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Hurt’s testimony and Tom Lodge was instrumental in getting some of the recent <br />\[unclear\]. <br /> <br />NP: That leads to another one of my questions that maybe Steve Hurts might have <br />more to say on that palila trail that’s going in so part of the question for hunters is <br />then, OK, well, they’re making this fancy trail for hikers but what about the access <br />for hunters are one, for example, improvements on accesses for hunters, um, is <br />there a fair balance in that – improving access not only for hikers but also for <br />hunters. <br /> <br />TN: Yeah, well, again – can’t fix anything that we don’t know is broken so… <br /> <br />NP: Yeah. So the hunters there too would have to maybe come – request to come to <br />a Na Ala Hele meeting and they would say, hey, what about our one – it’s very <br />hard to traverse and then they could just draw attention to it – that would be the <br />best thing? <br /> <br />TN: They could do that or they could, yes, get ahold of one of the council members <br />and as you know – the council members would then – like here – air the <br />concerns… <br /> <br />NP: Well, yeah, I have gotten comments from hunters, that, yeah, up to the Palila <br />Trail the road’s really nice – after that it’s just – it gets bad after that and so I <br />have had complaints about that but OK. Well, thank you. Anybody else have any <br />comments or questions or? <br /> <br />AA: Yeah, Abraham – District 5. <br /> <br />NP: OK. Abraham go ahead. <br /> <br />AA: Yeah, just, um, where and how often do you guys have your guys’ meetings and <br />how can we find out about your guys’ meetings? <br /> <br />TN: The meetings are posted on the state site – I can get Nani that information. <br /> <br />NP: Can we get on an email list? <br /> <br />TN: Um, you can also contact the program manager at the local office here at DLNR. <br /> <br />AA: So my question – I can barely hear you guys – I going try unmute for a little <br />while… <br /> <br />NP: What did you say, Abraham, you can’t hardly hear us?- <br /> <br />AA: My question and I could barely hear you guys – it was all static… <br /> <br />7 <br /> <br /> <br />