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Ms. Kierkiewicz: <br />Mr. Heintz: <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz: <br />Mr. Heintz: <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz: <br />Mr. Heintz: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Mr. Robinson: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Mr. Robinson: <br />or awareness of the Pi'ilani bottling company connections. None <br />of those things were disclosed. <br />Suisan was not the applicant for the bill that was before us. <br />But Matsuno Enterprises was... <br />Matsuno was the landowner. The applicant was Pi'ilani Partners <br />who was looking to develop the project. <br />Okay and then you are involved in discussions with all <br />those...involving those three parties. <br />We were involved in discussions regarding land use. <br />Thank you. <br />I have one more. At what point did the chair...the Council <br />chairperson inform you...discuss with you...that you...there was <br />no problem. <br />It was at a Council meeting after we as the planning committee had <br />met to discuss Bill 16. And at which point I shared my non- <br />interest in the application. <br />I see. So you didn't... <br />It was at a Council meeting. <br />So you did make a disclosure at that meeting? <br />I made a disclosure at a Council meeting...after the committee had <br />deliberated and provided a recommendation on the bill. <br />I see. Thank you. <br />Mr. Chairman, if I may? <br />Yes please. <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz, I'm just looking at this County Council Rule 11. <br />But you said that references disclosure. And then it says if you <br />have a disclosure and then you see there's a clear conflict of a <br />personal stand point then you recuse yourself. Correct? <br />Ms. Kierkiewicz: If there is substantial personal interest. Yes. <br />23 <br />