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FUKE: Yeah, what I was going to say, what I was going to say is that now that, you know, they
<br /> had a lot of this so-called environmental cultural parameters firmly established, then the next
<br /> step was to kind of work with the potential developer in coming up with a design that's kind of
<br /> workable in that area. And the owner was working very closely at that point in time with the one
<br /> of the representatives of, called Aman Resort, to create this high-end single-family residential
<br /> project. And so it was really driven by that particular vision with the Aman representative to
<br /> come up with this notion of single-family residential lots, no more than 29, so on and so forth.
<br /> Then for some reason, I mean, perhaps I'm kind of like sharing information that I shouldn't be
<br /> sharing but, you know, in as much as the question came up, there was some falling out between
<br /> the developer and landowner, or like within the Aman Resort, you know, entities, such that they
<br /> had to kind of like go back again, try to figure out like, well, what are we going to do? So
<br /> financing is not necessarily just going to the bank and trying to get the necessary loan; it's like
<br /> trying to find your market. And at that point in time in 2014, 2015, that market was the high-end
<br /> southeast Asian market who wanted to purchase like a single-family residential lot in a so-called
<br /> like in a resort environment. That fell through. And now, you know, you have the COVID
<br /> situation. If you're going to do a conventional type of multiple-family residential project as, as
<br /> the property is properly zoned, you're still going be constrained by all of the environmental
<br /> cultural constraints, the other conditions of approval, including your water. And so, you know,
<br /> getting back again to the water, they do have 60 water commitments, and they know that based
<br /> on discussions with the Water Department, on an average if you have a single-family residence,
<br /> that the usual consumption is two water meter. And that's the reason why the number of units
<br /> was kind of like scaled back from just going gang-busting to 60 back to 29. I understand your
<br /> concern, but I think that if you're a developer, you're looking not only financing but you're
<br /> looking for someone that has the capacity, you're looking for a market; it does take time. And
<br /> now with the COVID-19 pandemic situation, it becomes a little bit more precarious, and as a
<br /> result, I had to add that caveat in the beginning.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Right, you know, so as you mentioned, you know, I am super familiar with this
<br /> project having worked on the approvals of it with State Historic Preservation Division, you
<br /> know, the five separate mitigation document approvals that took place between 2012 and 2014,
<br /> and then, you know, as a resident of the area, after the completion of it, driving by it every day
<br /> and thinking, "Wow, we were in a big rush to, to complete all these mitigation requirements, but
<br /> nothing's happened for the last six years." So, I think we take that excuse off the table, that the
<br /> preservation planning wasn't done in time, because it was; it was done in 2014, giving adequate
<br /> time. And then, you know, we look at the funding issue and, you know, when we're reviewing
<br /> these things we see a lot of them now where zoning's expired, you know, and it's continued onto
<br /> this kind of pattern of maintaining zoning, bumping it along, until we find somebody who's
<br /> actually able to do something with it. And, I mean, to me, you know, these kind of
<br /> project-related zoning changes where you've got an SMA tied to the zoning, these are kind of
<br /> project-specific things, and if we're going to just kind of keep kicking it down the road until
<br /> someone's able to finally pick up the ball and do something, then I think that's kind of contrary
<br /> to the intention of our role.
<br /> FUKE: Well, if I may just add to that, you know, this is a situation where it's not as though like
<br /> other applicants, for example, who request for time extension that the world stood still in terms
<br /> of like whether complying or not complying with any of those conditions. If you look at what
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