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CHARTER COMMISSION
Public Hearing
Saturday, September 26, 2009
Kea`au Middle School Cafeteria
16 -565 Kea`au -Pahoa Road
Kea`au, Hawaii 96749
CALL TO ORDER:
CHR. HAITSUKA: Today is September 26, 2009, and the time is approximately 2:02 p.m.
We are here for a public hearing for the Hawaii County Charter Commission. We are at the
Kea`au Middle School Cafeteria.
ATTENDANCE:
Present: Mr. Ed Haitsuka, Chair
Ms. Daphne Honma, Commissioner
Ms. Jamae Kawauchi, Commissioner
Mr. Alapaki Nahale -a, Commissioner
Ms. Susie Osborne, Commissioner
Mr. Todd Shumway, Commissioner
Absent: Mr. David Fuertes, Vice Chair
Ms. Casey Jarman, Commissioner
Mr. Guy Kaulukukui, Commissioner
Mr. Joseph Kealoha, Commissioner
Mr. Scott Unger, Commissioner
Also Present: Ms. Karen Eoff, Secretary
Mr. Levi Hookano, Legal Specialist
Ms. Glynis Yamada, Council Services Supervisor
Mr. Alfred Robello, Special Assistant to Council Chairman
CHR. HAITSUKA: First up, we have Ms. Bett Bidleman
BETT BIDLEMAN
(At this time Bett Bidleman came forward to address members of the Charter Commission.)
CHR. HAITSUKA: Good afternoon, Ms. Bidleman, you may proceed.
MS. BIDLEMAN: Good afternoon, and thank you for having a hearing in Puna so people
can come and testify. My name is Bett Bidlemn, and I'm a member of Friends of Puna's
Future. I am on their board, and I am speaking on behalf of them. We are providing
informal testimony today, we will send you written testimony next week, and we will appear
again at your October 9, 2009 hearing in Hilo, to provide more details. To tell you a little bit
about Friends of Puna's Future, we organized to support Puna in strengthening its voice in
deciding its future, through public advocacy and through consensus gathering. The three
issues that I would like to bring up- - -I'll tell you what the issues are, and then just generally
give you a rationale why Friends of Puna's Future are interested in these. The first one
regards CA -9, and that's the proposal that you have to require proceedings that are open to
the public for public decision making, such as the County Council, or the Planning
Commission, or the Charter Commission, that they be posted, and also posted electronically.
We support that, and we hope that one comes through. What we are asking is that you add
live broadcasting of these meetings, and also having videos on demand. This issue was
already brought up by Margaret Wille, so we are just expressing our support for that.
The second issue that we are here to support is we are requesting that the Community
Development Plans, after enactment, become a part of the Charter. To further strengthen the
Community Development Plans (CDP) we request a clear directive on the authority, or role
of the action committees, in implementing the CDPs, similar to roles outlined regarding the
Planning Commission, the Police Commission, or other Commissions, to give them the same
footing.
The third issue that we are here to support has actually already been brought to you by
Debbie Hecht; that is how we heard about it. She is proposing that what the voters already
passed, that was basically overturned by our Council, was the creation of the 2% Land Fund,
where 2% of our property taxes were deposited each year. In Debbie's proposal, she talks
about attracting matching funds, using this money to attract matching funds to save island
land. We will provide you with greater detail of our support for that later, but basically we
are supporting a proposal that has already been brought before you.
On the first one, about the live broadcasting, Friends of Puna's Future would not even exist
without the internet. We couldn't do what we do, if we couldn't communicate with our
members that way, and if we couldn't lobby this way. I'm sure you are familiar with Puna's
roads. It is very difficult for people to move around in this area. The internet is a way to
keep some people off the roads, so we really support greater transparency and accountability
of government by electronically posting, so people are aware of meetings being held, and
taking it a step a further, and broadcasting them. I knew about these meetings, but I had not
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planned to attend until I watched an on- demand video - -I believe it was broadcast live initially
by a private individual - -of Margaret Wille's testimony. I believe she has testified more than
once, I'm not sure which one she testified at. Just hearing someone talk about issues, it just
made it a lot more important to participate in this, seeing what she was willing to do. It
really brought it to my attention and I think people really do respond to that. If private
individuals can do some of the broadcasting, but if government is involved, you are removing
some of the filters. If government is responsible for it, no matter who they have do it, you
know that the filters have been removed, and you are seeing it, not just a segment of it, like I
only saw one person's testimony, I did not see your proceedings. You are making it a much
more open process and you are allowing the people to decide what they think about a
decision - making that is going on. It is also a way to get rid of a lot of - - -I don't know if
corruption is the right word, but if people know it is being witnessed, not just by a handful of
people that show up in the room to observe it, but by anyone watching it on the internet; we
think it makes for greater accountability.
The second issue is about the CDP's --- Again we will provide details on what we would like
to see put in the Charter to strengthen CDP's. The Friends of Puna's Future was actually
founded because of the CDP process. Most of our founding members were involved in the
working groups and went to the steering committee meetings. Our concern was - -and we
were told this from the beginning by the Planning Department and by Mayor Kim - -that
unless the citizenry got involved, this could also end up sitting on a shelf as other planning
opportunities have ended up. So, we thought we were really invited by County government
to organize a citizens' group to watchdog the Puna Community Development Plan process,
and make sure that it was carried through to implementation. We have been very
discouraged that we were the first plan to be enacted, and yet over a year later, we still do not
have an Action Committee. One of the comments that was made was that we had not
provided enough people to apply. But that's not so, 36 people applied. I think that is a larger
number than anywhere else, and yet, we were told that they need to re -open the application
process. We feel that all the people who worked on the plan, all the citizens, were given
deadlines, and we need government to be equally responsible for adhering to those deadlines.
To wait over a year, and not have an action committee to begin the implementation stage, to
us, it is too long to wait. So, we will provide you with what we feel would help strengthen
the CDP process, by putting it in the Charter, next week.
Finally, on the 2% Land Fund, I'm going to read this to you, because this is really Debbie's.
Friends of Puna's Future supports adding a new section to the County Charter that sets aside
2% of property taxes solely for the purpose of acquiring island lands of high cultural,
historical, or recreational value, for conservation and public use. When the current Mayor
and County Council decided to take the 2% Land Fund money to balance the County budget,
a great disillusionment arose among Hawaii County's majority of voters who voted for the
creation of this fund. We support the Commission putting this issue again before the voters
on whether to make this fund a Constitutional mandate. We will provide more specific
details on all of these. Thank you very much.
CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any questions for Ms. Bidleman?
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MR. SHUMWAY: I have one quick question. Thank you for coming to talk today. In
regards to the CDP's, I'm still not really clear what you are proposing specifically, on how to
amend the Charter, to incorporate the CDP's, or what specific mechanism you guys are
proposing.
MS. BIDLEMAN: Well, very briefly before this meeting, I looked over the current Charter.
I think it is on Page 15, it looks like there is a place there, it looks like we could incorporate
that the CDP is part of the decision - making process. A big concern of ours is that right now,
you can pass the CDP, the Council will enact it, and the next Council can overrule it. They
can overrule it, or they can amend it into oblivion. So, what we would like to see is
something in the Charter that would prevent that from happening. Once it is law, it's law,
and there is a responsibility of government to continue on with the implementation stage.
Right now there is a Code, that I know they are using for the Action Committee. It is
Ordinance 08 -98. The greater detail that we will provide you with is what we can say that
coordinates with the Code, that should be in the Charter, that makes that something that is not
just arbitrary, that can be decided against by the next session of the Council, but a permanent
part of the decision - making process, and it brings the participation of ordinary citizens into
part of the decision - making. The exact wording, we will get to you this week.
MR. SHUMWAY: To the extent, that as you draft that, look at the Charter and find
something that helps us to integrate it, we appreciate that, so thank you.
MS. BIDLEMAN: We will do that.
CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any other comments? Thank you Ms. Bidleman. Next, we
have Joyce Folena.
JOYCE FOLENA
(At this time Joyce Folena came forward to address members of the Charter Commission.)
CHR. HAITSUKA: Good afternoon.
MS. FOLENA: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. I have a written statement from Barbara
Lively.
CHR. HAITSUKA: Is that something you want to submit?
MS. FOLENA: Yes, I would like to read it on the record, if I may, and then go into my own
statement. Thank you, sir. "To the members of the Charter Commission from Barbara
Lively, Rural Route 3, Box 1208, Pahoa, Hawaii 96778. Regarding, proposed amendments
to the County Charter, I am writing in strong support of Margaret Wille's proposed
amendment as follows: A Community Development Plan Action Committee shall be
appointed within one year of completion of any Community Development Plan to oversee
implementation of the Community Development Plan. After that date, no development
application by either a private or public party shall be considered unless and /or until
considered by a Community Development Action Committee. As a Steering Committee
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member of the Puna Community Development Plan, I know first hand how hard people
worked to put the Plan together and see it adopted as law. One of the most contentious topics
during the entire process was what would happen after its completion. Many Puna residents
were wary of the process because they had seen planning efforts come and go with no lasting
results. The mantra being, sure, we'll make a good plan with all these people and all this
effort, and then it will sit on the shelf somewhere with all of the other plans. Time and time
again, consultants, staff and facilitators assured everyone that this one would be different,
that this one would be law, and that this one would be realized. Here we are a little over a
year later, and we haven't even gotten an implementation action committee seated yet. Are
the naysayers being proven right? How could we have gotten this far and not been prepared
for all the necessary next steps? It is sad to see that we are losing momentum in this effort,
because people are once again losing confidence in the process. Implementing a deadline as
this amendment would do, would clarify this part of the process, and inform members of the
public and all participants of the process of what to expect and when. The pressures of
development and growth are continual. Degradation of the environment and our natural
resources are constant. The Puna Community Development Plan must be implemented
IMMEDIATELY so that we can guide the growth and protective measures can be
implemented."
I think you understand what Barbara Lively is saying and what I am saying too, because I
augment and I absolutely confirm Barbara Lively's statement. I was involved with the Puna
Development Plan for over 10 years. People having meetings at people's houses, people
talking it over, what's good, what's not, let's put this in, let's take this out, what are we
focused on, what is our main objective, etc. To have this plan languishing for over a year in
the Mayor's office, without a committee picked, while the Mayor threw out most of the
applicants, is really a slap in the community's face. So, we would like that slap to be turned
into a caress. We would like a steering committee, and we would like the changes to the
County Charter to absolutely demand and mandate that we have a steering committee within
one year of completion of all Community Development Plans within the County of Hawaii.
Thank you. I will go briefly into some more topics. These are my own words, those were
my own words, and these are my own words.
We feel the more transparency in government, the better. in order for the informed public to
keep advised of any changes to policy or County law intended, or put into place, as soon as
possible. Therefore, we are in favor of all proceedings of policy- making boards, including
the County Council, be made available on- demand, within 48 hours, of each board's meeting,
on the internet. So, I'm echoing Margaret Wille here. These measures would also serve to
attract more people to become involved in their own governmental proceedings that affect
their lives and their futures. In a democratic society such as ours, it is imperative for as many
people as possible to be involved in the democratic process for a healthy democratic society
to flourish and survive. So, in order to dispel apathy and why should we be involve, we
don't know what's going on, what is this. If people can turn on the internet and within 48
hours and be advised as to what has happened 48 hours ago, it will spark their interest and we
will have more participation in government. The more participation we have, the better our
government is. If we are apathetic, we could lose our democratic process through a slippery
slope. We want to avoid that. Again, the Puna Community Development Plan, I can't stress
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that heavily enough; please change the Charter so that it is absolutely a law. We have to
have that Action Committee within one year after completion of every single Community
Development Plan in our county.
There is an item here concerning the Prosecuting Attorney's Office. This item concerns
willful violations of the Sunshine Law, which are criminal in nature. The Sunshine Laws
don't have any penalties attached to them per -se, except with willful violations. Then the
violations cross over from civil to criminal. So, we are talking here about the Prosecuting
Attorney's office, which handles criminal proceedings. We would like to make the first
Deputy, the Prosecuting Attorney, responsible for enforcing the Sunshine Laws in
accordance with the Director of the Office of Information Practices. The current court case
with Judge Ibarra shows that a lot of people are very concerned about these violations to the
Sunshine Laws. If council members treat the Sunshine Laws in a cavalier manner, why do
we have Sunshine Laws? We think these cavalier treatments on the parts of some of the
council members need to be rectified. So if there are penalties in place, and if the
Prosecuting Attorney's Office has a stronger mandate to prosecute, we feel this would be an
ongoing deterrent for future cavalier treatment of the Sunshine Laws by certain council
members.
We also feel very strongly about having a separate Corporation Counsel representation for
County civil matters, as compared to matters of the County Council. When you start mixing
the Administration level and the Legislative level you run into a lot of legal hassles. In our
Country, at the Federal level, the Presidency and the Legislative branch are two different
entities; this distinction is honored. So, in our County, I think we should keep that honored
distinction in tact.
Margaret was talking about err on the side of environmental protection, the Precautionary
Principal, when decisions are made concerning our natural resources. I can't stress that
heavily enough because this is the only planet we have. We are not interstellar species, we
are not interplanetary species - -not yet - -so, if we foul up our planet, we have no where else to
go. We have to protect our home. Being on an island, for heaven's sake, we really have to
protect our environment. It's double, double, double important. Thank you. I think that's
about it. I thank you for your time and I thank you for your interest in our concersn.
CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any questions for Ms. Folena? Mr. Gregory Smith. Good
afternoon, Mr. Smith.
GREGORY SMITH
(At this time Gregory Smith came forward to address members of the Charter Commission.)
MR. SMITH: Good afternoon sir, thank you for allowing us to speak here. I am in support
of Margaret Wille'e articles. I will try to keep this very brief. I am pretty much echoing
what Joyce has said, and what Margaret Wille has submitted to you folks. Just to touch on it,
I personally am really very angry about this CDP process. This process in Puna, I know has
been going on for more than a decade. It's been going on for the better part of two decades.
We have been slammed up against the wall of what I feel is a Hilo cabal; a political machine
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that keeps sucking resources and money right into Hilo. I can't emphasize this more. We
have to get these community plans up. If not, you can look at Kona, you can go to Honolulu,
and you can go to the mainland, and see how rampant development kills a community. Go to
California, go to Honolulu, go to the west side of the island; it is starting there. We have to
reign in growth. We have to get plans in place, and it has to be community based, not the
special interest of big money, particularly the big money that has been ruling this county for
50 years.
The reason I say this is because I started my life here in the islands 28 years ago as a
fisherman out of Pohiki. We were dragging our boats across roads here in lower Puna makai
that had potholes that were breaking axles. We were hauling in - -this is in the early 90's --
something like 8 -12 million dollars a year from 30 fishermen down in Pohiki with 30 boats.
Our County government was totally unresponsive to us at the time. We went up there at the
time and said, fix the roads. We had to make an extra five mile trip around the Pohiki Road
to the Kapoho Road, instead of going straight out. That cost us money and time. The point
is, the reason we are going through this fantastic CDP process is because we still have a big
money conglomerate in Hilo that is Hilo- centric, and keeps sucking resources into the town.
Literally, we were going through potholes, dragging tons of fish, and breaking axles on our
trailers and our trucks over potholes. Then we would get into Hilo, and all of a sudden the
roads were just smooth. They had sidewalks, they don't have tank traps. That is what I am
saying. Also, anything that helps us get clarity and openness in government, is what we
need; we need that here. The powers that be have been blood - sucking the rest of the island
for 50 years, based in Hilo, and of course in Honolulu, they don't want that, well we want it.
The only way that we can keep resources being fairly distributed to the island is if we have
participatory government and a populace that is engaged in their community; not this 19th
century plantation, or 17th century Monarchy thing either from Japan or ancient Hawaii.
This is modern Hawaii, we deserve representational government.
I'm sorry, but I don't come from this type of culture. My family members are union
representatives. In fact, my grandfather actually helped the union organizers that came to
Hawaii in the late 30's and early 50's. The point of the matter is that I can't handle that type
of government; yes boss, yes, I'll just take what I can get because the boss says so. That is
all done with, plantation days are gone; we don't need that. It just means the wealthy get
wealthier and the poor get poorer. The main factor here is that what Margaret Wille has put
across is very good. It helps the people, and helps keep the people engaged. The biggest
problem I see here is that so many people say, what's the use, why should we be engaged,
because they run everything, they do what they like. Anyways, thank you very much.
CHR. HAITSUKA: Are there any questions for Mr. Smith? Thank you, Mr. Smith. Do we
have anybody else here to testify? We have no one else here to testify, we will close this
meeting at 2:35 p.m. Thank you.
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Respectfully Submitted,
Karen Eoff, Secretary
Approved:
Mr. Ed Haitsuka, Chair
Hawaii County Charter Commission