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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting
<br />Minutes – October 24, 2016
<br />WJ: ....the same thing.
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<br />PC: That’s part of the reason why we’re doing this, ah, programmatic EIS is
<br />because there were...
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<br />WJ: Cause we never learned from the first...
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<br />PC: ....because there weren’t, you know, there weren’t things in place, ah,
<br />before to, to say, hey, you know, we shouldn’t be using these things in this
<br />way, ah, but, I mean, of course, there’s also the EPA, you know, labels
<br />that people should be, you know, following, and that’s, you know, that’s an
<br />additional layer on top of these...
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<br />WJ: Right, so who’s to regulate these land managers so that they’re, I mean,
<br />you know, we can have this great document and all it is – all this
<br />document is saying is, yeah, you can do it. Yeah, you can use it.
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<br />EC: No. Actually, I think you’re incorrect in that statement. Um, you know, I
<br />think the key thing when I look at it – cause I recall that same incident that
<br />– in, in, on a personal level it’s caused me a great deal of concern and
<br />frustration and, um, I think the key thing I look at is we have to be able to
<br />do things safer and better and be able to make the right decisions and I
<br />think one key thing is to make sure that managers know all the pros and
<br />cons of what they’re doing and they should be doing the regulatory paper
<br />work – if they’re not – that’s, that’s a key problem. If managers aren’t
<br />doing that type of thing that’s incorrect. The other thing is they need to be
<br />doing it by the label and if they’re not – that’s where the pesticide branch
<br />of the Department of Ag should be going out and doing investigations. You
<br />know, people have to do things by the law.
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<br />WJ: All right...
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<br />TL: Can I – can I go back to Teresa’s comment to you for a second. Um, I’m
<br />not sure if I can paraphrase it quite as properly as she did, but, she’s
<br />saying – and in my case here, ah, we’ve seen it and a lot of the situations
<br />that are going on – people will give you input, you know, you have 7,000
<br />right now, um, I’m not sure how many of them were – are for rodenticide in
<br />the forest – I suggest probably not too many, but, um, cause there’s two
<br />things about risk, you know, you have the risk that you study and we have
<br />questions for you about that, ah, this evening as we move on but, and
<br />then you have the perceived risk of the public and the public doesn’t, I
<br />mean, those that I run into – I don’t know anybody here that says, yeah, I
<br />think rodenticide is a good idea. I have not run across that person yet, um,
<br />so, you know, you have this pretty much – in my experience –
<br />overwhelming, ah, ah, public comment of don’t do it, you know, it’s just not
<br />something that we want here, but people move ahead anyway – we’ve
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