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LIM: —could you tell us, well, before, a procedural issue first, I mean, in your petition, you <br /> mentioned that you are the president of the West Hawaii Surfing Association? <br /> MCMICHAEL: Yes. <br /> LINGER: Ms. McMichael, could you please speak into the mic for the minutes? Thank you. <br /> MCMICHAEL: Yes. <br /> LIM: Are you claiming intervention for the West Hawaii Surfing Association or just yourself <br /> individually? <br /> MCMICHAEL: Both. <br /> LIM: Okay, do you have any resolution or any other authorization from the West Hawaii <br /> Surfing Association Board of Directors giving you authority to do that? <br /> MCMICHAEL: Yes. <br /> LIM: Okay, do you have that with you? <br /> MCMICHAEL: No. <br /> LIM: Okay. Can you submit that to the Commission? <br /> MCMICHAEL: Sure. <br /> LIM: Okay. So, you're coming in as a West Hawaii Surfing Association and as a Paula <br /> McMichael individually? <br /> MCMICHAEL: Yes. <br /> LIM: Okay. And, obviously, we would object to the West Hawaii Surfing Association for lack <br /> of proof of representation. But I'll go on with the traditional, cultural practices issue. What are <br /> the traditional and cultural practices you, yourself, practice at this property? <br /> MCMICHAEL: I surf and I pray to the iwi-s. <br /> LIM: Okay. You were mentioning during your initial presentation, you know, things about the <br /> owner being fined 45,000 dollars for seawall demolition and trying to build on the sand and all <br /> those things. Those are not this property, right? Those are another property. <br /> MCMICHAEL: This is one lot away. <br /> LIM: Okay, so it's, those are not related to this property. <br /> 8 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />