2020-01-16 Leeward Exh B (REZ 19-237, SMA 19-073 & SMA 379)

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CARR SMITH: I guess, based on the CRC letter again, and then based on the County's response to that, it sounded like the archaeological data recovery plan has been done, or? RECHTMAN: So,the archaeological data recovery—is this [mic]working?—data recovery plan has not been completed yet. You can ask about it the others, or I can just . The archaeological inventory survey has been completed. The cultural impact assessment was completed. The plans for preservation, mitigation, and burial treatment, while that came up in the Cultural Resources Commission meeting, we had a subsequent meeting after that, that meeting with them, and we had meetings with the Planning Director about at what point in the process would these plans be completed. And we had a, I don't know if we call it an agreement, but we had an understanding that we would begin the consultation phases of the data recovery plan, the preservation plan, the burial treatment plan, but the plan themselves would not have to be completed or submitted until prior to, you know, final subdivision or ground altering activities. MOOERS: I think one of the things that always comes up is that it's very difficult to prepare specific plans until we have an agreement with the County that we are going to have five-acre lots, and then you are going to agree with this proposal that we have, you know. Once that's agreed to, then we can finalize those plans, and they have to be approved by not only the State Historic Preservation Division but also the Planning Department, and they'll do that in consultation with the CRC. So, it's really, very difficult for us to go beyond this point with the plans until we have an understanding that they are going to be six lots, and we are not going to build anything makai of the trail. I did want to bring up one thing and I forgot. You asked about the preservation of the trail. We are working with the Ala Kahakai people, and they are saying that this alignment of the trail would probably be the Ala Kahakai trail as [inaudible] here. The owner is completely committed to working with Na Ala Hele and Ala Kahakai to confirm the alignment and have that be the pedestrian access across the property. RECHTMAN: Sort of a case in point is when this was a nine-lot subdivision, the level of preservation versus data recovery was extremely different than it is for a six-lot subdivision. So, if I had a nine-lot subdivision, the requirement would have been, get your data recovery and preservation plans in place; when we morph it to do a six-lot, those will all change. So, for example, everything, this is the same, everything in green on this map was preservation at the nine-lot subdivision configuration, and then when we switched to a six-lot subdivision configuration, we were able to put in all these other yellow sites here are now in preservation, which would have otherwise been data recovery sites. So, once we get the approvals and we know where we are going and we know which roads, you know, driveways and everything else, then we know we can, you know, maximize the preservation sites that way. CARR SMITH: Thank you. 11 EXHIBIT B