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One of the things is that up until a few months ago there was a proliferation of no- trespassing signs on what was supposed to be roads that the public could use to access the shoreline. Some of those have been removed, others still remain; and just, it's very confusing how to get to the shoreline access. First thing is I'd like to suggest that somebody, whether it's the developer or the County, put a series of signs directing people down roads to parking areas, to trails, so they can get to the shoreline. I was with ten different people in three cars and we could not find the open, an opening from mauka-makai on the north side of Mill Road, other than the one next to the main gate. We were trying to find the other two, and we didn't find it that day. The other thing is, is that there's four scenic areas that arc really special. One of them is actually accessed down TMK, well, I'mjust, it's 3-2-8-7, Parcel 13; and it's whcrc the old radio tower was. And there has been a beaten path there for a long time because that's one place whcrc you can actually get to the shoreline down in the water; and that's one of the favorite fishing spots. And the second one is near the Chinese cemetery; and if, I think we do have the subdivision plan and I could point it out now. It doesn't appear to me that the public has a right to walk down the road that accesses the easement to the Chinese cemetery. I can't find that on this document or in any kind of casement document. And then there's also, well, I'd just point out whcrc 1 think public access should be assured, if I could on the map. GALDONES: Norman, could you give her a microphone? Thank you. ROHR: It's a complicated map. As you come down Mill Road, everybody knows that is, it's where the big cog is. You come down, and if you went all the way down here, you would hit the Hilo Coast Power Company. In the settlement agreement with the Board of Appeals, this railroad right-of--way was supposed to be open to public access. I'm not sure if it's in, 1 don't know if the easement exists or not for that. There's a parking lot right here and there's also a parking lot right here. This road right here should have an casement for public vehicular access. The reason why is that if you confuse the public enough, they're just going to feel like they're in the wrong place. It's hard enough to get around if you can't make, you know, the logically circular drive to get from one place to another. I was with a group of people who were hiking on the shore. And when we got to the end, it would have been nice to be able to pick up people, drop one car off, go over and get the car, bring people back to the original spot, things like that. But it's an obvious, since there's two parking areas and there's no way to get to this one, unless you go along this road, it's logical to go the whole way. The other thing is there's a break in the trail right here because of a gulch; and there's a really beautiful scenic spot on the other side of the gulch. And, so, it looks like there was supposed to be a public access along this road right here, but it says it's reserved for the Community Association. I think it should be for the public. It's confusing to me. But 9