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AO aVwq'ISUKAZAKI: Wawa kua. SPRINGER: Well, I could, Ben, if you recall from our examination of that eavircnmental impact statement, there stemmed much of our concern. 1 did not take notes when I was interviewed by one of the consultants for the applicant boy concernas represented before the Land Use Commission was that to particular with regard to salt gathering. I was a number of informants who were rolled into a composite informant and that then our practice of gathering salt was treated in a past tense form; and that was really the crux of my concera at that time, was back to the process. In this case, it was concern for data collection. I do know that is my testimony before the State Land Use Commission I did draw attention to the geological phenomena and activities that continue to influence our lives there. T%e consultant was unable to produce his transcripts of any discussion with us. I'm concerned that these things have become, ~o A~ftvo tars reference to the wawa kua, are so iatemalized. Always from ray youngest times my mother has told me stories of the Gods and they aze intertwined with the places of men. I'm sorry, I cannot remember specifically if I d`d or did not. TSUKAZAKI: Okay. And, also, you also gave public testimony initially at the LUC level, you know, prior to the testimony you gave on behalf of the Coalition. In that public testimony, did you recall informing the Land Use Commission that the lava flow was a place of the Gods? SPRINGER: I don't believe TSUKAZAKI: The wawa kua? SPRINGER: I don't believe that I did in that public testimony because my covicern was that with the particular practice of gatherirL salt that we had spent a fair amount of time discussing, and which was referenced in the document. I could not identify myself as an informant or as the practice of gathering salt being present tense. So, in particular, I was responding to what I had seen in the EIS, and my focus was on salt collection. TSUKAZAKI Thank you. SPRINGER: You're welcome. TSUKAZAKI I don't have any 11herquestions. BALOG: Thank you. Maay? KATAYAMA: Just one question. You talked about the salt collection, like the data says it was past tense. Are you say that it's currently being done? a Q v4k"o SPRTNGER Yes, it is. Our family last v, as at Kulaunano in August And we don't drive in. We walk along the seaward edge of the lava flow; and this is a practice thathas beer, recorded by, it has been recorded as being practiced by residents of the region including our