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i <br /> 3 <br /> Hawaii County Council-25 November 3,2015 <br /> I <br /> t <br /> i <br /> MS. WILLS: Really? I <br /> i <br /> MS. KAMAKA: Very hard to come by. <br /> MS. WILLS: Okay, the only thing, again, I want to just express my concern,that <br /> in terms of talking to people who have been through the workers' comp with one <br /> of the contract attorneys,has been very unsettling, and always feeling that there— <br /> this person, there's all these extra links out there, and very—that they don't really <br /> have full control. They have to check back here with the County, and then those <br /> people contacting the Mayor or others. So, I think it's just where you don't have <br /> someone that the people that are most affected who have just expressed concern <br /> here, including testifying before our Council,has made it much more difficult <br /> than not a sense of that there people that are a part of this,really within this <br /> system or constellation. So, I just want you to be aware of that. My concern—I <br /> mean we could farm out every—right now, we don't have a good tax person. <br /> Craig is gone. We don't have Kathy Garson. I'd love to—people have gone,but <br /> you know, I really think that hiring, where they're in and part of the County <br /> employee is preferable. I do hear you saying that you've tried and that it's not <br /> that easy. So, okay. I yield. <br /> CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Mr. Chung. <br /> MR. CHUNG: Thank you,Mr. Chairman. Charmain or Molly,if you guys can <br /> just explain to me, what's going to be the fee arrangement? I see $300,000 over <br /> two years, right? They said, estimated. <br /> MS. KAMAKA: Correct. <br /> MR. CHUNG: But— <br /> MS. <br /> utMS. KAMAKA: It's an hourly fee. <br /> MS. STEBBINS: If you do approve the contract, approve us hiring special <br /> counsel, and we enter into the contract, its public record. But at this point, and <br /> that's why I asked to go into executive session, or one of the reasons,is the <br /> pricing information in the law firm's proposal is not public record at this time. <br /> So,we can go into executive session and I can discuss the fees,but— <br /> MR. CHUNG: And I have no problem with going into the executive session for <br /> that purpose, but why wouldn't it be public if we were—you know, it's the <br /> public's money, right? <br /> MS. STEBBINS: I just said,if you authorize us to enter into this contract, and we <br /> do so, then the contract is public record at this point. We're seeking your <br /> Page 73 <br />