2019-04-18 Leeward Exh B (AMEND SMA 07-020)

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LINGER: by, by that lineage. Okay, very good. MCMICHAEL: Yeah, so LINGER: Thank you for the clarification again. Sorry for the questions, but we are looking at this definition, and our job is to follow the definition. MCMICHAEL: Yeah, okay, and then, so, basically this is all, all I know is Hawaiian. And to make me separate, I'm a surf shop [owner], too, so that's part of, no one has had that; I'm the only female in the State that's owned a surf shop for 41 years, and that's my culture. I grew up in Waikiki with all my—one of my family is married to Duke Kahanamoku family, so that's all I know. And, my grandma? She's in this corner. She died at 99, and she had grandchildren, great-grandchildren; when she died, it was 71 of them. They made a lot of babies so that they could make money as laborers and send money to China. So, they married all those Hawaiians, and I have a whole closet full of paperwork and pictures, a closetful, and you can't find these pictures. So, I have more. LINGER: Great. MCMICHAEL: Okay. LINGER: Thank you. MCMICHAEL: Okay. LINGER: To the applicant then, this is your opportunity. Do you have any objections to the petition? Please state your name and area of residence. LIM: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Steven Lim from Carlsmith Ball, business address 121 Waianuenue Avenue in Hilo. With me to my left is Mr. Bill McCowatt who is the representative of Kilohana Makai LLC today at the hearing. LINGER: Thank you. LIM: We do have objections to the intervention request by Ms. McMichael as we submitted in our pleading earlier. We understand that she has now updated her information that she does claim the traditional customary practices as a native Hawaiian, and I just had some questions to ask her with respect to, you know,just exactly what those are. UNGER: Okay LIM: Ms. McMichael UNGER: go ahead. 7 EXHIBIT B