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Hawaii County Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes —November 16, 2015 <br />and plant range and our survey values, so our take estimates are built <br />both on those plants that are outside of units that we know exist plus those <br />that are modeled to be outside of the units. So that's how the take <br />estimate is built. <br />The benefit, like just putting say our mitigation for one individual species is <br />100 plants. Just throwing 100 plants on the ground and walking away is <br />not success. So the goal is to have mature, reproducing individuals in the <br />field — that is the goal for, if it's 100 plants we need 100 of those in the <br />field so it may take 1,000 plants to get to that level. It may take 2,000 <br />plants to get to that level, For some of the species it's going to be a huge <br />concern. It will be a concerted effort 25 years to get to some of these <br />population levels — there's no doubt about it that some of them are much <br />more challenging than others. <br />Comment period begins November 8, 2015 and ends March 7, 2016. The <br />EA that's associated with the HCP has to go through that process as well <br />(concurrently) and must be final before going to the board, The EA is <br />separate from the HCP. It could take several months. <br />What has to happen on the federal side? <br />SF: One concern was critical habitat. They wanted to address plant recovery — <br />adverse modification to a critical habitat in a way that we did not have <br />written into our HCP and that we were not prepared to write in. <br />The second was that there is critical habitat for listed plants that are not <br />there. Since the plant is not there it was not written as part of our HCP. <br />However, Feds requesting that be taken that into consideration. <br />EA: We have plenty of space for mitigation for those unoccupied habitat — <br />critical habitat — those species that they have issue with, it's just a matter <br />of working that out in terms of agreeing with what the appropriate <br />mitigation would be, but we definitely have ample space in terms of <br />fencing units. <br />0 Who on the federal side actually gives us approval? <br />SF: It is the U.S. Fish & Wildlife regional office. <br />* Are these animals impacting those plants and do they know that for sure? <br />SF: There's also an appendix in the HCP where they did some vegetation <br />studies at Puuwaawaa to document fenced and unfenced individuals and <br />the impacts that the game mammals had on those species. <br />• Once approved, is there some monitoring process. Is that an annual or <br />biennial process? How does that work? <br />