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it's Hawaii County, whether it's Oahu County, Kauai, or Maui. It's always a balance between
<br /> trying to get people who own properties to comply versus also being able to help them to be able
<br /> to achieve the dream that they had.
<br /> So, the last thing that I just wanted to talk about—and then we are more than delighted to be able
<br /> to take whatever questions that you have, unless Mr. Winnie has something to say as well—is
<br /> this, is that, certainly, I was listening just like you folk did, I got a chance to be able to read the
<br /> testimony and to hear and to be here this whole morning with you folks, thinking about and
<br /> listening to what the different neighbors have said, and I think what I would share with everyone
<br /> here that sure it seems like there is a very profound disconnect in terms of what people think is
<br /> happening up there at Puakea Ranch. So on one hand either Christie Cash is a developer holding
<br /> drunken hot tub brawls up there at the Ranch with rock music that's going on past 1:00 a.m.,
<br /> accumulating a half-million dollars in fines from the county, and basically just causing havoc in
<br /> everything that she does. And, you know, I actually was more prepared to simply just talk about
<br /> the conditions and hope that we could move into there, but that pilikia was just very upsetting to
<br /> listen to, frankly, because so much of it was inaccurate, but also because it just sounded like
<br /> people who are using this area as retirement community to create gentleman ranches that I'm not
<br /> sure is really the ultimate policy of what Hawaii County wants, or any of the county in the state
<br /> quite frankly, but it's also people who were essentially saying the exact same kind of picture of a
<br /> neighbor that they said in their testimony to the Pasadena community association or to the Menlo
<br /> Park community association at their other properties when they didn't like what their neighbors
<br /> were doing. And, frankly, what we would urge the Commission to do instead is to listen to the
<br /> different residents who have been there, who have seen that, to understand that there is a
<br /> different Christie Cash that we are talking about; it's someone who has really made this a dream
<br /> and a labor of love to be ablet to restore something that was an existing guest ranch for hundreds
<br /> of yearsI'm sorry, not hundreds but for more than a hundred years, and it has been around
<br /> long, long before any of the mega mansions that have been built up in that area. And this is a
<br /> great opportunity to be able to move forward, to be able to, not only to be able to get the permit,
<br /> if that is something that the Commission is willing to grant, but also a chance to be able to bring
<br /> everything in compliance, to be able to resolve these complaints.
<br /> I want to tell you it's been an honor to be able to represent Ms. Cash, to be able to visit her
<br /> beautiful, gorgeous property to see the amount of care and love that she has put into this, and to
<br /> be committed to you that, you know, I'm here to see you through; we are going to, we are going
<br /> to get her, you know, if, assuming this step is allowed to go forward, then we are going to be able
<br /> to get all of those other things resolved, and I'm committed to you to being able to help Ms. Cash
<br /> to be able to get there.
<br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you very much, Mr. Chin. Mr. Winnie, did you have something to say,
<br /> and then we'll go into questions after that?
<br /> WINNIE: - - -
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<br /> - -CARR SMITH: Could you unmute yourself, please, Keith?
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