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UNGER: Great, thank you. Commissioners, any questions of the applicant? <br /> CARR SMITH: I just had one. The off-the-road, the little, small parking area by the <br /> archaeological sites, is that provided as access to the archaeological sites? <br /> FUKE: Thank you very much for pointing it out. So, when the burial treatment plan was <br /> prepared, one of the things that was called for not only physical preservation but also buffer, and <br /> that stub-out, as you pointed out, was intended to provide access to lineal descendants. <br /> CARR SMITH: Very good. Thank you. <br /> CHURCH: What's going to happen to the existing Living Stones church, I mean, does that mean <br /> that all the services get moved over here? I know there's some significant traffic that's caused <br /> currently from that church. What's going to happen to it? <br /> COOK: Well, our current Living Stones church on Alii Drive, we were able to lease a parcel of <br /> land on the mauka side of the roadway there by Royal Poinciana from Kamehameha Schools. <br /> They own that parcel. And we were able to create a church parking lot. In 2007 we negotiated a <br /> five-year lease for that space, and then 2012 we were able to get annual extensions for the <br /> parking lot for the church. And then a couple of years ago, they now have us down to basically a <br /> month-to-month lease, and so we have been looking for a new permanent location for our Living <br /> Stones church. And these sites are centrally located, as Mr. Fuke said, and the intent now is to <br /> continue our Living Stones church where it is now. As far as evening services on Sunday nights <br /> and a lot of the programs that we have would be down at that location, whereas a new church and <br /> the parking lot basically we would be in an enclose building. And so the concern that people had <br /> about traffic and everything, we feel like we won't be there so much. Our church where Living <br /> Stones is right now, we have, we have residents just to the north of us and just across the street <br /> mauka of us. Our church at Pine Trees we have an enclosed church there. We have, next to us is <br /> a Subway, and we have church service and music going on and it doesn't conflict with things, so <br /> we felt like, you know, that that would not be a problem. <br /> UNGER: Can you clarify the original intent of that access road through Pualani Estates, was to <br /> access your property? The stub-out right there, it dead-ends right into your property. Was that <br /> the original intent of that stub-out? <br /> COOK: That was basically a proposed mid-level road that the County set years ago to mauka of <br /> the highway to have a mid-level road going along the full length. I developed a project called <br /> Malulani Gardens back in the 90's and that was right by where Lowe's is now, a 120-unit <br /> project, and when we developed it, it was a long narrow parcel and we had to allow for a 60-foot <br /> right-of-way for this future mid-level road back in those days, and so there is a 60-foot wide <br /> right-of-way going between our second and third phase through Malulani Gardens that will <br /> eventually go to Palani Road. And so, where we are at, there at Pualani Estates, is the same road <br /> and it would be going through the lot that my company owns, Lot 041, toward Hualalai Road <br /> and then through the Bolton property to Hualalai Road and eventually going further north. <br /> 7 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />