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VITOUSEK: preserving the sites
<br /> ALAPAL yeah, as a lineal descendant, I guess we have certain rights to make sure that the
<br /> developer, you know, does everything accordingly and kind of respect the culture of the lineal
<br /> descendants and its people, I guess, right?
<br /> VITOUSEK: Yeah.
<br /> ALAPAL That's why we're here, so.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Thank you.
<br /> ALAPAL You're welcome.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Question for Ms. McMichael. Does the, does the West Hawaii Surfing
<br /> Association's interest, are they affected by the project in regards to the use of public land and
<br /> waters in the area?
<br /> P. MCMICHAEL: Right now in the documents it says that the water of any flooding goes right
<br /> down on the property, it flows, and then it goes onto Alii Drive, onto Pahoehoe Park, and into
<br /> the Pacific Ocean. If they put up all these parking lots and, you know, where's the flood control?
<br /> Where's the pollution that they're going to do, you know. Any time you have versus pavement,
<br /> parking lot, cars, all the pollution comes from the vehicles. And I know for a fact when you have
<br /> these kind of places and you're going to have all these visitors, they don't like to see one bug.
<br /> They're going to spray, and they spray hectic. I don't spray. I go with my weed whacker, and I
<br /> weed whack. For every spray you do, you can go on your hands and weed whack, and I do that.
<br /> The land is so special. It's in the zoning of 500 feet below. Let me tell you about the waterways
<br /> is that they should encourage planting. As dry and dry as it looks, you plant something—taro,
<br /> potato, papaya trees, noni—once it is rooted, you do not have to water. I do not water my, I
<br /> haven't watered my plants for years. My daughter and I, we butcher everything down, cutting
<br /> down, cutting down because my husband is, he's not going to go do that. So, her and I, we do
<br /> that. And, it's every month, and with this rain, it's crazy. But, I'm saying it's the beauty of it,
<br /> because I have pikake trees, I have everything, and it just waters underneath below us. You
<br /> know, it's just
<br /> VITOUSEK: But, you mind if I ask the intent and purpose of the West Hawaii Surfing
<br /> Association?
<br /> P. MCMICHAEL: It's to protect our waters, save it for all the generations to come. It's all the
<br /> protection of our water, and it's also the safety now. It's all that concern, because it is scary.
<br /> And like, like Ms. Roy said, when the surf's up, those kids, they cut out of school. And when we
<br /> had those high surf warnings, let me tell you, all the parents were calling the shop, "Where's my
<br /> son? Is my son over there? Tell him to get home." And, I remember in the 80's that the police
<br /> was going down Alii Drive and with their microphones, "Get out the water! Get out the water!"
<br /> And, I would be at the shop, too. My dad would be calling me from Oahu. He goes, "What are
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