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rules and procedure. I believe we should be more flexible and <br />more broad in how we look at things. So I somewhat wonder <br />whether or not David's suggestion and other remarks are <br />persuasive. I just want to share that. <br />Mr. Goodenow: Thank you. <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: Mr. Chairman. <br />Mr. Goodenow: Yes? <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: As we continue with the discussion, are you going to be asking the <br />parties their positions, just so the record is clear. You gonna allow <br />the parties to... It's up to you. <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Sumer -Mack: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Well. That's a good thought but... Well let me... I think if they <br />wanted to ask for a continuance when we call the matter that would <br />appropriate. However the request was made by the one person and <br />my feeling is you know. I agree with you. What you've just said. <br />I think that very true. But just logistically, if you had someone on <br />a phone...we have 19 petitioners...and they'll be talking, <br />discussion, they'll have to interrupt if they want to ask a question. <br />I have logistical concerns. And keeping a good record that's <br />recorded because we transcribe everything. I mean if we had set <br />up a facility where someone could go through the Council <br />chambers technology. You know I'd feel more comfortable so... <br />At this point is there any other discussion? Okay so there is a <br />motion and a second. The motion is that we not allow phone in <br />testimony. All those in favor...please say aye. Any opposed? <br />The vote will be one opposed and four in favor. The next item is <br />statement from the public on agenda items. Thank you. <br />Excuse me. Could I just comment that my vote was predicating on <br />the idea that this would not be a general policy...forever and ever <br />but just on this one case...when it was asked for all at once. But <br />just to clarify cause I agree with Larry generally but... <br />Just to point an order on that and I wanna be flexible but under <br />Robert's Rules...this was a big deal with the Council...you're not <br />allowed to explain votes. Discussion only happens before the vote. <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: Alright. <br />Mr. Goodenow: Thank you. Alright. Sylvia Dolena. <br />Ms. Dolena: Yes. Aloha. <br />4 <br />