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from now. You know, and that's the value of a commission, right? That's the value of getting <br />all the heads on both sides of the island to come to compromise on this. So, I kind of tend, at this <br />part of the process, not to want to throw in a major way to swing one way or another. I rather get <br />all the ideas out on the table, and we'll go from there. <br />CLARKSON: Let me make—one of the things that might be helpful, I think, is some data, too. <br />I'm going to make work for your staff. Is, you know, how often is it that permits are applied for <br />and the project doesn't happen. How often is it that rezones are granted by ordinance by the <br />Council and nothing happens except the resale of the property? I mean, you know, what are we, <br />what are we looking at as the real problem here? <br />DARROW: That's actually not that difficult to be able to get an answer for. I mean, the way <br />that I would be able to find that information is just going back in our logs and look at how many <br />time extensions came before the Commission and/or the Council where an applicant originally <br />you'll see it on our permits because it will say applicant so and so formerly this applicant. So, <br />you know right off the bat that it's no longer the original applicant. It's changed. And, so that's <br />easy to find. <br />I can also be able to easily find how many time extensions have come before the Commission <br />and the Council let's say over the past ten years. That's pretty, a good number to use. It should <br />be easy. <br />The difficulty is like Commissioner Aguinaldo last hearing said how many rezonings are out <br />there sitting in limbo. Well, we have rezonings that go way back to, you know, sixties, and we <br />just haven't had the staff or the time to go back and look at every single one of those to see if <br />they're in limbo, if they've been completed, or if they are just dead. <br />CLARKSON: I don't even understand what that means. How can a rezone be in limbo? <br />DARROW: It happens all the time just like what we were saying. You have a piece of property <br />that came in, it was zoned, and they had conditions, but they didn't do the conditions, and so the <br />property just sat there until somebody in the future comes along and says I want to buy that and <br />they realize they have to go to the Planning Commission or the Council to reignite the <br />conditions. So, it's just been sitting in limbo ever since. You can't get a Building Permit. You <br />can't get a Plan Approval. You can't do anything on it until you go back to Commission and <br />Council. <br />CLARKSON: These were time conditions? <br />DARROW: Correct. <br />CLARKSON: Oh, okay, I'm sorry. <br />DARROW: Yeah, so that's where—and, you know, we've asked this Director as well as other <br />Directors. Do you want us to initiate revocation on these zonings? And, they say, no that <br />doesn't make sense because if we revert it back to its original, it's going against what is actually <br />EXHIBIT D <br />13 <br />