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MCMICHAEL: It's in the area. It fronts Holualoa Bay. <br /> LIM: Right, but it's not this property that those violations occurred on? <br /> MCMICHAEL: No. <br /> LIM: Okay. How long have you been practicing the traditional and customary practices that <br /> you mentioned at this property? <br /> MCMICHAEL: I would say in the 70's, 70's. <br /> LIM: How often? <br /> MCMICHAEL: I live right above of it, Holualoa. This is part of the ahupua`a. Yeah, often, <br /> every day. <br /> LIM: Every day? <br /> MCMICHAEL: Every day, I pray to Akua. <br /> LIM: Okay, from? Not necessarily this property. <br /> MCMICHAEL: This whole area. This is where I live, yes. <br /> LIM: Yeah, no, I'm just trying to get the location, area of where you practice such traditional <br /> and cultural practices. And please excuse my questions, I have to ask these as part of the record. <br /> MCMICHAEL: Where do I pray? <br /> LIM: Yes. <br /> MCMICHAEL: I pray every day as I go to bed and as I wake up, and if I'm in the water, I pray, <br /> and I also pray for surf. <br /> LIM: Okay. <br /> MCMICHAEL: And I pray aloud, and I sing out loud. Everybody knows that. And when I <br /> sing, the waves come. <br /> LIM: Okay, no further questions. <br /> LINGER: Thank you. Mr. Yee? Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the <br /> truth before the Planning Commission? <br /> YEE: I do. <br /> 9 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />