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PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION COMMISSION (PONC)
MINUTES-REGULAR SESSION
March 12, 2018
Hilo Council Chambers Hilo County Building
25 Aupuni Street Suite 1104 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
Present: Chairman Kekaulike Tomich
Vice Chair René Siracusa
Commissioner Timothy DeLozier
Commissioner Dr. Wayne Frank
Commissioner Rick Warshauer(arrived 10:15am)
Commissioner Cynthia Nazara
Commissioner Susan Fischer
Absent: Commissioner Kai’ena Bishaw II
Others Present: Commission Secretary Maxine Cutler
Deputy Corporation Counsel Amy Self
Property Manager, Finance Hamana Ventura
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Mr. Tomich called the meeting to order at 10:02 a.m.
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
T ONI W ITHINGTON
Ms. Withington: Testifies in support of Comm. 18-005, 006, 007, 008, 010, 011,
013, 015, and 016. She represents four of five major community organizations in
Kohala. They are Kamakani ‘O Kohala Ohana, Malama Nā Wahi Pana ‘O Kohala,
Malama Kohala Kahakai, and Maika’i Kamakani ‘O Kohala; all together they formed
a non-profit corporation called, Kohala Lihikai. Since PONC’s inception, these
organizations have been nominating properties to PONC. She presented to the
commission their brochure called, “Success,” and summarizes the key purchases to
preserve the homelands of Hawai‘i First King.
In her testimony, Ms. Withington updates the commission regarding a change to
the nomination of Hapu'u to Kapanaia Cultural Corridor, due to development. Two
parcels included in a previous nomination \[Comm. 17-005\] were eliminated from
the current suggestion form known as Comm. 18-011.
Ms. Withington continues to testify how the cultural and historical significance of
Comm. 18-015, Kaupalaoa and Comm. 18-016, Honoipu in the life of King
Kamehameha. She describes the relationship of these parcels to other key parcels
in their “Success” brochure.
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L AURA K AAKUA
Ms. Kaakua is with “Trust for Public Lands” and joining her is Mr. Keoni Fox. They
are in support of Comm. 18-004. She updates the commission regarding the BLNR-
did approve the state legacy land conservation of $2 million grant paid directly to
the Hawaiian island non-profit, “Ala Kahakai Trail Association.” Ms. Kaakua reports
regular contacts with the landowner; the landowner is still willing to sell and wish
that we (Trust for Public Lands) are successful in raising funds for the purchase.
Besides raising funds, Ms. Kaakua reports that outreach efforts within the Ka’u
community and working with Councilwoman, Maile David for a resolution in the
near future.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion: Ms. Siracusa motion to approve corrected minutes of January 8, 2018,
regular session. Seconded by Ms. Nazara; open discussion by Ms. Fischer and
Dr. Frank held regarding spelling and typo’s corrections to the minutes. Chair
Tomich called for a verbal vote; all members present voted aye, motion
carried to accept the minutes with corrections.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Motion: Mr. DeLozier move to accept and file Comm. 18-001 to 18-021.
Seconded by Dr. Frank; no discussion. Chair Tomich called for a verbal vote,
all members present voted aye, motion carries.
Chair Tomich informs commission two later communications: Comm. 18-022 from
Kafa and Comm. 18-023, Email from Dr. Richard Rimer. Ms. Siracusa discusses
clarification of priorities of last years: #1 and #6? Chair Tomich confirms that
Kafa’s withdrawal is for #6. These two communications require a motion to include
it on today’s agenda and another motion to accept.
Motion: Dr. Frank motions to accept and file Comm. 18-022 and 18-023.
Seconded by Mr. DeLozier; no discussion. Chair Tomich called for a verbal
vote, all members present voted aye, motion carries.
CHAIRPERSON’S REPORT
Chair Tomich: Nothing to report.
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE REPORT
Mr. Ventura: Updates the commission regarding the status of two acquisitions;
both in escrow. One of the acquisitions should be recorded by next Wednesday. The
other acquisition, we are working with the State of Hawai’i Legacy Land
Commission their due diligence for funds from the State. He reminds the
commission that since both parcels are under contract; the identities of the parcels
are not public information.
Mr. Warshauer: Asks for clarification regarding rumors in changing the financing
in funding this PONC program? In addition, he continues to express his concerns
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regarding the speed of acquisition and the possibility that the fund might be a
target of takeover or reduced thru legislature.
Mr. Ventura replies that historically, Mayor Kim has been looking into creative
ways to balance the county’s overall budget and at this point the program is still
operating under the current law, the fund is still 2%, any change to the charter
needs to be put on the ballot for voters. Mr. Ventura reports that since the
inception of the PONC Program in 2006, acquisitions now total 13. For 2018, we
will have another two parcels to the list during the first year of the Mayor’s term.
He continues to suggest creative ways to move around to other districts and look
at conservation easements, watersheds protection, and past submissions to
diversify the portfolio. There has been an increase of nominations to purchase
conservation easements. We are new to this concept. Mr. Ventura encourages the
commission to recommend to the county for conservation easement in their report.
Ms. Siracusa asks why acquisitions take so long. She further comments that
reducing the PONC Fund, the Mayor would have to introduce a bill, takes three
council readings, and presented to the voters. Ms. Siracusa says she has been
getting emails from the public regarding reduction of the PONC Fund. She invites
Ms. Self for comments.
Ms. Self reminds the commission that these issues are not on the agenda and
should be agendized. In reference to Ms. Siracusa concerns, Ms. Self reports she
has not heard of anything at this point in reducing the fund.
Mr. Warshauer asks Ms. Self, regarding repetitive applications and the enormous
amount of time it takes the staff and commission in reviewing and processing it. Is
there a way we can handle this more efficiently?
Ms. Self responds that this commission has duties and responsibility that are set by
code and encourages the commission to review it. With that said, this item can be
agendized for a future meeting. She informs the commission that nominations come
from the public and the commission cannot stop the public from submitting every
year. She explains that the process of acquisition comes from County Council via
resolution, and then the administration takes over. During this process, the
landowner might change their mind. We cannot force a landowner to sell.
Mr. DeLozier reminds the commission that they are getting way off the agenda and
should stick to the agenda items. He encourages the rest of the commission to read
the charter, codes, and the process for property acquisition. Mr. DeLozier
continues to emphasize the importance of resubmittals of nominated parcels. The
approach is that leveraging funds (matching funds) are key factors to show that
the parcels continually score high on the PONC Prioritize list.
OFFICE OF THE CORPORATION COUNSEL’S REPORT
Ms. Self has nothing to report.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
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NEW BUSINESS
1. Commissioners to discuss and form an Ad Hoc Committee or Committee(s):
Motion: Ms. Siracusa motion to form an Ad Hoc Site Visit Committee with
Ms. Nazara, Mr. Warshauer, and Chair Tomich. Seconded by Dr. Frank,
discussion ensued and Ms. Fischer volunteered to join the Ad Hoc Site Visit
Committee. Ms. Siracusa amended her motion to include Ms. Fischer,
Second by Dr. Frank; discussion ensued for choice of sites. Chair Tomich
reply is with choice of sites Chair Tomich calls for a verbal vote, all
members present voted aye, motion carries.
2. Commissioners to discuss the process of reporting:
Ms. Siracusa suggested creating a checklist for the Ad Hoc Site Visit Committee
to use while visiting the properties as a form of reporting. She points out to the
commission the handout version from Mr. Warshauer from last meeting.
Ms. Self councils the commission that it is up to the Ad Hoc Committee to devise
a vessel of reporting, whether it be an outline, written, or verbal. The contents
of that report can include what discoveries where uncovered during the site
visits, whether it be a fee simple or easement or even both. The information
provided to the commission can be further discussion or clarification of
information in the report can therefore be discussed in the third meeting as the
Sunshine Law permits.
Mr. DeLozier questions the value of such information included in the report. He
emphasis that evaluation of these nominations are based on facts, what was
presented to the commission in the documentation and what facts was
uncovered during the Ad Hoc committees site visit reports. As a commissioner,
Mr. DeLozier says, “Give me the facts…I don’t want to be persuaded…Keep it
simple…so that we can rank these applications equally. Give me the missing
facts, so that I am ranking these nominations with equal considerations.” He
continues to relay the importance that reports should not be based on opinions
or hypotheticals. Site visits are conducted in a manner to justify what was
submitted to the commission in their nomination packet. He continues to
comment that creating a list for the ad hoc committee is unwarranted, since the
commission already has the Criteria Sheets that this commission ranks from.
Mr. Warshauer suggested that the Ad Hoc committee reports verbally and in
writing.
Under the advisement of Ms. Self, a motion is needed to put the process of this
procedure into a motion for the Ad Hoc Committee.
Motion: Mr. DeLozier moved that for process for the Ad Hoc Site Committee
be site visits with limited conversations of committee members, during the
site visits with individual factual reporting from individual committee
member to the committee chairperson who will consolidates all
committee’s members individual report and gives it to Ms. Cutler, who will
redistribute it back to the committee for committee review and approval.
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When approved, the Final Ad Hoc Site Visit Report is then given back to Ms.
Cutler for distribution to the PONC Commission at the next meeting. Second
by Ms. Nazara, discussion ensued that there is one Chair of the Ad Hoc Site
Committee is responsible for all sites, workflow, and delegation. Ms. Self
advises the commission to let the chair of the committee decide how to
implement the process of the report within hers/his committee to fulfill
the scope of the work as set forth by this commission. Chair Tomich calls
for a verbal vote; all members present voted aye, motion carries.
3. Commissioners to discuss and select Sites to Visit.
Chair Tomich calls open discussion of submitted parcels for Ad Hoc Site Visits.
After a brief discussion the following nominations was selected by motion:
Motion: Chair Tomich would like to entertain a motion that the following
Communications be visited: Comm. 18-003, Haleohiu, North Kona; Comm.
18-009, Io Lani Kea Trust; Comm. 18-015, Kaupalaoa, North Kohala; Comm.
18-016, Honoipu, North Kohala; Comm. 18-017, Pohue Bay, Ka’u; and
Comm. 18-018, Wai’ele, Puna. Moved by Ms. Siracusa, Second by Mr.
Warshauer. Discussion ensued, and the following was dropped from motion
with an amendment from Ms. Siracusa to delete Comm. 18-009 and Comm.
18-017. Chair Tomich calls for a verbal vote; all members present voted
aye, motion carries.
4. Format PONC Invitation Letter by Siracusa
Ms. Siracusa presented to the commission that a template draft letter to the
different community associations inviting them to submit suggestions
(nominations) and stewardship grant applications. She informs the commission
that the drafted letter was reviewed by Ms. Cutler and Ms. Self; for outreach
purposes to areas of the island wide. Ms. Siracusa emphasis the point that this
request comes from the CDP Action Committee to the commission.
Ms. Cutler clarifies to the commission that Comm. 18-021 contains email string
of this request to the PONC Commission. She reminds the commission that a
motion is needed to further the process of open discussion of the drafted letter.
Motion: Ms. Siracusa motion to consider this draft template and when
someone seconds, we can start discussion. Chair Tomich calls for a Second?
Second by Ms. Fischer. Summary discussion held by the commission
defining the needs of the letter by making available to the entire island
and not any one specific district or association and content of the letter to
include the letter to include the following:
Mr. DeLozier to correct the language of the draft for clarity:
… 2% of Hawaii County of annual Real Property Tax revenues for land
purchases by the county… (deleted the specifics)
PONC is inviting nominations to be submitting of properties worthy
of preservation (delete under this program)
Please find a suggestion form and PONC 2018 showing submittal
deadlines attached
To learn more about the PONC Fund, please go to the county website
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With no further discussion, Ms. Siracusa amends her motion.
Amended Motion: Ms. Siracusa moved to approve the draft template letter
as amended by Mr. DeLozier. Second by Ms. Fischer; no discussion, Chair
Tomich calls for a verbal vote; all members present voted aye, motion
carries.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Ms. Fischer shares her gratitude to Mr. DeLozier for his many years of service
and the amount of knowledge and wisdom during his tenure.
Mr. Warshauer expresses his appreciation and gratitude to Mr. DeLozier for his
contribution for the many years of service.
Mr. DeLozier replies that his participation on this committee was eventful,
rewarding, and he is sad that his tenure is over. He will miss this commission
but was much honored to have served.
The next special meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 14, 2018 at 10:00
a.m. in West Hawai‘i Civic Center, Building G Conference Room, 74-5044 Ane
Keohokalole Highway, Kailua-Kona, Hawai‘i 96740.
Set agenda for Monday, May 14, 2018
1. Report from the Ad Hoc Committee for Site Visits
2. PONC Maintenance Fund.
3. Suggestion form to remove the option of “one” pertaining to fee or
easement.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting was adjourned at 1:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Maxine Cutler
Maxine Cutler
PONC Commission Secretary
Approved on May 14, 2018
Posted on May 16, 2018
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