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Mr. Wiseman: Yeah, when it comes to the term, appearance of impropriety, which <br /> as you noted has been in my world for the last two, three <br /> decades... <br /> Mr. Roth: Right. <br /> Mr. Wiseman: On the bench. It's always necessary to...in looking at that...it's <br /> always that concept...it's always necessary to go to what we all <br /> had to experience in law school of learning about what was called <br /> the reasonable man standard. I'm just wondering after all these <br /> years if they changed the "man" into a gender. Is it now a <br /> reasonable person? But it was always the reasonable man. <br /> Mr. Roth: It's still the reasonable person...it's a reasonable person standard, <br /> but... <br /> Mr. Wiseman: Okay. But what would that reasonable person think about this? So <br /> and that's taking it right down to street level if you went out in the <br /> street and just asked anyone at random and gave em a nutshell of <br /> there's...my son works for this...it's all these levels <br /> removed...now we're prosecuting people that would be prosecuted <br /> anyway for the same thing...regardless of...notwithstanding any <br /> TMT or anything. If they came down here and blocked the <br /> intersection right here...I mean... <br /> Mr. Roth: I'm completely there with you. <br /> Mr. Wiseman: The rule of law says they must be moved. I've dealt with many <br /> road blockings and... <br /> Mr. Roth: You make some great points. And up until the article was <br /> written...even when they were writing the article...I told them <br /> there's no conflict. But the problem was the way the article was <br /> written, they only had a legal expert saying...conflict, you should <br /> recuse. And you know, unfortunately, we live in an age where <br /> press gets involved and creates reality. <br /> Mr. Wiseman: Oh yeah. They set the...yeah. Certain people are expert in setting <br /> the news agenda of the day. In any event...and most people will <br /> never read the story...just the headline. <br /> Mr. Roth: Right. <br /> 20 <br />