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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting
<br />Minutes – October 24, 2016
<br />had areas where hunters have made comments about expanding fenced
<br />areas, for example, and 2,000 signatures, um, that were submitted and,
<br />ah, until today and I forget when, ah, Ms. Case was here, but from the
<br />time that Ms. Case was here and Scott Fretz was here \[tape gap\] get back
<br />to us – where they had addressed all of these concerns and they have not
<br />been addressed but the project moved forward and I think that that’s
<br />probably one of the things that Teresa is trying to bring forward to you
<br />here.
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<br />EC: Just to confirm – because I think it’s – I think, you know, the key thing is
<br />that’s – your key concern that you’re expressing is that there – that the
<br />feeling of not being heard and that there’s not dialogue and you and I
<br />talked on the phone about that, um, and I think that that’s something that,
<br />you know, I think it’s important for me to hear, ah, and folks to hear and,
<br />um, and, you know, the key thing for me to do is to, to try – on a personal
<br />level is to do greater dialogue with you folks.
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<br />TL: Well, one of the things you said earlier or maybe Patrick Chee said it, but,
<br />if we’re gonna complain about something – come forth with a solution –
<br />you know, what would we do...
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<br />EC: Um-hum...
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<br />TL: And I think that’s a very valid – from our side - not just, you know, don’t do
<br />it – you know, Nani likes this Nature’s Trap thing which – I didn’t mean to
<br />cut you off so why don’t you go ahead...
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<br />PC: If you want me to get back to the – your question about Good Nature
<br />Traps, um, Good Nature – well it’s actually a multi-kill device and you
<br />mount it up on a vertical surface and the rodent enters from the bottom
<br />and once they get to a certain point it triggers the trap or the device and it
<br />instantly kills them by putting a volt through the head of the animal and
<br />then they drop out. And then it resets itself and it can do this for 24 times
<br />and without anyone interacting with it and, um, a lot of our projects,
<br />actually, because of changes in various rodenticide labels it made it
<br />impossible or very difficult to use rodenticides in certain areas and so they
<br />went towards using this A-24 in those certain areas and they have been,
<br />you know, in many cases just as effective, um, and, ah, sometimes, a lot –
<br />better for, of course, the area and not dealing with the potential for, for, ah,
<br />non-targets in that regard, so, um, some projects the A-24 is something
<br />that, you know, is something that can be used, um, for...
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<br />NP: It seems to me it would be really non-controversial – which would be –
<br />which would save you so much time – laboratory work...
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<br />PC: Right...
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