2020-10-15 Leeward Exh D (SPP 20-000219)

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WINNIE: Hi, there we go, okay. My name is Keith Winnie. I'm an architect in the State of Hawaii, and I've been here for quite a while, and I got licensed in '99, so I've been around a little bit. And when I was asked to look at this property about a year ago, I noticed immediately that the property was an older property. I didn't realize how old it was. But I did some research, and there has been a lot of misinformation about this property. Originally, when I looked at the notice of violation, I was surprised to see that there were no permits at all stated in the NOV. And so, having been around a little bit, I realized that the property had been subdivided previously, and re-subdivided, and then consolidated—(clearing throat) excuse me—and, which generated several TMKs for the property. So every time you make change to the property boundaries, a new TMK gets issued. So I went back and verified that with the Planning Department. They told me at the Kona office that, yes, the property had been subdivided and re-subdivided and consolidated. So after looking at it and asking for a written verification that what permits were issued on the property, I've got, I got nothing official back from the Building Department or the Planning Department. And so then I went over to the records over in Property, Real Property, and looked,pulled the records from there, and I was able to come up with a couple dozen permits and various other things that show the property had been built. Some of the earliest permits were back in the 1900's, so, which really surprised me because I didn't think the records went back that far. But, with that being said, I was kind of surprised that the NOV showed no permits. I don't know why that was, except that in the current TMK only shows up in the computer, and the older TMKs don't until you dig around and actually find them. I think that's problematic for this particular property since when you go back and look at the records, it shows that the—and I submitted the records to the county through the Building Department. I submitted the records to the county with some building permits I applied for, so there should be some record of that. And so that could help alleviate some of these problems with the NOV. And also, the NOV showed a bunch of violations. I can't really pinpoint what they were. There were probably 80 pages to the NOV, and most of it was pictures, other than five pages of verbiage. And basically, what the NOV said there was no permits on property, which I found to be false because there were a lot of permits on the property. Going back and looking at the old records that were submittedI don't know whether the, whether you guys have or not, what I submitted, which is probably a different procedure than this procedure, because I was only hired to correct some of the building issues but when I went back to look at the building issues, I was later told by the owner that I'm on the historic registry, which kind of eliminates the county from requiring new requirements and new updates to be included in new permits, and only stuff that's a violation of life-safety issues, like electric or, you know, bad electric or something. But there are a number of electrical permits on the property, there are also several other plumbing permits, so that should be taken into account when you hear people say there is no permits on the property. That's what I have to say about this property. CARR SMITH: Thank you. Director Yee, did you want to respond to any of his comments? Or no? (No audible response) I was just surprised by some of the—okay, very good, thank you. Faye, go ahead, if you'd like to ask question - - - YATES: - -YATES: - - -not so much question; I was, I just want a clarification. My reason for the question about the fines was because I did not want to get to the point that whether we approve or 16 EXHIBIT D