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KUBOTA: So as I was saying, on 11D there's a subdivision approval letter <br /> and a subdivision map. And the map shows that the lots were vacant at the time that <br /> recognitions were granted. <br /> HIATT: Okay. So let me go to then what we were at, Ookala Camp; and <br /> we'll go down to Paauilo Camp. Can you tell us what that shows? <br /> KUBOTA: Again, this is an aerial photo of Paauilo Camp, which is located <br /> <br /> just makai of Earl Store, if you know where that is. Earl Store is up here along the <br /> highway. The overpass is right about here, and then there's this one way that feeds down <br /> into Paauilo Camp; and there are 91 lots in Paauilo Camp. <br /> Also, for clarification, these lots out here, these vacant ones are on the Tax Map, but they <br /> were not requested by Hamakua Housing. So what they had requested at the time, I <br /> believe, were all, all of these, those lots as I'm indicating here. <br /> HIATT: Okay. And 13A, what does that show us? <br /> KUBOTA: 'T'hirteen A is over, an overlay of a photo of Nakalei Camp, which <br /> is located directly makai of Paauilo Camp. So if you just head down the road about <br /> maybe'/ of a mile, Nakalei Camp is right there. <br /> HIATT: Okay. And the circled area was a vacant lot for Nakalei? <br /> KUBOTA: Correct. <br /> HIATT: And Paauhau, 14A, what does that show us? <br /> KUBOTA: Paauhau Camp is the largest of all of the camps that Hamakua <br /> Housing requested recognition for. This camp, if you, I'm not sure if you all know where <br /> Paauhau is, but as you're driving from Hilo towards Honokaa, it's at that last turn just <br /> before the Honokaa sign. There's a road that goes down the hill. It's kind of a steep <br /> road; and Paauhau is about maybe a mile or maybe two miles down the hill. And there <br /> are 146 lots recognized in 1995. <br /> HIATT: And were there a mm~ber of vacant lots, was that the greatest <br /> number of vacant lots recognized? <br /> KUBOTA: Yes. In doing the research, we found that out of all of the camps, <br /> Paauhau had the most, the greatest number of vacant lots as shown by the subdivision, or <br /> the recognition application and by the Real Property Tax records. So we've prepared a <br /> Real Property Tax map which has, has been colored-coded to show the vacants and the <br /> commercials. So as you can see, you know, looks like roughly about half of the camp has <br /> been vacant at the time of the application and the approval. And these four pink colored <br /> lots are commercial-type buildings; and one is a garage building, I believe. And I've <br /> 15 <br /> <br />