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And also, to the testifier, the word was that the, they weren't active; they weren't, they didn't use <br /> the word, "dissolve." So if you all have questions about whether the, what they were testifying <br /> to, the word was they weren't listed as active at the time, but there was no discussion of the <br /> corporation being dissolved. <br /> VAN PERNIS: At the time - - - <br /> CARR <br /> - -CARR SMITH: - - - clarification. Mike, go ahead. <br /> VITOUSEK: And I believe that the application lists DPM Acquisition dba Diamond Resorts <br /> International. There is plenty of information on the interweb about Diamond Resorts <br /> International being an active developer, so I don't, I'm not a corporate lawyer, I don't know that, <br /> but if they are doing business by Diamond Resorts International covers the - - - LLC that doesn't <br /> have their annual filing completed, I think that should pretty much justify their- - -project, and I <br /> think that we can move forward. <br /> Going back to the completion issue, commencement isI don't want to talk to commencement. <br /> I don't want to have to have the start of commencement be the end. I think we have to figure out <br /> language that everybody is comfortable with, including the developer, saying that the project is <br /> moving forward to a point where we all agree that it will be completed, and whether, if that <br /> language is too vague and if we need to - - -with framing inspection, that is what I think we need <br /> to figure out right now. I don't know, is it possible to poll on who would prefer to have it be <br /> substantial completion and who would rather have it as framing inspection? <br /> CARR SMITH: Yeah, who, okay, so, Commissioners, which of you likes substantial completion <br /> versus, substantial completion versus a specific time frame? I'm kind of like this. <br /> VITOUSEK: Is there a recommendation from our attorney on which would be a better term to <br /> use? <br /> CARR SMITH: Malia? <br /> HALL: Sid, could you please read the last part? Because you basically said that it was <br /> substantial commencement, the last part, substantial commencement with <br /> FUKE: Yeah <br /> CARR SMITH: Go ahead, Sid. <br /> FUKE: Sure, okay. So it would be, "except that if the project is substantially constructed but <br /> not completed, it may be extended by the LPC [Leeward Planning Commission]." The reason <br /> why I kind of like prefer the substantial approachment is that, you know, you already have on the <br /> record, based on today, like how do you, you know, like intuitively define "substantial,"you <br /> know. So if there is any question by, you know, like the commissioners back in, you know, in <br /> 2025, for example, when this comes up for the Planning staff to determine what is substantial or <br /> not, I mean I would go back to the record to see like what was the intent. And I think the basic <br /> 30 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />