2020-02-06 Exh C New Cingular dba AT&T Mobility USE 19-081

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process, Industrial zoning, but the other towers all have, have been granted permits, and you can see the, the distribution of them. CLARKSON: Are you aware of any other towers in addition to these? TOMLINSON: On the previous figure of the air photo with the search ring, there's another tower, it was an SBA tower that we looked at, but it was outside our search ring, so it wouldn't provide coverage. So, as you can see on here just from a coverage standpoint, there would not be a facility available that would give us, fill this coverage gap. And, to answer your question, in general, we do spend considerable time looking for co -locations because it's one, a lot faster, we don't have to go through a Use Permit application, and it is much more cost effective. So I will say like in Hawaii Island right now, AT&T has a number of projects we're working on. The majority of them are co -locations. We distinctly try to do that, follow that process. It's only when we have a coverage gap, like in this particular case, that we'll go to a raw land, what we would consider a raw -land solution. CLARKSON: Thank you. RAFFIPIY: Do we have any other, any other questions? Anybody have any from the Commission? All right, thank you, sir. We have 20 people signed up to testify. So, at this time we're gonna call Gene Tamashiro, Greg Kemppainen, Dwight Vicente AUDIENCE MEMBER: Greg's not here. RAFFIPIY: Dwight Vicente. AUDIENCE MEMBER: He's not here, too. RAFFIPIY: William Ellwood and Edelyn Ellwood. TAMASHIRO: We got three, yeah? Our Hawaiian Kingdom [inaudible] is going to sit there because he wants to RAFFIPIY: —Okay, Gene Tamashiro. TAMASHIRO: That's me [inaudible]. RAFFIPIY: Is a Greg Kemppainen here? AUDIENCE MEMBER: Greg's not here. RAFFIPIY: Oh, Greg's not here. Then, we'll have— TAMASHIRO: —Hello [testing microphone]. EXHIBIT C 4