Yoshimoto: We good?
Ms. Kahakalau: We're good? I think it was September 10'1' or something if I'm not
mistaken.
Mr. Yoshimoto: So September 12" ...is that clear?
Mr. Adam: Because the 13t1' is not available to us right?
Ms. Kahakalau: Are you....
Mr. Goodenow: Yes...campaign spending is on the 13th.
Mr. Adams: Okay.
Ms. Goodenow: So I would move that we suspend the rules to allow our meeting to
be held on Tuesday, September 12'i.
Mr. Robinson: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Any further discussion? Alright so we're scheduling that for
September 12t1' and again I'd like to already to be excused...I'm
leaving on the 9th and not coming back until the 30th of September.
Mr. Adams: We could do it earlier?
Ms. Kahakalau: If you wanted to do it the week before...on the 5th or the 6th...I'm
available.
Mr. Goodenow: I'm not available on the 5th but I'm available on the
6th...Wednesday.
15
Mr. Yoshimoto: So this room looks like it's not available on the 6th or the 7th so
only the 8th might be available....
Mr. Goodenow: I'm free on the 8°i.
Mr. Yoshimoto: We don't know what location we would have on the 8th but we
could...find a location if this room is not available...if everyone's
clear on September 8`1'. Wait I'm sorry I'm not available on the 8th.
Ms. Kahakalau: I would suggest we keep it to the 12`h. We have a quorum...if we
already have it on the calendars in general then...
Mr. Goodenow: And I think Mr. Adams it wouldn't be recusing yourself from the
general discussion about...I guess you would if we made a referral
but as far as whether we can or not...
Mr. Adams: That petition in my understanding that petition is closed with the
exception of the vote on the order itself..which I won't be voting
on but anything else that is gonna be talking about the board's
powers...I'm sure we'll have a conversation about the board's
powers.
Ms. Kahakalau: I agree...alright...okay...
Mr. Goodenow: I'll amend my motion....strike the whatever date it was and go
with the 8`h is where we're at.
Ms. Kahakalau: No the 12`h....September 12t.
Mr. Goodenow: September 12`h.
Ms. Kahakalau: Will be our next...we already have our August meeting
scheduled...just an FYI since our new member.
Mr. Goodenow: So the motion's the same as well.
Ms. Kahakalau: Member just came back...for the 8`h...so we have our August
meeting scheduled for August 8th and our September one is for
September 12`h.
Mr. Goodenow: August 7th
.
Ms. Bintliff: And that is what day of the week?
Ms. Kahakalau: That's a Tuesday.
16
Mr. Yoshimoto: August 7d' yeah.
Mr. Goodenow: August 7`11
.
Ms. Kahakalau: We're going with the 7`h....
Mr. Goodenow: August.
Ms. Kahakalau: August...sorry...yes.
Mr. Goodenow: September 12d'.
Ms. Kahakalau: It's a Monday?
Mr. Yoshimoto: Monday.
Ms. Bintliff: September's a Monday?
Mr. Adams: Yes...no.
Ms. Kahakalau: We changed it to Monday?
Mr. Adams: Last month.
Mr. Robinson: We're changing August?
Mr. Adams: No. August 7d' is already a Monday.
Ms. Kahakalau: And that's when it is.
Mr. Adams: So we have a motion on the...
Mr. Goodenow: We do.
Mr. Adams: Okay.
Ms. Bintliff: Point of information. I'm on the Hawai`i Medical Board and we
meet on the 2nd Thursday of every month.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay.
Mr. Adams: Okay.
Ms. Bintliff: That's the reason I have to double check the dates. Yes.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay.
17
Ms. Bintliff: Thank you.
Ms. Kahakalau: So we have our meeting scheduled for August 7°i...that was just an
announcement and then the motion that was made was for
September 12th and we're calling for the question. All in favor of
September 12th say aye.
Mr. Adams: Sorry one second...I'm sorry...
Ms. Lawrence: Nobody seconded the motion.
Mr. Adams: Second.
Ms. Kahakalau: Okay...Mr. Adams seconded...all in favor say aye...alright...so
the September one is on the 12`h.
Mr. Robinson: I thought we had that already.
Mr. Adams: No...we only had...
Ms. Kahakalau: We didn't make the official motion...okay.
Motion and Vote: Mr. Goodenow moved to suspend the rules and change the proposed
regular scheduled meeting date to September 12th. Mr. Adams seconded the motion. All
members voted aye.
10. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Ms. Kahakalau: The announcements are that the next monthly meeting is going to
be scheduled for September 12, 2017 at 10:00 at the Hawai`i
County Council Building but we will find out what the specific
location is going to be.
11. ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Kahakalau: I want to welcome you again and I want to thank you for
serving...we're really appreciative to have a full board again. It's
very difficult to function when you don't have a full board and it
just makes it very, very hard to move agenda items forward.
Ms. Kahakalau adjourned the meeting at 10:50 a.m.
Respectfully submitted:
Emily Hiray4a, Secretar
18