2019 05-14 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – May 14, 2019 my mind that – so one of the objectives was to change our – get rid of statutory limitations, um, I’m not saying that’s wrong – that’s just – that’s a lot easier said than done basically, so I don’t know if I would remove that or if I would word it differently but removing statutory limitations on what we are allowed to do as an agency or not is not just wave a wand and it happens. So there were a lot of things that were very similar to that that things that are really are out of our control as an agency – things that we cannot do – so I would look at revising those things. Sorry, like I said, I read that plan a couple of years ago, um, so I can’t go into details on it and I’m not ready to say what I want to change now. I would say, I mean, we’ll try – we should have a discussion internally about what kind of time frame we can have to get a draft back to you guys – maybe by the next – your next meeting we can have a time frame. I’m sorry, I’m committing myself – that’s not a good thing but maybe that is a good thing. TN: Pali you want to ask a question? BKK: Then go ahead and re-state your name for the record... PD: Palikapu Dedman. I’d like to say a little bit about our lawsuit that we had against DLNR and that was the Kau fencing in Kau. And they did a study and they were talking about fencing off about 14 miles and putting little ladders over the fence for the hunters – but then again it’s like shooting fish in one aquarium – you know, you hunt between the fence till you no more nothing left. That was the idea of how to use the hunter to be part of the eradication program – by giving them that kind of ideas – they came into the community DLNR and talk and hide LLC people cause they had to do an EA study about what the impacts gonna be in that forest and it was State land so it belonged to everybody – not just DLNR. So we took it all the way up the Supreme Court and by the time we took it to the Supreme Court it took about three years and in those 3 years – DLNR took a lot of our arguments and created bills that years to answer and plug all the pukas cause we had a lot of strong arguments about their neglect so they took our arguments and started correcting them at DLNR by passing bills to correct ‘em before we get to the end of the court case which was three years down the road. So they took a lot of our comments and fixed up their books real quick or changed lot of their policies cause it made a lot of sense. The eradication program they had in killing the rats – so they had that – what you call that – it’s a green type of poison – and they used that... PD: ....pellets. They used pellets to kill the rats but then the ‘io eats the rats – the owls eat the rats – so they were killing their own native birds that they had laws of protection – then the hunters would catch pigs – cut the opu open – and they would see the green pellets inside. So it’s called Emmett Green, I think, they use and there’s Emmett Brown – but the green was being used for the rats but that’s an agent that goes inactivate when you drink water – so the 21