HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-07-05 Hearing Transcript - Charles & Kitura Andrus REZ 18-227WINDWARD PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAII
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
JULY 5, 2018
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of CHARLES AND KITURA ANDRUS
(REZ 18-000227) was called to order at 9:02 a.m. in the County of Hawaii Aupuni Center
Conference Room, 101 Pauahi Street, Hilo, Hawaii with Chairman Joseph Clarkson presiding.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Gilbert Aguinaldo, Joseph Clarkson, Donn Dela Cruz, Donald
Ikeda, Thomas Raffipiy, John Replogle.
ALSO PRESENT: Michael Yee (Planning Director), Malia Ho Hall (Deputy Corporation
Counsel for the Windward Planning Commission), Jeff Darrow (Planning Program Manager),
Maija Jackson (Planner), Christian Kay (Planner), Shancy Watanabe (Planner), and Sarah
Hata-Finley (Commission Secretary).
And 11 members from the public in attendance.
APPLICANTS: CHARLES AND KITURA ANDRUS (REZ 18-000227)
Application for a Change of Zone from an Agricultural -20 acres (A -20a) to an Agricultural -5
acres (A -5a) zoning district for approximately 11. 06 acres of land. The subject property is
located on the southeast side of Kihalani Homestead Road, about 0.90 miles from its intersection
with Hawaii Belt Road (Highway 19), Kihalani Homesteads, North Hilo, Hawaii, TMK: (3) 3-
5-004:023.
CLARKSON: And with that, we'll proceed to the first item on the agenda which is by
Applicants Charles and Kitura Andrus, Rezone 18-000227, and Maija Jackson will make the
presentation from Planning staff
JACKSON: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good morning, everybody. It's nice to see everybody here.
So, our first application of the day is a Change of Zone request by Charles and Kitura Andrus.
The subject property is located in the North Hilo District near the town of Laupahoehoe. You
can see Laupahoehoe Point here on the top area of the slide and then the subject property is
outlined in red. Hawaii Belt Road is located along the coast here and then the road that accesses
the property is called Kihalani Homestead Road.
The Applicants are requesting a Change of Zone from Agricultural — 20 acres to Agricultural — 5
acres in order to subdivide the 11 -acre property into two lots. Upon subdivision, the Applicants
would reside on one lot in a home that was constructed in 2018, and the remaining lot would be
conveyed to the Applicants' children.
This is the Applicants proposed subdivision map. You have Kihalani Homestead Road on the
top of the slide. The two properties would be located here. This is the house that was recently
constructed and then, let's see here, the lot line dividing the two lots would be located here.
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Access to the rear lot would be via a 30 -foot ride access pole from Kihalani Homestead Road to
this Lot 2713.
The County zoning for the property is currently Agricultural — 20 acres. You can see that in the
dark green color. Most all of the properties along Kihalani Homestead Road and the mauka
areas are zoned Ag -20 acre, and then closer towards the highway, you have a mix of Agricultural
— 5 acre lots, Single Family Residential — 15,000 square feet zoning, and then Residential -
Agricultural — 1 acre zoning.
The General Plan designation for the property is Important Agricultural Land which is shown in
the light green color, but you'll see also that it's fairly close to a Low Density Urban area which
is shown in the mustard color. Low Density Urban allows for higher density residential than
Important Ag Land. It's usually more urban in nature, though. That's usually where you see
your Single Family Residential lots rather than Agricultural lots.
And, the State Land Use District for the property is Agricultural, again, shown in the light green,
and then you can see the urban areas of Laupahoehoe and Papa`aloa in this area here in the pink.
This is an aerial view of the property. The property is outlined in blue. This is I believe Kihalani
Stream on the rear part of the property. There's also an old irrigation ditch that runs along the
eastern edge of the property which is why the lot line is kind of meandering. And, then Kihalani
Homestead Road is here. You can see there's a mix of farm dwellings and some farming as well.
It's a little hard to see, but these lots towards the east have orchards on them.
This is a view of the new farm dwelling that was just recently finished, and the driveway off of
the Homestead Road.
This is a view of the ag storage building. There's actually two of them on the property. One
here and one in the back, and then, this is the proposed driveway on that flagpole back to the
proposed rear lot.
This is a view of Kihalani Homestead Road looking east towards the ocean. It is a fairly narrow
road. It's about 11 feet wide, but at various points along the road, it does have some grass
shoulder and then a drainage ditch along the north side.
And, then this is a view of the road looking more mauka, and you can see the driveway for the
road to the new house, and then the proposed driveway is further up.
The Director is recommending a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the County Council
for this Change of Zone request, and we haven't received any additional information since
sending out your packets, so that concludes my presentation. I'd be happy to answer any
questions.
CLARKSON: Commissioners, any question for staff? I actually have a question. I noticed that
the vast majority of lots in that Ag -20 zoning area appear to be smaller than 20 acres.
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JACKSON: Yes.
CLARKSON: Can you explain how that came about?
JACKSON: Sure.
CLARKSON: Was there an up -zone from smaller lots?
JACKSON: No, so a lot of the lots in this area were created before the Zoning Code, so when
the Zoning Code was established, they just went in and said we want this whole area to be Ag -20
recognizing that a lot of the existing lots were less than Ag -20. So, you have a mix of two -acre
lots all the way to about 11 to 12 acres. There's about 8 to 10 other lots along this road that
could be rezoned and subdivided to 5 -acre lots.
CLARKSON: Thank you. If there are no further questions from the Commissioners
REPLOGLE: I have a question. So, the purpose of zoning this Ag -20 was to protect good Ag
land, and you just stated that there's other 20 -acre lots that could be subdivided into 5 -acre lots.
Was that the plan?
JACKSON: The Zoning Code was established many decades ago, so at that time, the plan may
have been
REPLOGLE: Oh, that's allowed
JACKSON: to keep that whole area in larger ag lot for farming, but the current plans that we
have don't have any guidance in them that says that further subdivision or rezoning of lots to
smaller lots in this area is prohibited. So, this is a reasonable land use pattern at this time for this
area.
REPLOGLE: Okay, thank you.
CLARKSON: Now, if there are no further questions, will the Applicant or their representative
please come forward?
KERN: Good morning. I'm Zendo Kern. I'm a planning consultant.
CLARKSON: Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this
matter before the Planning Commission today?
KERN: Yes.
CLARKSON: Please introduce yourself, where you reside, and who you're representing.
KERN: All right. Zendo Kern, planning consultant. I'm representing Mr. and Mrs. Andrus.
Mrs. Andrus is back there and her daughter, Sara, is right there. I used to reside in Kapoho,
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currently reside in Hilo, since you asked. Yeah, so I'm happy to answer any questions. I can
address a few things. First, I'd like to say, you know, good morning Mr. Chairman and members
of the Planning Commission. Thank you for all that you're doing, Mr. Director, Corporation
Counsel, and all the awesome staff in the Planning Department. Good morning.
I guess I'll just get right into it. On the surface this is, you know, to me it's relatively
straightforward. It's a two -lot subdivision. It's in an area that as you kind of started to address is
interesting because you have this overlay of this Ag -20 zoning, but the surrounding properties
are basically comprised of two acre, five acre, ten acre parcels. So, when we looked at it, when I
was looking at it, I said this actually, you know, fits the mix of the surrounding property or the
properties. Further, that keeping it in a, you know, five acre size still allows agriculture. Still
allows a good amount of agriculture. So, it still keeps with the intent of the zoning, the size and
what not, and it will allow, you know, the Applicants to reside in one, and then they'll be able to
for estate planning purposes, you know, convey one of the lots to their daughter, Sara, who will
be building a home on the other lot to raise those children. So, it has County water available, and
the road is County owned and maintained. So, it basically hits all the basic, you know, criteria.
I did speak to two neighbors. One of the neighbors as you see in your packet wrote a letter of
support. They are basically directly across the street from the Andrus's, and there is another
neighbor that I spoke to, and she asked a few questions and talked about like the drainage and
what not, and said, you know, she was worried about drainage into the ditch, and I said that I
would talk to the Applicants about that. There's obviously nothing going on now that poses an
issue, but as they do agriculture and continue to live on the land that they would be, you know,
very cognizant and very aware of that.
With that, I'm happy to answer any questions.
CLARKSON: Did you receive the Planning Director's Background Report and
Recommendation? I mean, do you have any disagreement with any of the conditions?
KERN: No. We have received the Background Report and Recommendation, and we agree to
the Recommendation as well as the conditions.
CLARKSON: Any questions from the Commission? With that—
KERN: I'll go sit down.
CLARKSON: Thank you.
KERN: Thank you. Isnobody has signed to testify. I just want to make sure that there are no
potential testifiers on this issue. If not, I'll
KOZINSKIY (from audience): I have question. Can I
KOZINSKIY: I'm one of the neighbors.
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CLARKSON: Please raise your right hand.
KOZINSKIY: Sorry.
CLARKSON: Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Commission
today?
KOZINSKIY: Yes, I do.
CLARKSON: Okay, please introduce yourself and where you reside and who you're
representing if anyone other than yourself.
KOZINSKIY: I am Oksana Kozinskiy. I'm one of the neighbors, reside on 35-167 Papa`aloa
Avenue, and my question is will this automatically rezone my property as well?
CLARKSON: I'm pretty sure I can answer that question that it won't, but I will defer to staff
JACKSON: That is correct. If you wanted to rezone your property, you would need to come in
and submit an application, and it would go through the same process that the Andrus's are going
through now.
KOZINSKIY: Okay, that answers my question. Thank you. But, I am in favor.
CLARKSON: Thank you. There being no further public testimony
IKEDA: I move to close public testimony.
DELA CRUZ: Second.
CLARKSON: It's been moved and seconded that public testimony be closed. All those in
favor?
COMMISSIONERS: Aye.
CLARKSON: Opposed? Public testimony is closed. Any discussion within the Commission on
this issue or further questions from staff, for staff? If not, I'd like to hear a motion for action on
this matter.
RAFFIPIY: Mr. Chairman, I'll make the motion. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion. I
move that a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the County Council on the application
for Change of Zone Docket No. REZ 18-000227 based on the Planning Director's
recommendations, findings, and proposed condition which shall be adopted.
CLARKSON: Is there a second?
IKEDA: Second.
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CLARKSON: It's been moved by Commissioner Raffipiy and seconded by Commissioner Ikeda
that a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the County Council. Staff, would you please
poll the Commission?
JACKSON: Commissioner Raffipiy?
RAFFIPIY: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Ikeda?
IKEDA: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Aguinaldo?
AGUINALDO: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Dela Cruz?
DELA CRUZ: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Replogle?
REPLOGLE: Aye.
JACKSON: And, Chair Clarkson?
CLARKSON: Aye.
JACKSON: Okay, the motion carries six, zero.
CLARKSON: You will be notified in writing of today's action.
The discussion ended at 9:17 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sarah Y. Hata-Finley, Secretary
Windward Planning Commission
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