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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – May 14, 2019 <br />pigs would run down to the where get water – the river – the creeks – <br />whatever – and they would drink that and activate it and a lot of them would <br />die so the contaminants are what going in the water from what DLNR was <br />creating. So anyhow – while that lawsuit was going on it was to protect the <br />alala birds so they was gonna make 14 miles of fence for one bird when your <br />bird needs cages not fences – but the idea was to get 10 million dollars to do <br />this project. We went after the DLNR – all the way up to the Supreme Court <br />and we lost at the Supreme Court – they said that they have a right to <br />regulate our rights as Hawaiians – the State – and our rights to these <br />protections of resources. But the idea was – we lost the lawsuit but that <br />project didn’t happen – so they lost the project because of our lawsuit they <br />moved that alala bird someplace else and I think the ‘io’s number one <br />predator is the alala bird from growing up time we know that – the cowboys <br />used to tell us a lot that they would see the ‘io \[unclear\] at all these black <br />ravens or crows because they were invasive looking to them – they eat the <br />other birds but they never eat the crow – so that was wiping out the crows <br />and the other wipe out was shooting ‘em – we’d get rid of them by shooting <br />‘em – because they was taking up the aina or taking up our place of hunting <br />and there was all signs over Hawaiians I mean over gathering rights – that’s <br />years ago. So I know that the process of DLNR going out and making rules <br />per se – if it’s rule making Chapter 31 or Chapter 13 rule making then that’s <br />not their making laws – they’re making policy – and when you make policy or <br />rules you gotta go out and do public hearings and the public hearings got to <br />give input before they go back and write up stuff – not they write ‘em and they <br />give ‘em to you and ask for your comments. The public gives comments then <br />they get all the comments back and then they do the draft. When there’s a <br />problem in the draft like we challenge – that’s when you get into the draft <br />stage – you’ve got 30 days to make this argument and the draft – then when <br />you don’t address your comments in the draft you get to put it – they’ll put it <br />into the final – then when it gets to the final of you not getting yours <br />addressed now you got 30 days to take ‘em to litigation – so that’s where we <br />took ‘em to court – all our lawsuits at Pele Defense Fund has been against <br />DLNR. It’s never really been against private people it’s the process of DLNR <br />and the permits that they give and it’s all about science and not about <br />subsistence. So you gotta be strong about saying I don’t care what you say – <br />we’re a government agency – we get paid by the taxpayer and I saw your <br />charter – the taxpayer put you in this position – not the Mayor, not the <br />Governor – so you got to stand up for those people that put you in this <br />position and challenge these people DLNR. I’m embarrassed that I pay these <br />guys my hard work tax dollar and they short change all the guys on this Island <br />because they get one comfortable job. That’s the name of the game. Comfort <br />– got a good job – really no care inside about where they live and the <br />resources – if they do they wouldn’t be doing this, if they really care... <br /> <br />TN: So Pali, if they’re taking orders from their boss – isn’t that who we should be <br />addressing? <br />22 <br /> <br /> <br />