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<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> With regard to the questions that you have posed to my colleagues, I have observed how during <br /> this process beginning with the State Land Use Commission hearings data collection, the quality <br /> of it, has improved. There were particular references that were tnade to particular articles in the <br /> Hawaiian language newspapers during t!re State Land Use Commission contested case hearing <br /> that appear now in the data before us in Appendix A. The question still remains as to the <br /> assessment, I'm sorry, the evaluation of that data and the assessment of the impacts to those <br /> cultural resources that are identified, and that burden does not tic with the informants. Thank <br /> you. <br /> <br /> DAVID: Thank you, Hannah. I :gave no more questions. <br /> BALOG; Planning DepartniLnt? <br /> <br /> O'TOOLE: Yes. When you state the burden does not lie with the informants, does <br /> that mean that you would not have any suggestions to the hearing officers regarding particularly <br /> the lava flow which you have been identified as an :mpottant source on? <br /> <br /> SPRINGER: Even my recommendation to the hearing officer and the County Planning <br /> Commission might be out of order without a proper evaluation of the resources and the impacts <br /> upon them. In the same way that 1 believe that the presumption that deve':opment may occur is <br /> out of order lacking that evaluation of the data collected of the cultural resources and any impacts <br /> upon them. So I believe that it's a matter of sequencing. The data must be collected, it has been. <br /> The data must be evaluated with regard to significance. The lava flow in particular does not <br /> benefit from that evaluation at this porn'. And it has been testified that it, the-e has been <br /> testimony that it will be in the fume. Until we know that I de not see how. I do not see any <br /> assessment of the impacts to it. <br /> Bat if you do look to my testimony I do have a number of su&gestions, and they are part of the <br /> record in my interview with Mr. Maly, and these occur on page 97 of Appendix A. And <br /> Mr. Maly and I have discussed this issue. If we look at my testimony or the summary of my <br /> interview compared to others there is not, there are not sufficient guidelines to guarantee that all <br /> ethnographers would proceed above and beyond the confines of the national bulletin, which <br /> number I forget right now but was in the <br /> <br /> KATAYAMA: Thirty eight <br /> <br /> BALOG' Thirty eight. <br /> <br /> SPRINGER: Thank you. Thirty eight. Not all interviewees will come up with the <br /> scope of recommendations such as I have. Therefore, lacking guidelines that's not just towards <br /> conformance with the statutes and the ordinances, 1 believe that the process is deficient. You'll <br /> see that I have nine recommendations. <br /> O'TOOLE: But you have recommendations. I see. <br />