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CLARKSON: Excuse me, please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth <br />on this matter before the Commission today? <br />HARADA: Yes. <br />CLARKSON: Please proceed to receive a question. <br />AU: So, we have, like our Chair had mentioned, you know, we've approved applications in the <br />past, you know, to take out the full-blown curb and gutters in areas that are like this. How does <br />that affect your department, and when you guys make these decisions, do you guys take—when <br />you come out with these decisions for these applicants, do you take that into consideration? <br />Everybody else around the area? All the other properties that don't have full-blown curb and <br />gutters? <br />HARADA: Yeah, we do take that into consideration. I know we discussed this subject Change <br />of Zone application with others in our department, and yeah, basically, we're recommended to <br />tell the Planning Department that our requirement would be for curb, gutter, and sidewalks based <br />on this zoning. And, we did also mention about what you had mentioned, but that was what I <br />was advised. <br />AU: So, has Mr. Kern and you consulted about this? I'm sure you guys have met, right? <br />KERN: Yeah, we've talked about this. We talked with Planning staff, and I understand where <br />DPW is coming from. This is standard procedure for a CV zoning. You know what I mean? If <br />this was Waiakea Houselots, there's no conversation. The issue is that we're in Volcano Village, <br />and that's why there's a Commission; that's why there's a Council. To have a little bit latitude <br />and some flexibility in these ways to make sure that we are protecting, you know, public health <br />and safety, but also making it work for everybody. So, it's not necessarily that we're adversarial. <br />It'swe understand that they, it's hard for them to have that flexibility, too, right? That's where <br />it's up to you folks and the Council to have some of that flexibility. Correct me if I'm wrong. <br />AU: Okay, thank you. <br />AGUINALDO: I have one, Mr. Chair, for Bryce. As far as your curb and sidewalk, yeah, is <br />there enough shoulder for even for people to walk? The reason why I ask is that I have <br />properties in Mauna Loa Estates. I'm familiar with Volcano Village. It's kind of unique. It's, <br />you know, like artsy kind people. I mean it's just one unique place. I haven't seen through my <br />lifetime any curb and concrete sidewalk. If that was the case, then we should have implement <br />when Ace Hardware came in, right? <br />You know, if we really look at it, it's just going to change the dynamic of just in the Volcano <br />Village, and, you know, I see the positive thing of making one sidewalk for people, but is there <br />enough shoulder for people to walk and go to there, where they have, I'm assuming, Zen, you <br />have enough ample parking for whatever the design is, so why should people walk to there when, <br />you know? I mean, that's my only thing because I'm familiar with Volcano. It's kind of unique, <br />yeah? And, that's why I go back again, was there anything pertaining to a design committee <br />EXHIBIT B <br />9 <br />