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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br /> Minutes—February 22, 2016 <br /> MA: Yeah, and... <br /> KD: It's like you contradicting —to me it's one contradicting on being one <br /> member— buying into one stuff— but, yet, you know small scale. You <br /> looking at one big profit scale, so what's the difference between Kulana, J <br /> and J and you guys? Well... <br /> JE: Well, you know, the thing about it is, you know, we've got to look at cost <br /> feasibility too, yeah, I mean, if she or a whole bunch of other people call <br /> us up and say, "Oh, you know, we get one two heads and stuff like that." <br /> Eh, we set a schedule. When you can bring 'em, everybody can bring <br /> theirs at a certain location and stuff like that—that makes it feasible. You <br /> see what I mean? But if, if you're gonna go just one or two heads then we <br /> gotta get the butchers and the manager and come out and stuff and start <br /> up everything and then get the air conditioning and all that stuff, well, <br /> that's big bucks —that's a lot of money. <br /> KD: So, so, what does the member have then? The member can go through <br /> the training? <br /> JE: To what training? <br /> KD: To all this slaughter training — it has to be certified butchers... <br /> JE: Well, yeah. <br /> KD: The butchers going get paid for it. <br /> JE: Our butchers get paid. <br /> MA: Yeah. The intent behind this project is it's an economic incentive program <br /> and that's why the USDA and the Department of Ag funded it is because <br /> they see that this is a way to now start incentivizing the retention of <br /> livestock producers on the island, because right now—you look at it—the <br /> only ones that really operate profitably are the very large ranchers and <br /> they're the ones that the processes at Kulana or Hawaii Beef Producers <br /> are tailored to. It's very difficult for those facilities to actually take their <br /> process and do something custom for a smaller producer, but the intent of <br /> the project itself is really to promote people who want to get into livestock <br /> production and become a legitimate ongoing business that they have <br /> lower barriers to entry— not no barriers to entry— cause there's a cost <br /> associated with providing this service and the objective of the department <br /> [sounds like vag] was not to provide it at near zero or zero cost— it's as <br /> realistic a cost profile as possible at the lowest possible point. <br /> 22 <br />