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<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> family members, and it does continue to day. <br /> <br /> KATAYANIA: In what zone is that salt, was, can we go back to the other, it has been a <br /> long day. Was it in Zone A? <br /> <br /> SPRINGER: That's correct, Zone A <br /> <br /> KATAYAMA: Not B-3? <br /> SPRINGER: No. However, what we have characterized and what we have experienced, <br /> .r• O~ U a( A whether coming from the Puuwaawaa side as we do sometimes from, Kiholo, or whetber coming <br /> from the south side of Ka'upulehu, when one crosses either lobe of the Ka'upulehu lava flow it is <br /> o profound zone of transition. Maybe it's just the difficulty of walking across that jumbled flow <br /> surface. But by virtue of entering onto that iumbled flow surface, we have to slow down, we <br /> have to become acute and astute in ways that are particular to that place that are characteristic of <br /> that geophysical phenomena. So while we go to gather at Subzone A, thejoumcy, the transition, <br /> avao A the process begins whether coming from Puuw88Wa or Ka'upulehu, when we enter onto the <br /> Ka'upulehu lava flow. <br /> <br /> BALOG: Probably two questions. When, what was your family's or your personal <br /> thoughts when Queen K Highway was built'? <br /> <br /> SPRINGER: Heartbreak. <br /> BALOG: Okay. Did you have, did your family at that time have any participation <br /> with the process when the highway was be ill° <br /> <br /> SPRINGER: l was a ealo (phonetic) youth and we did not At the time that the <br /> .i'n.wJ~Aw~ KaahuttlAn i Highway was being put into place, i did not reside on this island a. that time. I lived <br /> on Oahu although my father was residing here in Ka'upnlehu. I did not participate in that, we did <br /> not participate in that, Part of the heartbreak came front moviug laterally across a landscape that <br /> we were intimate and familiar with but at s.ich a rapid rate of speed in a way that had, was <br /> NJ 2 uncommon to its at the time. Our family, as I described, has lived at Hue ue, may sow you on <br /> one of the other maps where we lived? <br /> <br /> BALOG: I was getting to that, <br /> <br /> SPRINGER: This is our family's house site at Kukuiohiwai. When I was a youth, our <br /> family held the lease on the Ka'upulchu ahupuaa, and that is recorded in Appendix A of the <br /> IRMP. And being mountain people we would go into the uplands of our lease holdings as well <br /> as our fee simple holdings immediately adjacent, including the lands of Kaloko here. And we <br /> would come into the uplands both for gathering of foliage and with my mother in her fashion to, <br /> although she did not articulate this tome, but bring balance to our lives At the time w•c were <br /> n, J living on Oahu. And so when we would come home we would journey to places that I only <br /> anew then as places that mother loved to visi,t but, in part, through data that has been collected <br />