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i <br /> Hawaii County Council-25 November 3,2015 <br /> authorization to do so. Conceivably,you could say no, and then we're back to <br /> square one. <br /> MR. CHUNG: Okay. So—but it is on an hourly basis, though,whatever that <br /> thing may be? <br /> MS. KAMAKA: Correct <br /> MR. CHUNG: Okay. So it's possible that it could go over$300,000 for one <br /> year? <br /> MS. KAMAK.A: Very possible, depending on the number of claims that are <br /> referred. Depending on the complexity of the claims, absolutely. <br /> MR. CHUNG: So it's not really necessary that we go into executive session to <br /> find out what that hourly fee is, right? We just got to know in concept what we're <br /> looking at. You know, I share the concerns that Ms. Wille brought up,but at the <br /> same time, I agree with Charmaine. I think there is a need for this, and I'm going <br /> to be supporting it. But, it's with the understanding that you guys possibly will <br /> try to get—you stated,it's better to have someone in-house, right? Which <br /> specializes, but it's so difficult, because Nora had all those years of experience, <br /> retired, and then agreed to come on board. <br /> I mean ironically, you know,twenty-two years ago, I was the work comp attorney <br /> for the County, but doing it really part-time. It was really difficult. It's not an <br /> easy thing to do,learning on the job and then handling all these other departments <br /> as well. And then—so I can see the need for it, no question about it. But you <br /> know, I'm hoping that you guys will still keep an eye towards possibly getting <br /> someone who specializes within the department. But one thing that I have a <br /> concern about, you got three vacancies, right? One of which was for the work <br /> comp person. So now, we're going to be spending possibly$300,000 or more a <br /> year for work camp, and now we still got three open spots, when actually it <br /> should be only two. <br /> MS. STEBBINS: Correct. We're not seeking to fill the third vacancy. <br /> MR. CHUNG: Okay, alright, good. And my last thing really has nothing to do <br /> with this specific matter, but tangentially related to special council. And it—I <br /> guess.it could be tied into what Ms. Wille was talking about, you know, the <br /> accessibility, accountability of these special council people. Now, I don't know if <br /> we have any report, or reports regarding the people we retain as special counsel. I <br /> mean, are we given periodic reports on that? <br /> MS. STEBBINS: Are you given reports on— <br /> Page 74 <br />