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significant enough to where someone in that chain hopefully says, whoa, let’s take another look <br />at this and go back and assess it in a much deeper manner other than a straight line fold without <br />blinders and see what the picture is really like, what the benefit or loss is of having a reduction <br />or a loss; step down and let some of the sheep numbers come back or what are you gonna do <br />to restore the forest to the way it was because one of the things that came out in a study by the <br />Smithsonian Institute – the two authors were Olson and James – showed that there used to be <br />flightless birds with mandibles – this is through skeletons that they found – that grazed just like <br />goats and sheep. If you take the goats and sheep that are up there now – you’ve got the next <br />California/Oregon fire ready to happen and that’s stated in the letter also – that that would be <br />why – what else are you gonna do to keep that forest alive and it’s dying right now. We all know <br />that. <br /> <br />NP: Exactly. <br /> <br />SH: So that’s what I’d like to impart to this body. To go forward more boldly with your letter, <br />documentation and proof. <br /> <br />NP: Thank you that’s really some good points. <br /> <br />SH: Anybody have any questions? <br /> <br />NP: Or any other comments? <br /> <br />SH: OK. Thank you. <br /> <br />PRESENTATION <br /> <br />Terrence Noda, member of the Hawai’i Island Na Ala Hele Advisory Council, active <br />hunter, and ATV Instructor – will lead discussion on hunter trails and access, and <br />would like to hear the concerns from the public on the matter. <br /> <br />NP: Thank you very much. Any other comments from the public? All right, so we can move <br />on to our presentation. This is Terrance Noda – a member of the Hawai’i Island Na <br />Ala Hele Advisory Council, active hunter and AGB instructor. He will lead us into <br />discussion on hunter trails and access. Many hunters and fishermen are <br />concerned about access, access preservation and maintenance. I would like to <br />know if there’s a fair amount of attention being given to hunter and fishermen <br />access - what the hunters \[unclear\] to fight for their access when there’s <br />unexplainable closures, anyway, Terrance is an expert on many levels and he’s <br />here on his own account and so I would just give you the floor. <br /> <br />JK: \[Unclear\] <br /> <br />NP: That would be good, thank you, Joe… <br /> <br />TN: OK. As far as access, a lot of time people have a misconception that when you <br />ask for access or you’re requesting access into an area the complication <br />becomes that of the regulating body to find you access – but often times that’s <br />not the case. So we’re kind of the advisory council there listen to the public and <br />3 <br /> <br /> <br />